[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

[abu-bakr-al-baghdadi]

Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load

So proof now means "look at my thread, there are so many complaints" huh? No examples, no context, just random noise and a few DMs. What if I told my users to message you saying Matrix, Chudvision, or NBT were all detected or broken? Would that make it fact too?

The list itself has fundamental flaws, and you as the person maintaining it arent exactly helping its credibility.

Never thought I'd say this, but as a matter of fact I agree.
The problem with this thread is that it relies on 2 main things for information.
1. Self reported status by provider, which in 90% of cases is a lie or half truth. (We'll get to that)
2. The experience in status from the perspective of an average user.

First of all, the list is very black or white. Detected or undetected. However, with Rust and EAC it is never that simple. There is in fact 4 if not more states; detected, whitelisted, flagged or undetected.
The average user will assume because they afk'd and played "super legit" on a modded 10x server for 40 hours that the cheat is undetected. It doesn't necessarily mean that the product is undetected. It just means that there was nobody on that server who can take a look at your data using the EAC panel, and your software was "undetected" enough to not trigger any automated ban. Providers know this, experienced users know this. You know this yourself Acus.
This information barrier is exploited by the majority of the scene to push flagged pastes onto the market as being undetected. I mean why wouldn't they if the average user doesn't know how to discern the difference? It's just more revenue.

I can guarantee that nearly all of the products marked as "undetected" on the list would not pass the true undetected test. I'll say this once for the average users, because I am so tired of people selling stuff as undetected when it clearly is flagged or otherwise but works on modded for 100 hours so fuck it let's sell it as "ud".
Stop falling for this deceptive marketing so the scene can go back to producing real quality products.

The true undetected test is as follows
1. Spawn on a fresh account on a fresh install from USB to a Facepunch server.
2. Kill a few players using minimal features, preferably your own friends who will report you.
3. Report yourself in the Rust Discord via the ticket system.

If you get any punishment for doing so, you are not undetected and it is that simple. If it was a temp ban there was little but enough evidence of cheating in the EAC panel, if it was a perm ban there was significant evidence that you were cheating in the EAC panel and the cheat is detected pending a banwave when EAC feels they have enough people caught in the list, it's just not being automated as of yet to obscure the products status. If nothing happens then you are actually using undetected.

As for EvilCheats being marked as untrusted, I'm not necessarily in agreement. The allegations being made are interesting, but even if true, they are nothing the rest of the providers in the scene aren't doing anyway.
Acus and EvilCheats are from my knowledge extraordinarily transparent about the status of the products, and have been the majority of the time.

[moretkunem]

Originally Posted by astroware

You know what, its whatever - i won't use my energy for this.


I'd like to actually talkg about something, worrysome to say the least.

Acus, please explain why does your bot generate random discord invites to random servers of your former users - this looks like you are ratting or at the very least token logging, with your former staff member talking about it.


Now I would really like to see how you explain this away, anybody can make a discord bot, sure, but not everybody is named "its.acus", and this is not a one time thing happening, this happens all the time randomly.


I feel bad for anybody running evilcheats on their PC, truly do.

i actually cant believe what im reading right now. so acus is just openly admitting his discord bot has full permissions and somehow this is supposed to be normal? the bot is literally named its.acus and creates random invites to servers. why would a cheat developer need a discord bot that generates invite links unless hes building a network map of who knows who? this is textbook social engineering reconnaissance. i added it to my server because it had a cool profile picture and now it creates random invites every few days to servers with names like "test" and random number strings. i joined one of them out of curiosity and it was completely empty except for the bot. what is the purpose of creating invites to empty servers unless youre mapping network infrastructure? the invites expire after 24 hours too which suggests automated cleanup to avoid detection. the fact that he deflects every concern by saying "you chose to add it" is gaslighting. nobody reads permission lists when adding discord bots, you just click authorize and assume its safe.

my motherboard died three weeks after installing evilcheats and i had to replace it. cost me 340 dollars. then my ssd started making clicking noises. all of this happened within 6 months of using the cheat and people are telling me its just coincidence? the hypervisor is clearly writing bad data to the hardware firmware during boot initialization. i actually found weird sectors on my drive that were marked as bad but when i ran a different diagnostic tool they showed as healthy. almost like something is intentionally corrupting specific areas to hide data.

what really pisses me off is this man was doing emergency encryption patches from hotel rooms in barcelona and vienna while on vacation. he had to run down from a rooftop party with his family to fix the cheat because it broke. my nephew codes roblox games as a hobby and even he has better deployment systems than this. ten years of experience and the infrastructure is so fragile it requires manual ssh sessions from european hotel lobbies. this is either complete incompetence or deliberate so he can manually access systems without leaving automated logs.

also my cat started acting weird around my pc after i installed the cheat. she used to sleep on top of the case because it was warm but now she hisses at it and runs away. animals can sense things humans cant so this is probably detecting some kind of electromagnetic interference from the corrupted firmware. ive done research on this and its well documented that hardware corruption can affect pet behavior through emf radiation. my cat is 8 years old and never acted like this before so something definitely changed at the hardware level.

ive also noticed my internet speeds are slower specifically when the cheat is running. i pay for gigabit and normally get 940mbps down but when evilcheats is active it drops to around 750mbps. i tested this over 3 weeks with the cheat on and off and the pattern is consistent. something is using bandwidth in the background that doesnt show up in task manager or wireshark.

marcus aurelius once said "the man who must descend from celebration to repair his creation has built nothing of value, only monuments to his own chaos" and honestly that quote hits different after reading all this.

[HVH_KINGPIN_NN_BLASTER]

Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load

He has to give some benefit for the money, tiers don't exist anymore, so lets remove the only other undetected internal. This list is a joke, that is why I banned him from my cheat and discord 2 days ago. That is why we are untrusted now.

See the reason you are untrusted is because you choose to ban trusted reviewers when they call your product what it is. Have you thought about yourself here? The fact that your product is worse rated than all of these other no name products is absurd. Its in the same tier as ring ******* 1 . Your obsession with banning users (first wanting to ban me after i dropped your ***, then trying to ban legitimate reviewers, then banning everyone who complains). Its insane to me how you in the course of 10 pages managed to go from tier 2 -> tier 3 -> untrusted all by attacking everyone you could like an angry child. Maybe you should take some of the money from the gambling fund and hire a PR manager?

[flyingicarus]

Acus has been the best since day one and people forget that. All these wild stories about bots and hardware damage are just people trying to sound technical without knowing what they’re talking about. The Discord bot thing is normal for any automated system, it’s how permissions work. The slowdown people complain about is probably their own PCs choking on background junk like nbt.

[moretkunem]

Originally Posted by flyingicarus

Acus has been the best since day one and people forget that. All these wild stories about bots and hardware damage are just people trying to sound technical without knowing what they’re talking about. The Discord bot thing is normal for any automated system, it’s how permissions work. The slowdown people complain about is probably their own PCs choking on background junk like nbt.

heraclitus, the pre-socratic philosopher who founded the theory of eternal flux and is considered the father of dialectics, once said "that which fades from memory was never carved in stone, only written in the desperation of those who needed it to be true" and i think thats pretty relevant when people talk about day one being the best.

Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load

@VIP The rust update, updated EOS SDK, which is used for communication with EAC. Due to that we have to make a few adjustments, we will keep everyone updated but it will most likely take a little longer than I initially anticipated. Not days nor weeks. Every server is basically updated besides a few modded ones which is why we now have to focus on that specific update, the (1/3), there is no point in putting our update out before that.

nbt fixed this in 3 hours yesterday but yeah definitely take a few more days to "make adjustments." maybe you can update it from another hotel rooftop in portugal or something, that seemed to work great last time. at least youre keeping people informed with these detailed technical explanations about why you need extra time to do what other devs finished before lunch yesterday

[astroware]

Originally Posted by moretkunem

heraclitus, the pre-socratic philosopher who founded the theory of eternal flux and is considered the father of dialectics, once said "that which fades from memory was never carved in stone, only written in the desperation of those who needed it to be true" and i think thats pretty relevant when people talk about day one being the best.





nbt fixed this in 3 hours yesterday but yeah definitely take a few more days to "make adjustments." maybe you can update it from another hotel rooftop in portugal or something, that seemed to work great last time. at least youre keeping people informed with these detailed technical explanations about why you need extra time to do what other devs finished before lunch yesterday

" but it will most likely take a little longer than I initially anticipated. Not days nor weeks."

Does this mean it'll take him months? what bro...

[flyingicarus]

Originally Posted by astroware

" but it will most likely take a little longer than I initially anticipated. Not days nor weeks."

Does this mean it'll take him months? what bro...

I’ve already talked to Acus and he assured me he’ll have a full fix within two months, maybe even sooner if the SDK side doesn’t shift again. He also mentioned this should fix any manual cerbs or delayed manual bans that happened from people not training their accounts properly before playing, so that’s nice. He made it clear this wasn’t on his end but caused by changes in the EOS layer, so compensation probably won’t happen this time, which is fair enough.

[babyshkaTrevis]

Evil 2021-2023 in PRIME ❤❤❤

[moretkunem]

Originally Posted by abu-bakr-al-baghdadi

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account created today with 1 post but somehow has an encyclopedic understanding of eac detection states, intimate knowledge of how providers operate behind the scenes, and just happens to conclude that evilcheats is actually very transparent after 4 paragraphs explaining how the entire scene is built on deception. totally organic post from a concerned observer who definitely isnt affiliated with anyone and just felt compelled to register an account to defend the integrity of detection testing methodologies. "the allegations are interesting but even if true everyone else does it anyway" is an absolutely incredible defense. really inspiring stuff. calling evilcheats "extraordinarily transparent" is definitely not suspicious at all. the timing is fantastic too. acus gets absolutely roasted, and within 24 hours a brand new account appears to explain that actually all the criticism is invalid and evilcheats is the most honest provider. aristotle, the founder of formal logic and empirical observation, once said "he who arrives to defend that which needs no defense has already revealed the nature of his investment" and i think thats beautiful.

[AnonUser30]

Originally Posted by moretkunem

account created today with 1 post but somehow has an encyclopedic understanding of eac detection states, intimate knowledge of how providers operate behind the scenes, and just happens to conclude that evilcheats is actually very transparent after 4 paragraphs explaining how the entire scene is built on deception. totally organic post from a concerned observer who definitely isnt affiliated with anyone and just felt compelled to register an account to defend the integrity of detection testing methodologies. "the allegations are interesting but even if true everyone else does it anyway" is an absolutely incredible defense. really inspiring stuff. calling evilcheats "extraordinarily transparent" is definitely not suspicious at all. the timing is fantastic too. acus gets absolutely roasted, and within 24 hours a brand new account appears to explain that actually all the criticism is invalid and evilcheats is the most honest provider. aristotle, the founder of formal logic and empirical observation, once said "he who arrives to defend that which needs no defense has already revealed the nature of his investment" and i think thats beautiful.

The quotes are hilarious, keep it up XD

Im a nobody, but imo the new layout of the list makes more sense with how the past like 10 pages of this thread has been and people bickering, however I think you still (in my opinion) could add last detections (if any) for the cheats as long as its confirmed. This would provide users with more helpful information of a cheats detection history as alot of people care about that.

[!nvictus-Load]

Originally Posted by HVH_KINGPIN_NN_BLASTER

See the reason you are untrusted is because you choose to ban trusted reviewers when they call your product what it is. Have you thought about yourself here? The fact that your product is worse rated than all of these other no name products is absurd. Its in the same tier as ring ******* 1 . Your obsession with banning users (first wanting to ban me after i dropped your ***, then trying to ban legitimate reviewers, then banning everyone who complains). Its insane to me how you in the course of 10 pages managed to go from tier 2 -> tier 3 -> untrusted all by attacking everyone you could like an angry child. Maybe you should take some of the money from the gambling fund and hire a PR manager?

Our cheat is private, this list is the complete opposite of that. I didn't even want him testing it to begin with, but agreed to give it a chance.

We don't rely on the epvp audience or this threads "tier list".. I jave asked several times to be removed from it.

And just to clarify: his ban reason was never shared with anyone outside two people in our staff. So keep making assumptions if that helps your story.

[HVH_KINGPIN_NN_BLASTER]

Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load

We don't rely on the epvp audience or this threads "tier list".. I jave asked several times to be removed from it.

And yet you are in my mentions??????? Go fix your hack instead of arguing with me on here???

[luvryzzys]

wtf happened to this list xD. Better off not looking at it when deciding who to go with.

[comboss]

Originally Posted by luvryzzys

wtf happened to this list xD. Better off not looking at it when deciding who to go with.

ts looks dog and is barely helpful doesnt list the features the pros/cons or how long its been UD the change fr sucks

[fednd]

Originally Posted by !nvictus-Load

Our cheat is private, this list is the complete opposite of that. I didn't even want him testing it to begin with, but agreed to give it a chance.

We don't rely on the epvp audience or this threads "tier list".. I jave asked several times to be removed from it.

And just to clarify: his ban reason was never shared with anyone outside two people in our staff. So keep making assumptions if that helps your story.

Why scam users when ACUS gambles a down payment on a house daily

Originally Posted by comboss

ts looks dog and is barely helpful doesnt list the features the pros/cons or how long its been UD the change fr sucks

Only 2 cheats u should use on the list anyway and that's chud or nbt only software worth spending money on