eSRO Update 28th November

[Eckoro]

Originally Posted by Boat

a decent coder would not start thinking what language to use

a good coder would of course use c++

also a good coder knows reverse engineering aka cracking which makes him the encryption part extremly easy

uhm and what youve done with the emulator? some really small changes that i cant even list and you say a decent coder cant do that in a week? *lol*

there is a lot that we do not show on the blog, a few pictures and you think you can make some judgements about our source code that you have not seen, that is just silly.

A good coder would not always use C++ they would choose what would be most suitable for their basis. I do not understand why people always think C++ is the most l33t. Each programming language has its own intended purpose.



you really think an experienced coder could implement all these error checks in a week? Also encryption was just one of my examples of the amount that needs to be understood and the levels of parsing required, more so than the coding.

[WorldDj]

Originally Posted by attix12

smiley again lol

OT: well you guys can stop arguing lol. in my opinion , a good coder is the person who codes all of the languages very well, so no point in saying, a good coder knows that he shud code in blah blah blah.... etc..

A good coder who can Code in 3 languages (very enough)...Even 1 language like C# or C++(Gaming usage) can be enough,every language has its usage, i know a friend have been coding with C++ for over 7 years now (This is a good coder), all languages are just...way to hard... x_x, so basically he will not give each language a proper time.(My opinion tho).
Anyway let's get back to topic .

[dracek]

Originally Posted by Boat

i am pretty sure its like that with lyzerks emulator too and from it comes that any decent coder (under that i mean who knows 15+ languages) could done the work in 1week that esro team has done in 1year

Lets just pretend there would experienced programmer, with proper knowledge. Lets assume he would code server itself in a week.

However, this programmer would have to know what he is working with. You might argue, but fact is that no-one knows how things work exactly.

It takes about hour to write simple GateServer emulation, once you know communication protocol (packets used). However, it takes much longer to understand this communication.
Yes, in case of GateServer, it is simple - there is about 15 different packets at all, altogether with UpdateServer. And yes, these packets are known, they are not changed that often.

Examining GameServer protocol is different thing. Unless you are genius and are able to reverse and understand whole Silkroad client, you have to choose this stupid and slow method - catching packets, analyzing them, testing what each byte means. This is reason why ESRO project takes so long. This is reason why it takes so long to other teams.

Yes, if projects had more people with fair understanding of problematic, more people who are able to analyze data sent/received, more people who can use their brain and think, think how things work, we would be much closer to actual working emulator.

For your information, productive ESRO team, as it is, is composed of 2 people at this moment. Rafa as programmer, Eckoro as packet analyst.
There are other developers who work on some occasions, usually doing some ground work and not directly emulator related analysis.

Whatever, it might have taken year to ESRO to get to this point.
Silkroad is online since 2004 or so and no-one got this far. My question is: Why?

[karixpriva]

im tired @ esro dramas..

quit sro like 1 year ago and suddenly i visit sro section and what i found, the drama still going..

ill come around next year to see if there is a server or more drama..

have fun

[2F@st]

ooo another spam clean lol!

[Davincibg]

Originally Posted by attix12

smiley again lol

OT: well you guys can stop arguing lol. in my opinion , a good coder is the person who codes all of the languages very well, so no point in saying, a good coder knows that he shud code in blah blah blah.... etc..

A good coder will never have to use more than one language...

[Windrius]

Originally Posted by attix12

ooo another spam clean lol!

that means only 3 more steps until a mod gets ****** off and closes the thread.

Anyway just close this ****. There is no need for discussion about private servers in development. It's just flame and nothing more. Now half of this topic IS OFF-TOPIC! It was just about an esro update with some screens. Now it's a flame war about programming n ****. People srsly, if you don't have anything better to do.. Go suck a rock.

[Davincibg]

Mhm I <3 rocks

[silkbotter]

Originally Posted by Boat

please stop telling me that it is hard to code pserver ive had the full source code of isro 70cap files which ecsro used for years and sjsro still uses..
and i can easily tell you that the whole structure of the code was extremly optimized by that i mean it was really easy to work with...

you had?
oh..right..and you didn't want to host a server or write a really awesome bot for ecsro,mysro,sjsro because?? ahh,,yeah.. you didn't want to earn those 5000 $ per month.. i get ya..
i would run away as well if i had the chance to earn that ammount of money.

[Davincibg]

@Boat
1. Even an idiot would think of that the server files are higly optimized and easy to work with.
2. You had the source - hmmm

[Windrius]

Originally Posted by Boat

sir ive coded far bigger things then pserver..

such as a full new os which i named Oronom and a full new Anti malware detection system which is scanning even for ring0 mode based viruses with help of malware bytes anti malware team

if you do not belive me email them and ask who helped them making new rat removing system

Really? Can I get a free copy of your OS and that malware detection system? PLZ!?!? my norton trial will end soon xD

Originally Posted by Boat

please stop telling me that it is hard to code pserver ive had the full source code of isro 70cap files which ecsro used for years and sjsro still uses..

and i can easily tell you that the whole structure of the code was extremly optimized by that i mean it was really easy to work with...

1. source? LOLOMFGTHISISSUPAFUAKINAWESOME!111
2. LOL iSRO???
3. ecsro and sjsro use it?? LOL!!!!!!!1111111111oneoneone

Don't you mean

1. Compiled files that MHTC leaked?
2. CSRO?
3. still use?

Originally Posted by Boat

i am pretty sure its like that with lyzerks emulator too and from it comes that any decent coder (under that i mean who knows 15+ languages) could done the work in 1week that esro team has done in 1year

basically thats why i think this server is a fail or lets just say it like.. the esro team is full of newb "coders" without knoweldge

lol?????!?!?!??#@??#?@!@!!! lyzerks emulator was shit (the one he released)

And well I think dracek and rafa both know what they are doing. :/ dracek can play with maps, and rafa can code? maybe? w.e... You get my point right?

Originally Posted by Boat

me and my korean friend ren has made a ksro bot long time ago

i remember that was the time when ksro banned foreign ip's because many foreigners were using that bot that we (About 200 peoples had it)

it was a private bot that we sold for $20/month

but since this will be a pserver you are right i doubt anyone will matter making a bot for it

blah?

[Eckoro]

btw who actually is Boat?

[amandil]

Let the flaming and spam begin!

#Reported

[Dropdead*]

Originally Posted by Eckoro

btw who actually is Boat?

Just a random ****** who aint knows a ****. He is just talking.

[Davincibg]

Originally Posted by Eckoro

btw who actually is Boat?

YOU DON'T KNOW HIM - LEAVE YOUR REAL LIFE AND ENTER THE MATRIX NOW!!!