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BUYING WD PM OFFERING GREAT PRICE

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BUYING WD PM OFFERING GREAT PRICE

Hi everybody. I have set my eyes on the white dragon. I have done full research on it, and pretty much every trade that has been done surrounding it on my server, and i have come up with an offer that i believe is unbeatable.

1200 euros and R6 Ifrit for white dragon.

Now what is the in game price of ur t6 unique pet? I will provide 3 the more famous trades and also 2 more that are currently in the market.
Trade 1 - possibly the first ever wd trade, from iBlow to Maricar. Being 'the first', this deal caused maricar a total of what he claims to be 34b, although the total value is disputable. From my research, it seems that the deal consisted of 1 r7 genie, 1 138 genie and 1 134 cerberus and 2-3b adds. r7 genie = 13b, r6 genie = 11b, cerberus = 8b for a total of 31b. This, ofcourse is a huge price and possibley more then anyone will every pay, as this was the first ever deal on server and the person interested in dealing was maricar, who is the richest person on the server

The 2nd trade, and possibly the most referenced when people talk about wd trades. From Certia to unknown merch alt. Certia displayed her fresh wd in the flea market for 20b for a few days. This is because she tamed two with the 100ish tpros she had. She then sold her angel and attempted to tame an ifrit. All tries failed. She then traded the wd for a 14x ifrit and a +20 ancient r6 staff for a total value of around 20b as she first asked. This caused the whole wd market to shake basically as right now, any random person, if asked a pc on world chat will say that a wd is 20b. What my investiagtion shows, however, is that hers is one of the more bargain cases.

The 3rd and most recent trade, from godlypro to possibly evilscream. He doesnt wish to disclose the full contents of the deal, but 1 solid sentence i got out of godlypro was that he got around 25b for it. What i have seen is that godlypros inventory now includes an r7 genie and r7 angel and near r7 harpy, possibly the majority of what was traded.

Now for the 2 currently on the market. 1 is being sold by tanking4u. around r5ish. she seems frustrated that she hasnt gotten any good offers recently and laments how certia has scandalised the wd market lol, but from what she says and from some talking with her on my own merch alts, she wants a r6++ genie and r6++ ifrit for it.
The 2nd one on the market is from maricar. surprised? i was too. on further inspection, however, it seems maricar wants to open up his market again. his 4wds are basically all he has and the stuff he currently shouts in the world chat all belong to his friends ie kuasamaut, deianu etc. it seems he wants to sell one of his and again start up his business with new found capital. everytime i ask him how much, he always replies, offer. the only conclusion i can come to is that he doesnt want to frighten interested buyers by wanting the equivalent of what he paid for when so many others are selling/sold for lower. one time however, i got him truly interested in dealing with the following offer - 138 genie 138 ifrit +20 thunder +20 scream of dragon +5 ctc. that comes to around a value of 30b. This however, was not my own offer, and i was offering on behalf of my friend MCPunjabi, but MCPunjabi backed out in the end, possibly because he didnt want to replace his whole inventory with a single item

So what is the conclusion? a wd ranges from 20 to 30b, most of the time in the 25-28b range.
And now for my own offer for a wd, which i think beats all. My offer is 12x ifrit and 1200 euros. Price of ifrit? 12b fresh, 13b for +25, prices being from a number of buyers/sellers ie mcbreeder and tedros, both who have bought ifrits for genie + adds at such a value. And now the res 17b?
1200 euros atm is 1480 dollars = 125 tpros. At the time of sale, tpros cost 150m. Therefore 125 * 150 = 18.75b
This brings my offer to a total of 30+b. A fully lucrative offer on a wd. Out of sale, ie right now, tpros cost 180m, therefore bringing the potential value of my offer even higher, maybe even higher then maricars offer of 34b to iblow if i were to buy the tpros and wait before selling them. What i am implying is that one way or the other, my offer is as good as any in-game offer for a wd.
Now you may be wondering, why dont i just buy one in game then? The reason - both profitable sales - ie anc strikes and tpros have just passed quite recently. It is probable that the next time they are on are black friday or some other occasion that is still a while away. Therefore i have turned my eyes on the black market. There is one allright sale at this moment itself that i considered exploiting - the rebirth sale - 4500 gpots for 500m value. That is to say i could buy 35 rebirths that would result in 17.5b value and that would quite easily get me a wd [ie my ifrit and 18bish pure cash]. The problem? Rebirths dont have inelastic demand like anc strikes and tpros so me introducing so much into supply chain may lower their value and so i would not meet my target 30b. This ofcourse, is debatable and i very well might be able to meet the 30b range.
Well, for all my analysis, my point is that i am offering a cash amount and an good item for the wd. It is rare to get the full cash price of an item when selling on the blackmarket. Ie, a 120 hawk would sell for 800m on the normal market, ie that would results in around 70 bucks of gpots. One would be hard pressed, however, to offer 70 bucks for a r6 hawk on the black market, as prices here reflect price of rupee sellers, not price of gpots, Being that as it is, im offering a huge cash amount that indeed reflects gpot prices and not black market prices.

my point being = my offer is good

pm me what you have and we'll try to arrange something
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Old 06/01/2010, 06:43   #2 Trade Status: Unverified(?)
 
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you didn't even say on which server.
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Old 06/01/2010, 06:46   #3 Trade Status: Unverified(?)
 
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ye xD
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Old 06/01/2010, 08:53   #4 Trade Status: Unverified(?)
 
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judging by the people mentioned i would say on naga server us.

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The 3rd and most recent trade, from godlypro to possibly evilscream. He doesnt wish to disclose the full contents of the deal, but 1 solid sentence i got out of godlypro was that he got around 25b for it. What i have seen is that godlypros inventory now includes an r7 genie and r7 angel and near r7 harpy, possibly the majority of what was traded.
godlypro has a r7 cerb too. idk if it was part of the trade but he got one now xD owns me all the time hori north -_-

but gl finding a seller and please misko stop with the one word posting, the comments are not needed and will be reported.
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Old 06/01/2010, 13:31   #5
 
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yes youre right danger i am from naga server. that does not necessarily mean i want a wd in naga. while this is preferable, if there is nothing to be found then i am allright with some other server ie fenrir or tortus.
and godlypro has had that cerb for a bit now - the wd trade however happened just 2 days ago.
and thanks lol i hope i can find something too XD if not then im just gonna have to resign until next tpro sale lol
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deal arranged. i am still however glad to see anything else one of you may have for me so please pm if my offer interests you
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bump - news flash - seems maricar has bought out another wd -_- im a bit clueless how he paid for it as apart from the 4 wds he's had from the last tpro sale, he had only a 13x ifrit [which he still has], but anyway thats some more data to add to my dissertation. this time he gave up 35 tpros a r7 genie and r7 angel - genie 13b angel 6b tpros 6.3b for a total of 25ishb - again lower [much lower] then what i am offering.
i started to take offers on my ifrit to see exactly what it is worth - co is 150 genie and +15 axe and +11 falcon armor for a total of 14ishb. offer is from tanking4u. i suspect the genie is the one maricar gave up recently lol.
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bump.
ive got a deal arranged and the time agreed upon is drawing pretty close. ive gotten a lot of offers overall, but still none from naga.
my total budget is 1500 euros, although i definitely am not offering it all for a wd, as that would simply be going overboard. therefore my total potential offer is 1500 euros + ifrit.
the current nicest deal ive gotten for the above offer is r6 wd r6 char and a load of other interesting stuff ie +20 equips [staff and r6 war armor], **** nice sb equips for the char, pretty cool support pets to ds with the wd [ie r7 rp and a high r6 bp and sorta pimped equips for them], nearly a billion rupees, multiple reb scrolls, a nightmare pet and +4 cards for the char.

the best 'value' offer ive gotten is 1300 bucks straight up for just a wd, no ifrit from my side, no adds from his.

i even have a legit offer from ingame - ie one of my friends actually offered to sell me a wd next tpro sale for 1000 bucks of tpros or 1200 bucks of anc strikes, my ifrit and some other stuff i have on me ingame.
if you think youve got something that will draw me away from either of these three, feel free to pm.
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Old 06/10/2010, 21:27   #9
 
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here is some evidence


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Ive actually used a wd recently and i can see why it really isnt worth as much as some people might think. huge nukes, but when on cool down [which is a large part of the time] its gonna be a pathetic hitter. the r7 aoe isnt much to brag about either. good stats and the passives are nice, and the pdef is good but all in all it really is just a glorified rp-yeti mix. im still buying one however so pm me what you have :P my point however is that im not gonna offer a rupee more then my stated offer so dont bother me if you think your wd is a gold mine - the wds performance aside [and it isnt *** mode as i thought], its still just a bunch of electrons in some server in california for a game that just about noone knows.
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Old 06/11/2010, 22:15   #10
 
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and some more evidence about the general price of a wd:


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the pic is from tortus tho not my own naga server - but this adds even more relevance to it since a lot of the offers ive gotten are from tortus.
plus, there is now TPRO SALE! so assuming that tpros go for 150m, thats not even 1000 euros need to bag a fresh wd. i dunno if i still wanna pay the full amount i originally mentioned i mean after all this overwhelming evidence im beginning to think a wd isnt really worth much anyway and to top it all off gpot are now worth their highest possible value...:S
make me change my mind folks send me a good offer! or else im going to give my hard earned money to gpotato instead lol
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lol and here i thought wds were worth their weight in gold
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in light of all this evidence, im obviously not offering 1200 euros and ifrit for wd anymore. so please dont pm me with your wds unless you can come up with a more interesting offer for me that actually gives me reason to turn to the black market and break the tos
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Just an friendly advice 1,5k = 1 tprot right? that is 15 dollars, most people take around 100 tprots to tame (if your lucky), ofc some also do it in 6 tries but lets say 100. 100 x 15 dollar = 1500 dollar. That is if you buy it with gpots, so ya sure 1200 euros is way to much since thats around 1600 dollar, but I think you can definatly expect to pay 900 euros which is like 1200 dollar. Again this is no spam or w/e just trying to help and make this more clear or w/e:P. You can also call me bored XD
Hope the info helps you a little or other people who are trying to sell for to overprice.
hf and I hope you get one soon
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tpro = 1200 gpots not 1500
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lol thanks sikkepit. and ur right man my offer was too high :P last seller backed down guys cuz he claims that his irl friend lost it. sounds strange to me.
but whatever i am back on the market!
also, i wtb a genie on the naga server [only naga], or an ifrit, or both maybe. pm me offers
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