젠 실크로드 - Zen Silkroad Global Release Of Arabian/Islamic Race

[nicktop1]

Just want to let you know- pserver scence(which is basically split into international and a turkish speaking scence) is entirely controlled by the 3 big unions.
Means what ever server u develope, how professional you are, how much effort you spent or how much new features you add. Those 3 big unions will decide what ever your server is going big or not. As example they can choose server x(unkown devs) and it will get 3k players over any server(with experience/known devs).
Yes there is still people who play only on orginal servers, but this amount of players is very low compared to pserver scence, or mostly even the same people.
Just to take ur illusion new race etc gonna get you a hugh player count.

[Iris]

The last project I heard of containing development of the Arabian race was Secondary, hope this one becomes a success, good luck!

Iris~

[JuliaRocks]

So, from the screenshot I just saw it looks like you guys copy other models and implement them into your 'brand new, never seen before race'.

Aside from the cartoonish, not so original Pokemon pet model, you made the character (assuming it's a woman since it wears heels) glow red. This not only reminds me of the super-duper edited Turkish servers, but it looks simply awful.

"gais we added a new race xD"
Yeah, sure, do you have any idea what a source code is and how it works? You can't just ''add'' a new race.

All I am saying is and I bet on this one, they copied an already existed race ENTIRELY, renamed everything, copied a set of 1-12 (or whatever) degree and changed the models to one already existing and bad looking.

Skills ? Yeah, again, unless you're some high-trained game developer (which I doubt, otherwise you wouldn't be wasting your time with Silkroad Online) you merely created random, easy-to-add-already-existing custom skills and modified them a little bit so we won't bat an eye.

All sprinkled with some Google Translate Korean words.

Sorry for sounding harsh but you ain't fooling anyone. :/

[젠 가드]

Originally Posted by JuliaRocks

So, from the screenshot I just saw it looks like you guys copy other models and implement them into your 'brand new, never seen before race'.

Aside from the cartoonish, not so original Pokemon pet model, you made the character (assuming it's a woman since it wears heels) glow red. This not only reminds me of the super-duper edited Turkish servers, but it looks simply awful.

"gais we added a new race xD"
Yeah, sure, do you have any idea what a source code is and how it works? You can't just ''add'' a new race.

All I am saying is and I bet on this one, they copied an already existed race ENTIRELY, renamed everything, copied a set of 1-12 (or whatever) degree and changed the models to one already existing and bad looking.

Skills ? Yeah, again, unless you're some high-trained game developer (which I doubt, otherwise you wouldn't be wasting your time with Silkroad Online) you merely created random, easy-to-add-already-existing custom skills and modified them a little bit so we won't bat an eye.

All sprinkled with some Google Translate Korean words.

Sorry for sounding harsh but you ain't fooling anyone. :/

Hello Julia. We are creating our own animations/models from scratch, The screen you have seen was simply us adding a pet in order to show some gratitude for a pokemon lover who gave us a sweet feedpack. Yet adding a new animated pet is just capable enough of showing what we can do. As nobody in the whole scene can do so. Again thanks for your time. i will be honest with you. Whether you believe us or not. We barely care about such negative attitude. Hence we strongly recommend you either you make your stay within this thread productive and providing us with ideas/systems you would like to see. or simply leave.
Thanks for your time.

Originally Posted by Iris ♥ | XENijX

The last project I heard of containing development of the Arabian race was Secondary, hope this one becomes a success, good luck!

Iris~

Hello Iris. We do appreciate it. Please provide us with whatever ideas/tips you have in mind and we definitely will consider them!
Thanks for putting in the time to leave a comment!

[Mudzas]

Originally Posted by 젠 가드

Regarding 3 races. We are currently planing our game-play for a single race launch with a low cap. Other 2 races MAY be launched as the wheel goes, And players get familiar with the new RACE as the CAP rises as well.

As I looked through this thread you are planning to open server with Arabian race at the begging, but after some time and CH and EU? I don't get it why you want to remove something and add it back again instead do some adjustments and add third race together. All silkroad comunity have been waiting this for ages.
I am just afraid that with only Arabian race this server will look like CH only server with some edits and new skill animations. Right now I can't imagine how can you do with one race...
All in all what I have in my mind that it would be cool to have expansion for silkroad without getting rid of existing game features and races. Of course, silkroad gameplay system needs some adjustments and improvements...

However, if you will decide to keep CH&EU race you will definitely need to do some gameplay improvements. I am posting a copy from another thread's I posted couple of times. To save time, I am not going to rewrite it, but you can get an idea what I had in my mind by writing this.

By the way looking forward to see your progress.

Good luck!

Copy from another my post:

 Spoiler

Hm. Finnaly, it's something new in Psro scene, sever with isro-r files. I am actually wondering what do you have. Do you have source files and executables? It actually would be great if you are owning source files, then it means you could do some slight improvements in gameplay...
In my opinion for an successful server you will need to change reward system for various activities, for example reward for kill should get all party instead of a single character, same thing could be implemented for uniques as well, all party members have to be rewarded (attack; buff players)Same thing should be done with dungeons, arenas and so on...
It will force people to play as buffers. Party gameplay in sro should taken in first place instead of solo gameplay.That would make P-seever different from I-Sro or other p-servers. Nowadays, people holding full party of bots and play as attack players, one of the reasosn because there is lack of players who can buff as buffer is useless you can kill anybody with it and you are not rewarded for you surport... For example you can look in any Vsro server with are full of attack chars( 2h; glaver bowers; cleric/wizz...). Those servers has what is called by owners ,, balanced" actually it is nothig balaced on their servers, they main focus was pvp 1vs1,this is wrong because nobody sees the whole picture of party vs party.
What I want to say that you just need slightl additions on gameplay and reward system to be focused on party play not on single player. I think that would do a trick and people would be enjoy to play as deffensive, buffer player. This one of couple suggestions I have in my mind. It actually depends what your team are capable to do?

All in all, I have been a fan of silkroad since my childhood. It doesn't require a lot of changes, but it needs just some creative improvments. That joymax never did.

[젠 가드]

Originally Posted by nicktop1

Just want to let you know- pserver scence(which is basically split into international and a turkish speaking scence) is entirely controlled by the 3 big unions.
Means what ever server u develope, how professional you are, how much effort you spent or how much new features you add. Those 3 big unions will decide what ever your server is going big or not. As example they can choose server x(unkown devs) and it will get 3k players over any server(with experience/known devs).
Yes there is still people who play only on orginal servers, but this amount of players is very low compared to pserver scence, or mostly even the same people.
Just to take ur illusion new race etc gonna get you a hugh player count.

Hello nicktop1. Players count is NOT our top priority. As we are NOT going after any profit. In-fact Zen will start on completely free.
As a group of experienced developers/animators "Which is our in real life jobs" we have a little company of ours. We are just seeking perfection within the potential we have. Acquiring sources and tools is just about 30% of what it takes in order to provide a perfect server/game. It's always about skills and experience. And we are completely comfortable with our own-selves!
Thanks definitely for your comment. If you have any tips that can help us through this process please kindly leave it below!

Originally Posted by Mudzas

As I looked through this thread you are planning to open server with Arabian race at the begging, but after some time and CH and EU? I don't get it why you want to remove something and add it back again instead do some adjustments and add third race together. All silkroad comunity have been waiting this for ages.
I am just afraid that with only Arabian race this server will look like CH only server with some edits and new skill animations. Right now I can't imagine how can you do with one race...
All in all what I have in my mind that it would be cool to have expansion for silkroad without getting rid of existing game features and races. Of course, silkroad gameplay system needs some adjustments and improvements...

However, if you will decide to keep CH&EU race you will definitely need to do some gameplay improvements. I am posting a copy from another thread's I posted couple of times. To save time, I am not going to rewrite it, but you can get an idea what I had in my mind by writing this.

By the way looking forward to see your progress.

Good luck!

Copy from another my post:

 Spoiler

Hm. Finnaly, it's something new in Psro scene, sever with isro-r files. I am actually wondering what do you have. Do you have source files and executables? It actually would be great if you are owning source files, then it means you could do some slight improvements in gameplay...
In my opinion for an successful server you will need to change reward system for various activities, for example reward for kill should get all party instead of a single character, same thing could be implemented for uniques as well, all party members have to be rewarded (attack; buff players)Same thing should be done with dungeons, arenas and so on...
It will force people to play as buffers. Party gameplay in sro should taken in first place instead of solo gameplay.That would make P-seever different from I-Sro or other p-servers. Nowadays, people holding full party of bots and play as attack players, one of the reasosn because there is lack of players who can buff as buffer is useless you can kill anybody with it and you are not rewarded for you surport... For example you can look in any Vsro server with are full of attack chars( 2h; glaver bowers; cleric/wizz...). Those servers has what is called by owners ,, balanced" actually it is nothig balaced on their servers, they main focus was pvp 1vs1,this is wrong because nobody sees the whole picture of party vs party.
What I want to say that you just need slightl additions on gameplay and reward system to be focused on party play not on single player. I think that would do a trick and people would be enjoy to play as deffensive, buffer player. This one of couple suggestions I have in my mind. It actually depends what your team are capable to do?

All in all, I have been a fan of silkroad since my childhood. It doesn't require a lot of changes, but it needs just some creative improvments. That joymax never did.

Hello Mudzas. The one and only reason we are starting off with 1 race is simply because we will NOT be having a beta stage. Our beta is going to be a closed beta. With people we do know who have the experience to test a new game/server in general. Not silkroad in-particular. Hence our cap is going to be 60. Then after reaching this cap, There will be expansions regarding races/maps.
Please leave your comments and tips below we will consider them all!

[rares495]

That's an interesting phrase right there! Good job! Oh, wait, that actually seems familiar...

[젠 가드]

Originally Posted by rares495

That's an interesting phrase right there! Good job! Oh, wait, that actually seems familiar...

Hello Rares495. i was trying to find a possibly nicer way to answer you back, However your comment was merely naive hence you left me only with this '?' as an answer. As for now. No offense is intended neither will ever be. We strongly do recommend you to make your stay within this thread as productive as you could ever be and assist us with ideas for whatever you would like to encounter. Models/mobs/animations/effects/gameplay modes.
-Projekt zen.

[OutlawNL]

I mean if you guys are only 3 and you claim to make everything from scratch (which i doubt) but anyway. By the time you guys are completely finished and have no bugs anymore so you can open... There is no way this game still has more than 50 players left.

Also you said you don't do it for profit / just for the experience bla bla. You have your own company etc etc. So a private server -> illegal -> ****** game like sro -> How can this 'experience' be good for your company when you can't openly show your achievements in real life due to it being illegal. And why not bother with another game instead? If it's all for the 'experience' anyway.

Just makes it look like a money grab even more, this whole professional side of this thread looks like an act to me :/

[EdwardTeach+-]

why a lot of hate, bastards?

[B1Q]

Originally Posted by OutlawNL

I mean if you guys are only 3 and you claim to make everything from scratch (which i doubt) but anyway. By the time you guys are completely finished and have no bugs anymore so you can open... There is no way this game still has more than 50 players left.

Also you said you don't do it for profit / just for the experience bla bla. You have your own company etc etc. So a private server -> illegal -> ****** game like sro -> How can this 'experience' be good for your company when you can't openly show your achievements in real life due to it being illegal. And why not bother with another game instead? If it's all for the 'experience' anyway.

Just makes it look like a money grab even more, this whole professional side of this thread looks like an act to me :/

the best comment on this topic so far.

[젠 가드]

Originally Posted by OutlawNL

I mean if you guys are only 3 and you claim to make everything from scratch (which i doubt) but anyway. By the time you guys are completely finished and have no bugs anymore so you can open... There is no way this game still has more than 50 players left.

Also you said you don't do it for profit / just for the experience bla bla. You have your own company etc etc. So a private server -> illegal -> shitty game like sro -> How can this 'experience' be good for your company when you can't openly show your achievements in real life due to it being illegal. And why not bother with another game instead? If it's all for the 'experience' anyway.

Just makes it look like a money grab even more, this whole professional side of this thread looks like an act to me :/

Hello OutlawNL, Thanks for putting in the time to leave us a remarkable reply which definitely did shine out couple of things we had to clarify through-out the beginning of the thread.
First thing first, We are NOT 3 guys doing these. Moving on of this extremely important point to another one as important, Yes, We are creating everything from scratch. However everything related to the topic. We are not messing with the Game-Engine, Graphics, libraries, So on and so forth. We are creating the Third race from scartch. As in Models/Animations/Skeletons/skill effects.
More and over. Pets/Mobs/Towns and last but not least game modes.
Further on, I would like to as well emphasize that our intention does never involve profit nor gaining experience. We are experienced enough in our own field ( developers/animators/modelers/scripters).
Thanks for your effort and time once more. We are definitely looking forward into hearing more from you about what you would like to see in silkroad.

[OutlawNL]

If your drive isn't experience nor profit. Why do you bother with silkroad? As you previously started you are not known in the scene. And as you also previously stated you guys want suggestions from the community, which means you have no clue what people DO want. So 1. You don't do it for the experience, because you can already do it all(So to speak) 2. No need for profit. 3. You are not familiar with this community, thus you don't do it for them.

Why not another game instead?

[Ɗoc]

Originally Posted by Rebekka1337

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Lmao pretty nice to see a server owner trying to flame an upcoming server.
especially those server owners who just shut down the server without a notice while it has players in it. Be nice or get the *** out.

On Topic :- Good luck guys with your project i hope it will have something special. *Fingers crossed*

[PortalDark]

Disclaimer

I have been told that you guys are relating PainKiller on this project. Painkiller has NOTHING to do with this, he quitted Epvpers some time ago and for some reason you guys assume that he has something to do with this