.:UnderWorld Shaiya:. Private-Server.

[xsebipuckx]

hi pls brauch hilfe
themawächsel ^^ sry
wollte nur wissen ob es schon nen neuen 4story bypass gibt der auch ma gut funzt
pls liink

[ShittyKitty]

Limicky needs to play PVE they clearly have no consideration for others.

May we suggest Playstation? XBox even? or should you choose your own medium? one that does not require interaction with other humans.

[Limicky]

Originally Posted by ShittyKitty

Limicky needs to play PVE they clearly have no consideration for others.

May we suggest Playstation? XBox even? or should you choose your own medium? one that does not require interaction with other humans.

Aww.. you seem to dislike me boo-hoo . Hmm.. I don't need a gaming device if I want to play with/by myself, I would just need to play in UW

And someone please assist xsebipuckx. Creating a thread for advertisement just to get the points but not assisting/answering players who's interested to play is lame

Happy Shaiya to all!

[Gray17]

Wow, quite a lot of stuff to comment on here. I agree with some areas of Limicky's views, and some areas of others. I have my own, once positive, now negative, views on Safe and Vik, but I'll keep them to myself as I hope any new players to the server will be able to see the truth for themselves. ANGEAL, however, I must comment on.

The issue with the free AP per minute was, by speculation and comments made by the GMs, caused by three hackers, Dargon- Hazzie, and Blitz hacking the server. Why they would remove an aspect of the server that benefited them, I have no idea, if that is actually the case. However, it did not need to take more than a month to get fixed. A private developer, I'll call him "John", had been doing his best to assist the server with any kind of coding or programming necessary, and when the AP had broken, he immediately sat down to try and figure it out. John had successfully created a script that would fix the issue, and sent it into ANGEAL. However, due to John, and many of his close friends and guildies, myself included, knowing many truths about the backwards actions of ANGEAL (more on that later), John had made a comment in public about ANGEAL's "tendencies". He was then banned on all accounts, and the perfect AP fix was lost forever.

Three days ago, Safe had made some error in the server, and it needed to be taken down. Two days ago it came back up, having rolled back more than an entire month. The excuse given was that there was an error with the backup files, and that could be true, but with ANGEAL's general lack of caring, I find it hard to believe that he would have done daily back-ups like he should. If he did, I don't think there's any way more than 30 back-ups could have become corrupted, but I don't know much about server management, so I suppose there could be a way. Many people, myself included, lost a ridiculous amount of hard work. When we decided to voice our opinions in public about how much we had lost, we were met with apathy and bitterness. Vik went as far as to kick us from the server when we made mention of ANGEAL's failure, and then took the server down so we could not return. Perhaps we were doing nothing but "whining and bitching", but for people who had earned so much in that period of time, it was a great blow to us to lose all our work. The thing that bothered us all the most was the fact that it was even ALLOWED to happen, and, from ANGEAL's ever apathetic attitude, the knowledge that it could and most likely would happen all over again. Many of the top players, at least on AoL, quit following these events.

This is a conversation that took place between Vik and a friend of ours on the server. His name has been edited out.
[8:38:07 PM] Viktoria: normaly you know where to find me and pm me
[8:38:11 PM] Viktoria: lame
[8:39:08 PM] Bob: It's only lame cause it's not what you wanted to hear, be honest. No one had any problems with anyone else talking in tc as long as it didn't upset them
[8:39:44 PM] Viktoria: there is nothing particular i wanna hear Bob
[8:40:04 PM] Bob: yes there is, cause you can pick out so easily what you don't wanna hear Lol
[8:41:01 PM] Viktoria: its just funny how you act in different situations
[8:41:08 PM] Viktoria: idc really what you say
[8:41:13 PM] Viktoria: not my fault what happened
[8:41:33 PM] Viktoria: and im the one who is trying to make something out of it so yea
[8:41:41 PM] Viktoria: nothing in TC upset me so far ^^
[8:42:03 PM] Bob: I'm the same no matter what, I'm not the one hiding and talking to ppl n_n
[8:42:13 PM] Viktoria: im not hiding
[8:42:21 PM] Viktoria: im on Chat on the website and on msn
[8:42:48 PM] Bob: It's obvious what the problem is, No one cared enough to avoid a mistake like this.....then you guys get uptight about people who have the right to be upset, like they're the ones that fucked up somehow Lol
[8:43:04 PM] Viktoria: heeh
[8:43:19 PM] Viktoria: you can be upset as much as you want ^^
[8:44:05 PM] Viktoria: go play some Tic Tac Toe ^^
[8:44:48 PM] Bob: Ok, you have a fun time being a bitch while you're at it ^^
[8:45:15 PM] Viktoria: wooot there goes maturity ^^
[8:46:14 PM] Bob: Definetly, just like the maturity shown by closing the server when people were saying what was on there mind........but oh no that definetly shouldn't be allowed.
[8:46:55 PM] Viktoria: it is allowed ppl been doing that the whole time
[8:46:59 PM] Viktoria: no problemwith it at all
[8:47:44 PM] Bob: And if you're not willing to deal with people when you guys fuck up then what's the point?
[8:48:16 PM] Viktoria: there is dealing with it and dealing with iit
[8:48:43 PM] Viktoria: like you see not everybody has a problem with it and we are doing the best we can
[8:49:16 PM] Bob: Most ppl do, idc it's not the gears I lost or the fc'd account Lol....It's the shitty oh well attitude/I don't care about anything approach by angeal
[8:49:48 PM] Viktoria: like i said the FC'ed accs will be FC'ed again
[8:49:58 PM] Bob: It's like thanks for letting me know your server isn't worth the time to play, that if you guys fuck up that's it we just "deal" with it and wait for the next mistake
[8:50:35 PM] Bob: It's like say.....I dropkick you in the face, then say lets be friends about it
[8:50:40 PM] Viktoria: well Bob ty for letting me know your perfect hehe
[8:50:49 PM] Bob: yw vik

As for ANGEAL's "tendencies" I described earlier, he had a fancy for handing out free items to any women that would go on webcam for him. One event, with a 14-year old girl, was supposedly put onto youtube, as far as what Viktoria and Safe themselves told me. TNT, ANGEAL's brother, was handed free items, boosted stats, and many AP items for free. Natalie/TeenageDreams on the server, ANGEAL's primary webcam friend, was given more, ANGEAL going as far as to kill in-game bosses, such as CTI, to give her special items very few on the server had, and also decided to give her the position of GM ([GM]Fireworks). I can understand wanting to help your good friends and family members out with some gear, but after a while there needs to be a limit.

As far as all hackers and dupers and such getting instant IP bans, well, I believe very heavily this isn't the case, as the GMs themselves had made mention about dupers who still play on the server today, and were allowed a free ride due to their status as GS.

I'm sure I'll get quite a lot of hate for this, and very many insults about wasting my time and so on and so forth, but I felt this needed to be said. I myself have moved on from the server, being one of the many who left after the rollback, and all I can do is express the truth and what evidence points to as the truth for any new players looking for a new pserver.

I will say, despite all these issues, that I had a blast on the server itself. My reason for leaving was due to the GMs, not the server.

Take care, and make an informed decision.

[SafeBett]

you guys got no idea how bad we feel when there is an error.

[ShittyKitty]

*Yawn*

[teacup22]

Originally Posted by Gray17

Wow, quite a lot of stuff to comment on here. I agree with some areas of Limicky's views, and some areas of others. I have my own, once positive, now negative, views on Safe and Vik, but I'll keep them to myself as I hope any new players to the server will be able to see the truth for themselves. ANGEAL, however, I must comment on.

The issue with the free AP per minute was, by speculation and comments made by the GMs, caused by three hackers, Dargon- Hazzie, and Blitz hacking the server. Why they would remove an aspect of the server that benefited them, I have no idea, if that is actually the case. However, it did not need to take more than a month to get fixed. A private developer, I'll call him "John", had been doing his best to assist the server with any kind of coding or programming necessary, and when the AP had broken, he immediately sat down to try and figure it out. John had successfully created a script that would fix the issue, and sent it into ANGEAL. However, due to John, and many of his close friends and guildies, myself included, knowing many truths about the backwards actions of ANGEAL (more on that later), John had made a comment in public about ANGEAL's "tendencies". He was then banned on all accounts, and the perfect AP fix was lost forever.

Three days ago, Safe had made some error in the server, and it needed to be taken down. Two days ago it came back up, having rolled back more than an entire month. The excuse given was that there was an error with the backup files, and that could be true, but with ANGEAL's general lack of caring, I find it hard to believe that he would have done daily back-ups like he should. If he did, I don't think there's any way more than 30 back-ups could have become corrupted, but I don't know much about server management, so I suppose there could be a way. Many people, myself included, lost a ridiculous amount of hard work. When we decided to voice our opinions in public about how much we had lost, we were met with apathy and bitterness. Vik went as far as to kick us from the server when we made mention of ANGEAL's failure, and then took the server down so we could not return. Perhaps we were doing nothing but "whining and bitching", but for people who had earned so much in that period of time, it was a great blow to us to lose all our work. The thing that bothered us all the most was the fact that it was even ALLOWED to happen, and, from ANGEAL's ever apathetic attitude, the knowledge that it could and most likely would happen all over again. Many of the top players, at least on AoL, quit following these events.

This is a conversation that took place between Vik and a friend of ours on the server. His name has been edited out.
[8:38:07 PM] Viktoria: normaly you know where to find me and pm me
[8:38:11 PM] Viktoria: lame
[8:39:08 PM] Bob: It's only lame cause it's not what you wanted to hear, be honest. No one had any problems with anyone else talking in tc as long as it didn't upset them
[8:39:44 PM] Viktoria: there is nothing particular i wanna hear Bob
[8:40:04 PM] Bob: yes there is, cause you can pick out so easily what you don't wanna hear Lol
[8:41:01 PM] Viktoria: its just funny how you act in different situations
[8:41:08 PM] Viktoria: idc really what you say
[8:41:13 PM] Viktoria: not my fault what happened
[8:41:33 PM] Viktoria: and im the one who is trying to make something out of it so yea
[8:41:41 PM] Viktoria: nothing in TC upset me so far ^^
[8:42:03 PM] Bob: I'm the same no matter what, I'm not the one hiding and talking to ppl n_n
[8:42:13 PM] Viktoria: im not hiding
[8:42:21 PM] Viktoria: im on Chat on the website and on msn
[8:42:48 PM] Bob: It's obvious what the problem is, No one cared enough to avoid a mistake like this.....then you guys get uptight about people who have the right to be upset, like they're the ones that fucked up somehow Lol
[8:43:04 PM] Viktoria: heeh
[8:43:19 PM] Viktoria: you can be upset as much as you want ^^
[8:44:05 PM] Viktoria: go play some Tic Tac Toe ^^
[8:44:48 PM] Bob: Ok, you have a fun time being a bitch while you're at it ^^
[8:45:15 PM] Viktoria: wooot there goes maturity ^^
[8:46:14 PM] Bob: Definetly, just like the maturity shown by closing the server when people were saying what was on there mind........but oh no that definetly shouldn't be allowed.
[8:46:55 PM] Viktoria: it is allowed ppl been doing that the whole time
[8:46:59 PM] Viktoria: no problemwith it at all
[8:47:44 PM] Bob: And if you're not willing to deal with people when you guys fuck up then what's the point?
[8:48:16 PM] Viktoria: there is dealing with it and dealing with iit
[8:48:43 PM] Viktoria: like you see not everybody has a problem with it and we are doing the best we can
[8:49:16 PM] Bob: Most ppl do, idc it's not the gears I lost or the fc'd account Lol....It's the shitty oh well attitude/I don't care about anything approach by angeal
[8:49:48 PM] Viktoria: like i said the FC'ed accs will be FC'ed again
[8:49:58 PM] Bob: It's like thanks for letting me know your server isn't worth the time to play, that if you guys fuck up that's it we just "deal" with it and wait for the next mistake
[8:50:35 PM] Bob: It's like say.....I dropkick you in the face, then say lets be friends about it
[8:50:40 PM] Viktoria: well Bob ty for letting me know your perfect hehe
[8:50:49 PM] Bob: yw vik

As for ANGEAL's "tendencies" I described earlier, he had a fancy for handing out free items to any women that would go on webcam for him. One event, with a 14-year old girl, was supposedly put onto youtube, as far as what Viktoria and Safe themselves told me. TNT, ANGEAL's brother, was handed free items, boosted stats, and many AP items for free. Natalie/TeenageDreams on the server, ANGEAL's primary webcam friend, was given more, ANGEAL going as far as to kill in-game bosses, such as CTI, to give her special items very few on the server had, and also decided to give her the position of GM ([GM]Fireworks). I can understand wanting to help your good friends and family members out with some gear, but after a while there needs to be a limit.

As far as all hackers and dupers and such getting instant IP bans, well, I believe very heavily this isn't the case, as the GMs themselves had made mention about dupers who still play on the server today, and were allowed a free ride due to their status as GS.

I'm sure I'll get quite a lot of hate for this, and very many insults about wasting my time and so on and so forth, but I felt this needed to be said. I myself have moved on from the server, being one of the many who left after the rollback, and all I can do is express the truth and what evidence points to as the truth for any new players looking for a new pserver.

I will say, despite all these issues, that I had a blast on the server itself. My reason for leaving was due to the GMs, not the server.

Take care, and make an informed decision.

*high5*