[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

[02407]

Originally Posted by lort1234

Clearly this argument isn't about the list anymore, it seems very personal, so let me make it very clear.

Make a complaint in the complaint area on this forum and provide your "evidence" to the staff team of Elitepvpers, then i will provide all of my evidence too.

I am not gonna sit all Friday being mad and arguing with someone (I believe) at being an alt account and am i not gonna write pages of responses just because you feel like the list isn't "fair".

If you have any issues take i up with the staff team, then we can take it that way, i have everything in the clear and i have the means to provide all the proof needed.

I will stop replying and instead we can take it up with the staff team of Elitepvpers if you would like that.

personal? i've only used facts and your own words. the only one making it personal is you, by constantly bringing up my post count instead of defending your tier list.

and now you want me to make a formal complaint? that's hilarious. you refuse to answer simple questions or provide a single piece of proof here in public, but now you suddenly have "all the proof needed" for the staff? you're trying to shut down a public discussion about your public list by hiding behind a private complaint process. if you had any real evidence, you would have posted it here already.

i'm not making a complaint. there's no need. you've already proven my point for everyone to see. this was never about getting you in trouble, it was about showing the inconsistencies in your list so other people don't get misled.

you saying you'll "stop replying" isn't you taking the high road, it's you admitting you've lost the argument. you can't defend your choices, so you're taking your ball and going home. "i have explained more than enough" is what people say when they know they can't explain it any further.

so let's leave it here. you were asked simple questions:

• why is a recently detected cheat in tier 1?
• why is a new, sponsored, feature-light cheat in tier 1?
• why is a long-term, undetected cheat in tier 2?
• why do you call identical-looking menus 'outdated' for one cheat but 'modern' for another?

your answers were to attack my account, make claims you can't prove, change your story, and now, to run away and hide behind the staff.

you've made it perfectly clear to everyone reading this that your list is based on personal feelings, not facts. that's all i needed to show.

I'm done here, have a good one

[883838383333]

Originally Posted by SauceMachine

Does it matter...? as long as it works I mean? Going internal with EAC takes skill, so clearly there are competent people behind it. Seems like a pointless discussion.

this guy gets it.

[alexpsp00]

Originally Posted by 02407

so let's leave it here. you were asked simple questions:

• why is a recently detected cheat in tier 1?
• why is a new, sponsored, feature-light cheat in tier 1?
• why is a long-term, undetected cheat in tier 2?
• why do you call identical-looking menus 'outdated' for one cheat but 'modern' for another?

He already answered all these questions if you bother to read.

I do agree that the NBT menu isnt that great or "modern" but WRC is way worse.

[moretkunem]

Originally Posted by 02407

~shitpost~

you said "I'm done here" twice and then edited your posts or vomited out another 500 words both times. even your exits have no conviction.

nobody is reading your manifesto about menu design. you've spent the entire thread having a psychiatric episode because someone ranked your favorite cheat lower than you wanted, and now you're pretending this is about maintaining consistent standards and objective facts. you're just an obsessive little weirdo who's so emotionally devastated by a tier list that you wrote a dissertation with screenshots and bullet points like you're deposing a witness.

the funniest part is you keep complaining about bias while deepthroating evilcheats in every other paragraph. we can all see what this is. you're not fooling anyone with your "i'm just being logical" shtick while you're clearly three sentences away from tattooing their logo onto your forehead.

tl;dr stay mad you evolutionary cul-de-sac

[Relentless]

Holy beef bruh. More arguments than actual cheat discussion. At this point wipe the last 5 pages. So the average cheater (clueless) isn’t over whelmed by this yap fest.

[astroware]

Originally Posted by moretkunem

you said "I'm done here" twice and then edited your posts or vomited out another 500 words both times. even your exits have no conviction.

nobody is reading your manifesto about menu design. you've spent the entire thread having a psychiatric episode because someone ranked your favorite cheat lower than you wanted, and now you're pretending this is about maintaining consistent standards and objective facts. you're just an obsessive little weirdo who's so emotionally devastated by a tier list that you wrote a dissertation with screenshots and bullet points like you're deposing a witness.

the funniest part is you keep complaining about bias while deepthroating evilcheats in every other paragraph. we can all see what this is. you're not fooling anyone with your "i'm just being logical" shtick while you're clearly three sentences away from tattooing their logo onto your forehead.

tl;dr stay mad you evolutionary cul-de-sac

ahahahahahahahah

[lort1234]

List reworked to be more "unbiased".

[maseratti]

Originally Posted by lort1234

List reworked to be more "unbiased".

looking good now!!!

[chud1]

I don’t wanna be that guy, but this might be a slight overreaction.
Pretty sure we can all agree ArtificialAiming deserves its own category called “The Bomb” sitting comfortably above everything else.

[chud1]

Massive glrazzzzing detected. Salty trollzzz have returned.

[HVH_KINGPIN_NN_BLASTER]

In general i think this discussion is stupid, menus should be judged based on their accessibility features (screen reader support, color blindness filters, DLSS scaling for fps)

So far very little cheats have actually invented into making their menus compete with things like chrome. ACUS used to have a beautiful web-based menu that supported this, that was removed due to an EAC detection, and now people are complaining about his modern menu? Good.

UI interfaces were solved years ago, frameworks like electron and react exist, they are meant to make it easy to create interfaces (i cant code, but chatgpt coded me an example one 5 minutes, that puts all of these "good" menus to shame). I fail to understand why these so called "competent" developers fail to create functional UI that meets any sane accessibility practices.

evilCheats is not meant to ever reach tier 1, it used to be a functional cheat with lots of features and then ACUS removed them all, i still remember when he removed NAME ESP because it was detected. In 2021 Evil Cheats was also cheaper, a case of late stage capitalism working where he out competed all other providers by selling an amazing cheat (with a chrome based menu, lots of features, and barley any detections). Back then, sure it would have been tier 1. Now? Its a joke, is ESP only. As someone who bought the private, then slotted, then private, then had to pay again for private i have been there for the full history of this product. It went on a downhill slope since he removed the trust system from the loader and let EAC employees buy in. There is a reason Invictus exit scammed, he peaked in 2019 and has been spiraling like a crazed lunatic for years now. ACUS will probably ban me from the hack after posting this (shame really, i liked dual injecting MATRIX on top, just to get any features that worked)

Honestly purge the last 10 pages, so much drama managed to ruin a decent thread and a long time reader like myself had to step in to clean this garbage up.

[moretkunem]

[astroware]

Originally Posted by HVH_KINGPIN_NN_BLASTER

In general i think this discussion is stupid, menus should be judged based on their accessibility features (screen reader support, color blindness filters, DLSS scaling for fps)

So far very little cheats have actually invented into making their menus compete with things like chrome. ACUS used to have a beautiful web-based menu that supported this, that was removed due to an EAC detection, and now people are complaining about his modern menu? Good.

UI interfaces were solved years ago, frameworks like electron and react exist, they are meant to make it easy to create interfaces (i cant code, but chatgpt coded me an example one 5 minutes, that puts all of these "good" menus to shame). I fail to understand why these so called "competent" developers fail to create functional UI that meets any sane accessibility practices.

evilCheats is not meant to ever reach tier 1, it used to be a functional cheat with lots of features and then ACUS removed them all, i still remember when he removed NAME ESP because it was detected. In 2021 Evil Cheats was also cheaper, a case of late stage capitalism working where he out competed all other providers by selling an amazing cheat (with a chrome based menu, lots of features, and barley any detections). Back then, sure it would have been tier 1. Now? Its a joke, is ESP only. As someone who bought the private, then slotted, then private, then had to pay again for private i have been there for the full history of this product. It went on a downhill slope since he removed the trust system from the loader and let EAC employees buy in. There is a reason Invictus exit scammed, he peaked in 2019 and has been spiraling like a crazed lunatic for years now. ACUS will probably ban me from the hack after posting this (shame really, i liked dual injecting MATRIX on top, just to get any features that worked)

Honestly purge the last 10 pages, so much drama managed to ruin a decent thread and a long time reader like myself had to step in to clean this garbage up.

lmfao

[alexpsp00]

Originally Posted by HVH_KINGPIN_NN_BLASTER

In general i think this discussion is stupid, menus should be judged based on their accessibility features (screen reader support, color blindness filters, DLSS scaling for fps)

So far very little cheats have actually invented into making their menus compete with things like chrome. ACUS used to have a beautiful web-based menu that supported this, that was removed due to an EAC detection, and now people are complaining about his modern menu? Good.

UI interfaces were solved years ago, frameworks like electron and react exist, they are meant to make it easy to create interfaces (i cant code, but chatgpt coded me an example one 5 minutes, that puts all of these "good" menus to shame). I fail to understand why these so called "competent" developers fail to create functional UI that meets any sane accessibility practices.

evilCheats is not meant to ever reach tier 1, it used to be a functional cheat with lots of features and then ACUS removed them all, i still remember when he removed NAME ESP because it was detected. In 2021 Evil Cheats was also cheaper, a case of late stage capitalism working where he out competed all other providers by selling an amazing cheat (with a chrome based menu, lots of features, and barley any detections). Back then, sure it would have been tier 1. Now? Its a joke, is ESP only. As someone who bought the private, then slotted, then private, then had to pay again for private i have been there for the full history of this product. It went on a downhill slope since he removed the trust system from the loader and let EAC employees buy in. There is a reason Invictus exit scammed, he peaked in 2019 and has been spiraling like a crazed lunatic for years now. ACUS will probably ban me from the hack after posting this (shame really, i liked dual injecting MATRIX on top, just to get any features that worked)

Honestly purge the last 10 pages, so much drama managed to ruin a decent thread and a long time reader like myself had to step in to clean this garbage up.

Holy shitpost

[!nvictus-Load]

Originally Posted by HVH_KINGPIN_NN_BLASTER

In general i think this discussion is stupid, menus should be judged based on their accessibility features (screen reader support, color blindness filters, DLSS scaling for fps)

So far very little cheats have actually invented into making their menus compete with things like chrome. ACUS used to have a beautiful web-based menu that supported this, that was removed due to an EAC detection, and now people are complaining about his modern menu? Good.

UI interfaces were solved years ago, frameworks like electron and react exist, they are meant to make it easy to create interfaces (i cant code, but chatgpt coded me an example one 5 minutes, that puts all of these "good" menus to shame). I fail to understand why these so called "competent" developers fail to create functional UI that meets any sane accessibility practices.

evilCheats is not meant to ever reach tier 1, it used to be a functional cheat with lots of features and then ACUS removed them all, i still remember when he removed NAME ESP because it was detected. In 2021 Evil Cheats was also cheaper, a case of late stage capitalism working where he out competed all other providers by selling an amazing cheat (with a chrome based menu, lots of features, and barley any detections). Back then, sure it would have been tier 1. Now? Its a joke, is ESP only. As someone who bought the private, then slotted, then private, then had to pay again for private i have been there for the full history of this product. It went on a downhill slope since he removed the trust system from the loader and let EAC employees buy in. There is a reason Invictus exit scammed, he peaked in 2019 and has been spiraling like a crazed lunatic for years now. ACUS will probably ban me from the hack after posting this (shame really, i liked dual injecting MATRIX on top, just to get any features that worked)

Honestly purge the last 10 pages, so much drama managed to ruin a decent thread and a long time reader like myself had to step in to clean this garbage up.

DLSS for a 2D menu, with a couple of checkboxes and lines on your screen? Study the words you use.

You wont get banned since I dont know who you are, if i knew, I would dm you, send you a refund and ban you after. You would most likely argue then that you got banned for criticism but this is a rant and calling us a scammer even though our history with invictus is known and we ported every customer over. Matrix is developed by chasenelson, the very same developer that was inspired by evilcheats in 2017-2018 to start their own project.

I have been doing this since 2014, my decisions on features, menu and other implementations is based on experience that you would never understand.

Enjoy!