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Originally Posted by minimalis
Hey guys,
I decided to open this topic due to recent events that occured to ZSZC (servers).
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right... refurbishing the topic
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Originally Posted by minimalis
Leaking information might sound fun, but imo it is not. I totally agree with the board admin on his decision of deleting melkorz123's thread. Why? Because it's just stupid to leak financial and database information. melkorz123 wanted to screw with ZSZC staff but he actually harmed the players. All the data he published was about players and their payments (except 1 or 2 things like PG's moneybookers account and I highly doubt that anyone here had the ballz to log on that account.)
Also if you might happen to be able to shut down ZSZC in the future (you won't), the only people you're gonna screw with are the players. Fact.
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screwing up the players, players getting harmed.. in a certain point of view, yes.
but, if primarygaming do have their website, with terms of conditions, it's up to THEM to avoid these kind of things! what would microsoft do if data were leaked? riiight.. they'd fix them! and not just say "you are only harming the players", right?
moneybookers? c'mon! mhtc ewww ecsro EWWWW zszc will never sue anyone because those monopoly fu**s are doing a bunch of illegal stuff!
i'd rather say melkzor exposed them!
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Originally Posted by minimalis
About Shane's DDoS project. Well, I just think its pretty much funny that PG staff plvl-ed him to stop the attack. It prolly would have taken a couple of hours to find out which IP addresses flooded the server and block them. Noone has an infinite number of sl@ves in them b0tnet, so this method would have been successfull, tho it would have taken some time. I guess they were lazy.
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do you know what the first D from DDOS means? DISTRIBUTED
are you sure lazy-ass-chinks will "block" 900 different ip addresses?
HOW will they be able to log the attack? only the provider may do it. not them. also, i must give you the sad answer, that you cannot "block" any ip-address! EVEN IF you would be able (LOLZ0R) to block them, then the DDOS attack would still occur. why you ask? think logic. what is a DDOS attack? denial of service, right. DENIAL OF SERVICE!!! an ip-request which gets blocked because the ip was "blocked" by a very leet person
is a DENIAL OF SERVICE as well
get it?? lolz regarding shane's host of his DDOS shells.. where's the problem? as i said: monopolist zszc aka ecsro aka mhtc aka MONEY SCAMMERS will never sue anybody because they're violating the law as well. just look at them.. do you think they're safe just because they renamed "silk" to "ZSP" ?? think again... why are Chinese copied electronics illegal in Europe? right.. because they were COPIED and RENAMED. same as ZSP. what a piece of BULLS***. that will not save them!
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((I don't understand Shane's move, that he did set up a DoSer site. A site which were running on a hungarian hosting and as far as I know Shane is hungarian. Ergo I think that Shane haven't really cared for his protection.))
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as i said.. zszc won't sue anybody! they're not in the position of suing anyone!
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Originally Posted by minimalis
Anyways, I just can't believe that PrimaryGaming haven't tried to fix this issue on a legal way, because as you know these things are against the law and you can get a pretty bad punishment for it. But who knows? Maybe they did.
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don't worry! they did try fixing it.. but..let me rethink.. ******* is the "only" one behind his web-store for the illegal silkroad private server zszc. he's just an apprentice of informatics. not more... he's not master of security, you know?
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@melkorz123: I hope you were behind some real off-shore chinese VPN and/or a bunch of proxies. Next time you will be planning to h@ck someone/something stay in the background. Cuz that you published most of the stuff prematurely is just ridiculous and unprofessional. You might have been able to accomplish more if you stay in the shadows for a longer time.
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agaaaaaaain:
zszc is NOT in the position of throwing a lawsuit at ANYONE! it may have been unprofessional of his part leaking all those infos. but I'm sure those noobs from zszc simply didn't listen to him! and.. after all, THEY are taking the money, THEY are offering a "secure" service. their terms of conditions: "Details subscribers provide will only be used to load the rewards, Primary Gaming will not use any information or share it with third party's. All user information will be destroyed after one year, so we can always check back on who charges back. " THEIR responsibility to secure their servers!
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Internets is a serious business. You should stay anonymus if you do such things otherwise you will face the conseqences. Also you should focus on your real target and try not to hurt the innocent players.
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and again... NO LAWSUIT FROM PEOPLE WHO DO MORE THEN ILLEGAL SHIT!
- copyright infringements in a lot of stuff: game design, graphics, sounds, texts, names....basically the whole god damn game!
-selling SILKS under another name
-using leaked server-files
-copying all new crap from csro
-running a monopoly (which is illegal in certain countries)
and some more things i forgot.
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Originally Posted by minimalis
I felt like publishing my point of view. Because it pretty much annoys me that it's the players who have to suffer because of some people think these things are fun and that the internets is a playground.
I want to read your opinion about these things:
- Did melkorz123 or Shane accomplish something?
- Who did they harm with their moves?
- Do you think this it the begining of the end of ZSZC?
- What do you think about this whole thing?
Please, I beg you, do not make a flame war out of this thread. Do not troll in here. Because I am interested in the opinion of other members and I don't want this thread to be closed. Thank you.
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i had to write this down as well.
PLEASE DO NOT feel offended with the way i type. i'm also for a flameless thread, even if i may have been a litle bit rude.
in my point of view melkzor simply exposed the stupidity of zszc.
why? he'S a nice guy! like me. he doesn't like to see people getting scammed with their real money!
he leaked those infos cuz nobody wanted to believe him that MHTC=ECSRO=ZSZC! why did nobody believe? because the jerk ******** simply said "we are espanol we no ecsro, we like big tacos with extra burritos" or whatever.. he's still german and still the same jerk who thinks he's the 1337ness because he has a couple of 486's behind him (on the very first leaked picture) with windows nt server 4.0
now, don't come with "it's the players fault they ""DONATED"" (my ass!!) on a private server"
that is absolutely NO excuse to shut a server down, rename yourself and start from 0 just to make an EMPTY database where people have to buy silks again! this is no freaking excuse! no matter what da hell is in their wanna-be-legal-terms-of-conditions!
and i thank melkzor for that! i didn't use any posted data, i simply enjoyed the slap in their faces which they deeply deserve!
This is about business! like MHTC aka ECSRO aka ZSZC are kinda hurting joymax's income, melkzor is doing the same to them!
simple as that!
and don't forget: ZSZC are the jerks who are harming other companies and STEALING some other people's work! and not melkzor.
please no flaming
(i kinda feel sorry IF i did
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@admin,mod,guardian= IF this post was too harsh, please just delete it
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