[Release] about enchant overflow problem

[astross]

:v

[nubness]

Alright. After almost a day of not paying attention to it, I decided I will reply on this thread to clear the air. I will address everything that was targeting me and I will explain as well as I can.

Originally Posted by ThatBestNub™

But If You Didn't Know, Exploit Comes Before The Fix, Without Exploits There Won't Be Any Fixes.

I released the fix before he released the exploit.

Originally Posted by ThatBestNub™

shen1l Just Released What Most Of The Players Wanted And Asked Him For Help, If They Post In Wrong Section Than Guide Them To The Right Direction Instead Of Insulting Them.The Last Time I Asked You How The Exploit Works You Didn't Tell Me How It Works, After I Found Out The Exploit, I Asked shen1l About It And Wanted To Know What He Would Say Or If His Code Is Different Than Mine, He Replied Me Explanation About How The Exploit Worked.

What most of the players wanted was the ability to attack servers that are still vulnerable. Obviously I could play cool and give everyone the packet that was used to perform this kind of attack, but I said "sorry, I cannot make such a thing public". A developer who doesn't do things only for the credit will care about the consequences of his or her actions too.

Also, shen1l could have shared the packet instead of a video. He wanted us to see his cluttered computer and his personal packet editor (as if he's the only one to have one) so we understand how smart he really is. I know he can do things, he didn't have to waive it in my face like that.

Originally Posted by ThatBestNub™

I Think nubness Is Jealous Of/Hate shen1l Cause :
1. shen1l Progressed Faster Than nubness On Timespan In Coding.
2. shen1l Released Most Of The Ep6 Or Higher Fixes.
3. shen1l Got More Customer's In Less Time On Basic/Intermediate Fixes.
[This Also Goes For Those Other "Dev's" That Hate shen1l.]

Wait, what ?

1) No, he didn't. He's been at this for years before he came public, and while his knowledge is very vast, I can assure you I excel in more development fields than he does. I don't care if people know about my knowledge or not, I don't do it for recognition. I don't do it so my friends can jump into a "Oh yea ? But my friend can beat your friend at X-language" fight.
2) So what ? I never even needed them. The first word that has always came out of my mouth when I heard the word "pet" in a Shaiya context was "bullshit". You can't seriously compare an ep6 (or whatever it is) client with the client of Shaiya Invasion (ep5.4). I'm sorry, you guys. I have worked with a lot of clients, and having a pet and a costume (which we had too) is NOT the most important thing in Shaiya. Yea, it will attract some attention for a while, but in the end, players want pvp. I myself learned this the hard way when I started coding random junk instead of improving players' pvp experience.
3) He sells things for cheap. Can't hate him, really. I'm not even selling anything anymore for over 14 months now. I have had plenty of customers back in the day, everyone was happy (turns out not everyone, read below).

Regarding shen1l's PayPal screenshot from 3 years ago. I honestly don't remember this happening, as I had dealt with a lot of people. I also remember charging way less for the FFA script. But that doesn't matter right now. What matters is the accusation. How the hell could I tell someone that a script will work for both ep4.5 and ep5.4 servers ? That's insane beyond limits. But sure, let's pretend I did tell him that. Why did he never come to me ? "Bro, you're script dosent work, the fuxx i payed money for???"

I have had customers who messaged me even last year telling me that they want to migrate from ep4.5 to ep5.4 ps_game, which requires a remake of all server scripts. As I mentioned before, I am not selling anything since the end of 2014, but I did remake the scripts to work with their new files.

Thanks for calling me a scammer, I guess...

I also had people message me lately about things they want me to code for them. I said my usual "I'm not selling anything anymore" and when they asked me who can, my answer was "Juuf or shen1l". So yea, I even reference people to you, if that counts for something.

Originally Posted by ThatBestNub™

You, Lol, nubness Started The Fight, Can't You See That? Are You So Blind In His Love That You Can't See His Mistake's? What If shen1l Was One Of Your Family Member? Would You Let nubness Insult Them In Front Of You? Take This Just As An Example Nothing More.

If shen1l was her family member she'd go spank him and tell him to shut his pie hole.

I do realize I was a bit rude in my first reply on this thread and I apologize for hurting shen1l's feelings, but I ask you to understand me too. I release a fix for a hack that was pretty bad. I've had admins complaining to me about it for quite a while. Some of them couldn't even sleep because as soon as they got in bed, the attacker would strike again.
And what does shen1l do ? Sure, I'll just explain everyone how to do this thing.

Honestly, I'm not even sure how to approach this thread. I'm being attacked so I should normally strike back, but at the same time I don't wanna attract more hate.

treica, I kinda like treica. He's being really helpful, especially when it comes to PHP. Good job with everything that you do. We did talk before, but I guess you ended up on the other side of this argument because you're talking to shen1l.
Even though, I don't imagine myself telling another dev to shut his mouth like that, but I guess everyone with their own level of education.

Tyler, no comment.

Originally Posted by shen1l

who the fuxx you thought you are?

Oh man, I don't know... Just some loser, I guess...

shen1l... honestly man, I have nothing against you. I didn't like some of the things you do, and I made my opinion public. You can hate me for it all you want. I respect you as a dev. My opinion stands, you're not as good as people give you credit for, but you are very good, don't think I don't pay attention to what people do around here. On the same note, certain people also think too good of me and my skills, and that makes them wrong too. In the end, this isn't about whose dick is longer (no pun intended), or whose brain is bigger. I know you have lots of customers, but don't let that make you feel too important.

Peace.

[Spectral#1]

Originally Posted by ThatBestNub™

I've Got Habit Of Writing Like That.

I Don't Really Want To **** In To This Thing, But I Also Have A Really Bad Habbit Of Typing Like This. And TBH, It's My Proffered Way @.@.

[sominus]

/offtopic

...having a pet and a costume... ...is NOT the most important thing in Shaiya..."

Finally someone said it.
People who think "I get bored without pets", is people who shouldn't play Shaiya and move on to another kind of game.
Who cares about pets when you're in the middle of a massive PvP?

There are games like Aion where hardcore players (with very decent computers), take down many many visual aspects of the game, just to have the maximun PvP experience. They don't care about how it looks, they care about the gameplay.

It's been years since aeria/nexon doesn't improve shaiya's gameplay, they just 'improve' they market.

[wallerus]

So, you release an exploit that will cause all unprotected servers to be shutdown, without releasing the fix for said exploit?

If all you did this for, according to yourself, was to educate people on how it is done then you should have released your version of the fix for it too in this same thread. Since you haven't done that and you haven't even went through the minimal effort to link people to nubnesses fix for this exploit, it leaves me wondering if it isn't without malicious intent to a certain degree. How many servers will be affected by this that are unprotected, that you've sold scripts or custom files to?

I would be extremely surprised if there wasn't at least one more server affected by this exploit directly because you posted this. As someone respected by a lot of people here for being a developer, you should probably think about consequences to releases like this.

Praise the mighty lord and savior nubness for releasing the fix. /s

Originally Posted by nubness

a super brain that absorbs knowledge like a sponge

Sponges are known for leaking though. That explains why you didn't pass your test the first time :3

[treica]

I am nobody's side,

Made my comment here just because i reached the level i couldn't take it anymore in the past couple of months, bashing, dramas and so on and so fourth.

You've changed from the way you we're from good to bad to worse when it comes to thinking before replying.

I don't really have friends in the community anymore as most of the "devs" / "pretending friends" been using my "good will", taken advantage on me and then went against me in full force, made scripts for free then i found they've been sold on my back and stuff.

With Shen, i don't really talk to him, apart from the files i bought from him to ask for fixes and possibly bugs (1 question every 2-3 weeks). To be exactly i don't talk to nobody from the community anymore...

Peace out.

[Agony69]

Originally Posted by treica

I am nobody's side,

Made my comment here just because i reached the level i couldn't take it anymore in the past couple of months, bashing, dramas and so on and so fourth.

You've changed from the way you we're from good to bad to worse when it comes to thinking before replying.

I don't really have friends in the community anymore as most of the "devs" / "pretending friends" been using my "good will", taken advantage on me and then went against me in full force, made scripts for free then i found they've been sold on my back and stuff.

With Shen, i don't really talk to him, apart from the files i bought from him to ask for fixes and possibly bugs (1 question every 2-3 weeks). To be exactly i don't talk to nobody from the community anymore...

Peace out.

I was reading out loud in a call with nubness, I had to read the sentence "I am nobody's side" three times to understand what you actually meant.

Nubness hasn't been posting for four months and you are here, telling us that you are tired of drama, bashing and so on? Oh, please. Get your facts straight.

I can assure you that he thinks just enough before posting and unlike you, his posts aren't written in a 2 minutes span.

You said you have no friends? I wonder why. Did anybody ever tell you that you're behaving like a two faced puppy who's desperately looking for one's approval? (In this case, shen1l's)

As for the betrayal, your so called "friends" selling your scripts behind your back and backstabbing you, has absolutely everything to do with nubness. I mean , c'mon , it's his fault... Right? Not to mention a lot of people also did that to nubness and you didn't see him complaining on the forums.

And it's "I don't talk to anybody" not "I don't talk to nobody" , God ... the grammar in those forums is horrible.



Now... Chris or also known as nubness tried to make me calm down a bit while replying to this and not be such an aggressive person, because I'm literally attacking you with my post, but like I already said, I won't let anybody.. Especially people like you intend to talk bad against him.

Also, you're failing miserably hard at it.

You said it right,
Peace out.

[treica]

I don't understand what you're saying there.

I just meant by that, that i don't protect anybody, everything i said was for me not for anybody else and by the way i am not english i may make mistakes...

I don't know why you girls engage in a boys dispute, if you're thinking i drop back there is no way for me to do that. And you understood everything totally wrong, i just stated the reason why i have no more friends to end it friendly but you just make it worse. Just stop replying.

[Agony69]

Originally Posted by treica

I don't understand what you're saying there.

I just meant by that, that i don't protect anybody, everything i said was for me not for anybody else and by the way i am not english i may make mistakes...

I don't know why you girls engage in a boys dispute, if you're thinking i drop back there is no way for me to do that. And you understood everything totally wrong, i just stated the reason why i have no more friends to end it friendly but you just make it worse. Just stop replying.

We girls, engange, because we like putting our nose in everything. Include business that aren't ours to handle. I'm sure if you had a girlfriend you would understand that she's always going to be protective and loving and caring.

And I just replied. Mad yet?

[#BurnGotYaBitch]

So after following this so called "hate wave" against nubness and shen1, I'd like to step in to say something. I haven't posted anything in a few months because, I usually just read dramas and watch people fight over some stupid shit, but I just feel like I have to step in here and say what I got to say.

First of all this is not a release. As nubness said in his first post. I guess he has the right to guide someone to the right direction right? What he wrote after was mean. But you don't simply attack someone like that without a reason, do you? No, I'm pretty sure he has his reasons. And by the way, it's between nubness and shen1. So if you are not nubness or shen1 you should stay out of it. But who am I kidding? People always have to step in and say something.

nubness have done a lot of great things for this so called community. But he don't really get the respect he deserves. Just think of all the releases and all the people he have helped over the past years for FREE. I'm pretty sure most of you wouldn't waste your time on someone you don't know. And lets not forget the recent fix he just released.
The same thing goes to shen1, oh wait a second. He mostly sells his projects right? Ops, my bad.

Originally Posted by nubness

He wanted us to see his cluttered computer and his personal packet editor

Thank you. I was waiting for someone to say this sooner or later. shen1, if you are going to show us something, so do it clearly. You having up multiple pages is just confusing and annoying. I just feel like you're showing off. And take it a bit slower, you're doing everything too fast. All we see is you clicking on the "Send" bottom and boom, server crashed.

Originally Posted by nubness

I'm a 20 years old guy who is in a happy relationship with an amazing girl for over a year now. I also have an awesome family, as well as great, true friends. Not to mention I have my own apartment, car, more than two monster computers, a blazing fast 1 Gb/s internet connection, a super brain that absorbs knowledge like a sponge, a passion to programming and technology in general, and I make enough money for a decent living.Now tell me please, what or who exactly is it that I'm jealous of ?

Enough said. You people sometimes forget that this is just a game. What you have here in Shaiya, have nothing to say in real life. At the end of the day, it's what you have accomplished in real life that counts, not what you have accomplished in a game.

Thanks for reading my long ass text (if you really did) and peace out.

[treica]

Originally Posted by Agony69

We girls, engange, because we like putting our nose in everything. Include business that aren't ours to handle. I'm sure if you had a girlfriend you would understand that she's always going to be protective and loving and caring.

And I just replied. Mad yet?

I don't have a girlfriend but a lovely fiancee o whom i soon get married. Being protective is something but not understanding a word from what i wrote and continuing this is called "incompetence" sorry. For me to get mad ... not having a reason...

[Autrux]

#moved…

I won't interfere myself in this topic. Just solve your problems, if you really need it.
Will delete the spam posts.

[shen1l]

Originally Posted by #BurnGotYaBitch

The same thing goes to shen1, oh wait a second. He mostly sells his projects right? Ops, my bad.

1.about the video:
(1)the "packet editor " downloaded from forum,not my custom one

(2)i just thought video is better to show how it works,and another reason is i am not good at English

(3)video just very short,around 1 min,did i have enough space to show my knowledge there?and what did i show?point it out plz

(4)all of my customer knew that i always make a video for my script or dll
so video just my style,you all can check my thread,there is always a video

(5)i have enough customers,i am on business trip,but i still got lots of orders
i have no need to make any noise here


2.you can check all my threads,those release not enough?
i just back to shaiya for part-time less 1 year

3.yes...im selling something ,but you need to check my price and services
i dont think there is anyone who can cheaper than me and provide services that better than me
i am not selling my knowledge,i always warn it to myself
every time i decide the price,i will only consider how much time will i pay
on it....i will never care how good is this feature,how expensive should
it be

4.can you guys please do not judge me so easily...
most of you know nothing about me,even not talk to me with 1 word

i will not reply in this thread,i do not want to fight with anyone
unless i have to

[Trayne01]

I like everyone here, and our commun work, because our players enjoy playing our servers and we enjoy making them.
People souldn't have to choose between shen or someone else that's stupid. I respect shen because he fixed and released important fixes such as 5.4 Item Mall fix and thanks to him a lot of servers upgraded to 5.4 serverfiles. But I also respect everyone else such as Treicia, Juuf and everyone else.

Originally Posted by shen1l

who the fuxx you thought you are?

Originally Posted by ThatBestNub™

Think nubness Is Jealous Of/Hate shen1l

Respect... this is the most important thing in a community like ours. No matter what people say (or sell...)
Please stop your quarrels seriously

Peace! And keep making (decent) servers, we love 'em.

[AgustinWoW]

stopppppppppppppppppppp fight madafakas

all are noobs

im the ******* king (okno)