Warrior and sub?

mackan1110 · 07/31/2009, 11:01

Hey im undering what sub is best for a warrior? cleric, bard or warlock

xxbrentonxx · 07/31/2009, 11:10

There all good and have their pros, but overall warrior cleric comes out on top.

Some will argue that debuffs are extremely good, but training would be very hard without cleric buffs or speed/noise and the debuffs are practically useless on most euros.

ngage · 07/31/2009, 11:14

if you want to use bot bard is better

xxbrentonxx · 07/31/2009, 11:15

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Originally Posted by ngage

if you want to use bot bard is better

Explain?

The speed has its advantages and noise would be incredibly useful. But recovery division and bless are life savers.

chicothefirst · 07/31/2009, 12:23

I have a warrior/cleric, i prefer cleric because it as Recovery Division, bless spell and Holy word..
It helps alot in pvp and party grind.
I like it because we can ress other players

D

mackan1110 · 07/31/2009, 14:08

okey thanks i want to be a pretty fast grinder (bot) but still not get pwned in pvp. Please more ppl write

x_king_x · 07/31/2009, 15:05

Warrior/Cleric then

mackan1110 · 07/31/2009, 18:01

okey but then tell me why cleric?

Fighter91 · 07/31/2009, 18:47

If you need speed you can buy speed pots at the grocery trader. Noise is not very useful for a warrior. Crossbows and dagger need it more when they want to fight with "extreme" damage. So warrior/cleric is best.
Warlock is ****...because most of the people have a cleric or fight with a cleric in pts and then they get holy spell. So its only usefull against chinese if they haven't force skilled.

x_king_x · 07/31/2009, 20:48

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Originally Posted by mackan1110

okey but then tell me why cleric?

ok
because...
1. you have recovery division and bellive me it really makes difference at grinding
2.you have many healing skills that are helpful
3.Lazy to kill? just put your cleric rod and shield on and be buffer of the party
4.Very hard to kill in PvP...i played with many builds
mostly:Wizzard/Cleric&Rouge/Cleric&Nucker S/S
among all of those
Warrior/Cleric was one of the hardest builds to kill

mackan1110 · 07/31/2009, 22:13

okey thx and how is war/cler to bot with? is it good can i kill same lvl mobs let say im 60 can i kill 60 or should i kill low lvls? about 3-5 lvl under me

x_king_x · 07/31/2009, 23:26

well actually i prefer killling mobs like 2~3 lvls lower than me what ever my build is
it doesn't matter to me if the exp comes slow or no
i just don't want my char to keep dying and so
but i think war/cleric can bot at same his lvl mobs
just don't forget that they have to be Physical ones not Magical

mackan1110 · 08/01/2009, 00:15

okey bcouse if they are magical i will get pwned?

x_king_x · 08/01/2009, 02:32

yeah
Badly Pwned
in Physical mobs u will be getting extremely low dmg
so u won't even worry about Giants/Party mobs and so

Electrified0 · 08/01/2009, 08:14

Just so you know, here are a few future fixes (based on vsro/ksro)

- Holy Spell/Word gets changed from 100% chance reduce to 50%
- Inability to cast buffs/res on jobbed/caped characters while jobless/capeless

Those 2 things will make cleric significantly less useful, and for such reasons, warlock will get very good. But for now, warrior/warlock is still nice cuz it can beat most chinese with debuffs, and warrior alone is enough to take on euros (even if they have holy spell 100%, you'd be amazed by advanced reflect, imagine that 1/3 of the attacks that hit you bounce back to the person attacking you at 110% the damage they hit you for as absoluteness damage (goes through snow shield), which basically means that every time a wizard or nuker hits you when you have that buff (which can be used with 2h out) they have a 30% chance of killing themselves. And if you're fighting vs a STR, even better. You already have the return damage passive for physical in 2h, so now 2/3 of attacks bounce back! Advanced Reflect is godly.

So for such reasons, you should be able to beat most chinese and most euros, your only significant problem will be bows that are smart enough to use fire wall and knockback at the right time...other than that you're pretty much set.

However, warrior/cleric is by NO MEANS a bad build, I have one myself (one of each ^_^). Just saying that to all neigh sayers of warlock!

As for where to bot, it depends which weapon and armor you use.

If you train with 1h, as long as they're not a lot higher level than you, you won't die. Just plain won't. If you train with axes at physical mobs, you will also not die as long as they are your level or lower. As 2h tho, gear makes a difference. (PS: Don't train with daredevil! Most people who have problems with dying have that as the cause)

Robes - Just stay at mobs about 4 levels down
Light Armors - Mobs your level if they're physical, or 4 levels down if they are hybrid (avoid pure magic)
Heavies - You can do mobs your level or even higher...just stay away from magic mobs.