Look what i read on srf

lordjaggi · 04/28/2008, 01:23

Greetings SRF:

SRO is the game that brought us all together. In the beginning, when it was still fresh and new, it was full of potential and open to anything. The climate of the game today is less friendly. Bots run rampant; they stand in towns and shout about gold-selling sites; they clog the servers, preventing people who wish to play the game by hand from getting in; they become powerful in much less time. Joymax has done very little to solve the game's problems; there is little to no customer support.

"But wait!", you say. "Someone is releasing an SRO Private Server! Halleluja, the answer to our prayers! It will be moderated! It will have customer service! It will dispense with the grind! It will fix what is wrong with the game!"

Will it do these things? Sure. But what else does it do? This private server is owned and operated by a known gold- and bot-selling company. In fact, they are even allowing their bot to be used on their private server without repercussions. Those who are looking to play on the private server to escape the bot problem are walking into a disappointment. Perhaps it's more that many who are looking to play on the private server wish to do so because they will be able to bot there and have it be ok? A sad perspective, but completely possible.

"But is it legal?" The legality or illegality of the server itself - meaning the files it uses, whether they breach copyrights, etc. - is not something that we here at SRF posess the body of knowdge to adequately debate. But the facts are clear here: this server is selling Silk. They have the potential to make a profit from Joymax's work. Buying this silk is directly supporting a company which also sells gold and bots. A company which, I might add, is also distributing bots and multi-client software for its own private server!

"Ok, but why haven't you outlawed PK2 editing? THAT'S against JM's ToS too!" 90% or more of PK2 edits are client-side only and do not alter the way the game is played and enjoyed for anyone other than the editor. No one else can see their work, it doesn't affect gameplay, and to the knowledge of the SRF staff, no one has ever been banned for it, nor has JM ever come down against it. Private servers, on the other hand, are universally vilified by the companies which created the games. Blizzard is currently in a multi-million dollar lawsuit against the owners of WoW private servers. It has happened over and over again. As soon as someone starts to profit from this - or starts to take profits away from Joymax - it will be shut down. It's only a matter of time.

"So why does SRF care? It's not like Joymax does. Why follow their lead?" Someone has to. As the biggest fan forum on the internet, people come HERE looking for info on SRO first, often long before the official site. We want to create a game environment which is fun for everyone, where there are no cheaters, no imbalance of power due to illegal activities, etc. In essence, we are training new users to be good users through our stance on many issues. SRF cannot and will not support any server run by a company which sells bots and gold. We will not EVER condone a private server which allows you to buy silk which lines the pockets of those who have destroyed the official servers. ...Should you?

If anyone has any questions or comments, PM me or one of the Mod Staff. We will be more than happy to answer them.
-SG

Does he/she think people actually care where/who the private servers come from?

xstaticx90 · 04/28/2008, 01:33

True

~~ms~~ · 04/28/2008, 01:45

It's SRF... they're licking JoyMax' ***.

lordjaggi · 04/28/2008, 02:10

sad thing is that joymax dont care about them lol bots are joymax's friend

-Chernobyl · 04/28/2008, 03:24

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Originally Posted by lordjaggi

Greetings SRF:

"But is it legal?" The legality or illegality of the server itself - meaning the files it uses, whether they breach copyrights, etc. - is not something that we here at SRF posess the body of knowdge to adequately debate. But the facts are clear here: this server is selling Silk. They have the potential to make a profit from Joymax's work. Buying this silk is directly supporting a company which also sells gold and bots. A company which, I might add, is also distributing bots and multi-client software for its own private server!

Copyrights are just some of the legal issues of a private server. Joymax holds licensing agreements in the U.S.A and Europe for it's silk. Silk is a way to help compensate for all their servers. Private servers are not generally set up by companies to steal from another company, but individuals to allow for small groups of people to play. As long as no one is making any money, most companies ignore these private servers.

I don't know if anyone has noticed this yet but the server you connect to with ESCRO is based in the US. 69.64.64.125 is the server address which is tied to a California company that provides low cost servers. I believe the server itself is in Phoenix AZ ( according to a trace I did on it)

Ocean was being pretty smart by doing this. He will make a ton of money before Joymax gets wind of this, shut the server down, and Ocean will walk away clean because they can't prosecute him living in Europe. All the people that bought silk will come to the forums crying about how they were scammed or ripped off. But it's not like they weren't warned....

Ocean is a private individual making money off a game he doesn't have a licensing agreement for when it comes to selling silk.

joker309 · 04/28/2008, 03:25

lol that forum is **** cant stand there whole anti-bot **** such ******* *****'s crying about
how other ppl play idiots....

victorinoloyola · 04/28/2008, 03:52

people turn to private server 'coz they can easily login and play. unlike in Joymax's silkroad their server is always full of bots 24/7. Joymax doesn't care how many bots they have and the "War with the Bots" is just a show. You guys should watch the video "Unending walk of Bots". they are making profits from bots flooding the server. If the server is crowded you can't connect..if you can't connect you will tend to buy Premium just to be able to connect and that i think why they don't care so much with people who wanna play even w/o buying silk. They gain more money from bots. JOYMAX REALLY SUCKS!!!

~~zipfile~~ · 04/28/2008, 10:18

true true

kaliosas · 04/28/2008, 11:35

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Originally Posted by victorinoloyola

people turn to private server 'coz they can easily login and play. unlike in Joymax's silkroad their server is always full of bots 24/7. Joymax doesn't care how many bots they have and the "War with the Bots" is just a show. You guys should watch the video "Unending walk of Bots". they are making profits from bots flooding the server. If the server is crowded you can't connect..if you can't connect you will tend to buy Premium just to be able to connect and that i think why they don't care so much with people who wanna play even w/o buying silk. They gain more money from bots. JOYMAX REALLY SUCKS!!!

traffic isnt the only reason why ppl leave isro and play psro rates is the most important thing... if they would just want to play w/o trafic they would go play csro its rlly nice and chinese ppl are more frienldy then alot europeans and so......

Bezmiegs · 04/28/2008, 11:59

reasons - why ppl are searching psro^s are so **** many ( high rates,easy to connect,fast lvling and so on ........ ) but SRO is game which is not playable if there is lags and DCs or some unexpectable bug so ppl are searching for normaly playable sro.And doesnt matters if there is Chings or Arabians(and dont care are they friendly or not) all what we need is playable game.

kaliosas · 04/28/2008, 12:13

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Originally Posted by Bezmiegs

reasons - why ppl are searching psro^s are so **** many ( high rates,easy to connect,fast lvling and so on ........ ) but SRO is game which is not playable if there is lags and DCs or some unexpectable bug so ppl are searching for normaly playable sro.And doesnt matters if there is Chings or Arabians(and dont care are they friendly or not) all what we need is playable game.

csro is playable 90% servers easy 24/7 not rlly laggy and gm's there are rlly doing theyr job bot is aloved there from lvl 70 if u use it earlier=banned i playd it for a while and havent seen any bugs btw killing unique there pwnz

now chinese bot 24/7 wanna hit 100lvl faster so all low lvl uniques can be killed by us =P but i cant play now so... sux

Liberta · 04/28/2008, 15:11

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Originally Posted by Disconnect

It's SRF... they're licking JoyMax' ***.

hey dude dont talk **** about SRF its the best community on the internet. elitepvpers can never be better than SRF to be honest, elitepvpers is the worse community on the net people here just flame WRITE WITH CAPSLOCK and 98% of the members here is 12 years old kids that have no life. On SRF the members are mature and no one is flaming as much like here.. So stfu and stop talking **** about something you dont know.

strukel · 04/28/2008, 16:27

This is true.. And Yeah the bots destroy the game.. But what if the bots get banned.. That like 25000 people get banned.. and they all bought an average of $150 silk. Then the company will lose 3.75million dollar,, bcoz they will al chargeback. That's why they dont ban bots. Banning al those bots means the end of joymax

Liberta · 04/28/2008, 18:13

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Originally Posted by strukel

This is true.. And Yeah the bots destroy the game.. But what if the bots get banned.. That like 25000 people get banned.. and they all bought an average of $150 silk. Then the company will lose 3.75million dollar,, bcoz they will al chargeback. That's why they dont ban bots. Banning al those bots means the end of joymax

joymax have more than 1 game out there... and i dont give a **** about the regular people botting but the gold bots can just die.. it is them that ruin the game..

hvstler · 04/28/2008, 18:34

Gold companies use paypal aswell why dont you guys (that buy ingame gold) chargeback when you recieved the gold it is not like they can ban you from the game. Only thing they can do is prevent you from ordering more gold.. what to do then move to the next gold company and do the same.

If most people that buy ingame gold do that, those companies will be run outof bussiness