3DModelViewer

[Cryless~]

Originally Posted by @LRevolution

What you post here is supposed to be a side project, something you do for fun, you can't tell me you dev tools on epvp for a living.

It's 100% your right to make it open source or not, but what you said is just an excuse. OpenNos team (lucifer in particular) spent years on it and still its open source.

Don't get me wrong, I respect your work and also your person, but don't take shortcuts like that.

What you say does not make sense, I am a freelancer and this is my job. Epvp is just another place where I can earn a few €. You are wrong and I can live doing so. Please review your position, learn the trading art then come back.

+ 5€ + 5€ + 5€.. + 45€.. etc..



The best way is to earn with a team, this is my part in a day (and was divided by 2):



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OpenNos is run by a 16 yo team, they do it to study and this is enough to reward them. If you go back in 2014 then you will find a lot of open source projects on my part.

[@LRevolution]

Originally Posted by SystemX64™

What you say does not make sense, I am a freelancer and this is my job. Epvp is just another place where I can earn a few €. You are wrong and I can live doing so. Please review your position, learn the trading art then come back.

+ 5€ + 5€ + 5€.. + 45€.. etc..



The best way is to earn with a team, this is my part in a day (and was divided by 2):



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OpenNos is run by a 16 yo team, they do it to study and this is enough to reward them. If you go back in 2014 then you will find a lot of open source projects on my part.

What you said does not make sense either, I said you're not supposed to live from programs you sell on epvp, I never said you could not.
If you do then that's your life choice, that does not remove any credit to what I said, it would be better if devs posted open source programs.

The few € you get could be donations, just sayin', but you gotta do what you gotta do.

[Cryless~]

Originally Posted by @LRevolution

What you said does not make sense either, I said you're not supposed to live from programs you sell on epvp, I never said you could not.

"you can't tell me" Then you should express yourself because this looked a statement. Misunderstood.

If you do then that's your life choice, that does not remove any credit to what I said, it would be better if devs posted open source programs.

I am the first in favor of open source but people are greedy, use and complain without giving any support.

The few € you get could be donations, just sayin', but you gotta do what you gotta do.

I do not know what world you live but people never given me anything when it was possible to do so.

I think I've answered all your questions, I ask you now to stop. If you have any suggestion then contact me in private. I will be happy to reply you in the same way that in public.

[0Lucifer0]

Originally Posted by SystemX64™

OpenNos is run by a 16 yo team, they do it to study and this is enough to reward them. If you go back in 2014 then you will find a lot of open source projects on my part.

Opennos team is older than 16. Personnaly i code only for fun. my real job (because yes that's my real job exactly like chucktheripper) give me enough money to eat. Each member of the team have different goal. I think everyone is Free to sell or give things everywhere. Opennos is free because I get exactly what I need with it.

Nothing is really free. So exactly like systemx64 I get something from my project. Some people want money other just need to have fun that's a personal choice...

The only thing here is that I'm not sure that the community will find anything to do with your software. Its a real cool soft but when 95% of the community is not even able to make a launcher or read a readme file im not sure that a simple way to get 3D model and edit them will be useful if I were interesting in private server(I don't care about private server I just care about opennos dev) I think this soft will be really usefull. if one day a server decide to change 3D models or even make its own maps it will be a real good server.

Edit : donation don't work in about 1.5 years on opennos we only get 1 donation for the project. People here don't give money just to support you. The only way to get money is to give them something in exchange

[ernilos]

Originally Posted by SystemX64™

A new version has been released for the full support of 3D models and a viewer's improvement.

Could you explain what do you understand by "full support of 3D models"? I actually don't have NosTale client installed and I cannot verify it yet I think texture support is missing.

And ain't quite expensive? I think 3D file structure has been released few times in this board if I'm not mistaken, alongside some parsing tools? If not I could search on my HDD and release my old 3D parser source written in OpenGL, I think it does the same as this release but with "crappier" interface (muh documenting files and not making pretty tools, shame on me).

[Cryless~]

Originally Posted by ernilos

Could you explain what do you understand by "full support of 3D models"? I actually don't have NosTale client installed and I cannot verify it yet I think texture support is missing.

Your pattern function was unable to localize groups in some 3d model. It got removed and now the tool is able to open any model.

This tool is free and always will. My products are generally free. This does not mean that I should also release the source code. As I am repeating many times, I have lost hours developing it and a small contribution does not hurt anyone.

Normal people do not have to worry about, developers can instead make money by reselling the finished product.

This version is not complete, the tool will be able to render textures and insert/remove new models or edit existing ones.

[m4x1k1nnq]

Originally Posted by 0Lucifer0

Opennos team is older than 16. Personnaly i code only for fun. my real job (because yes that's my real job exactly like chucktheripper) give me enough money to eat. Each member of the team have different goal. I think everyone is Free to sell or give things everywhere. Opennos is free because I get exactly what I need with it.

Nothing is really free. So exactly like systemx64 I get something from my project. Some people want money other just need to have fun that's a personal choice...

The only thing here is that I'm not sure that the community will find anything to do with your software. Its a real cool soft but when 95% of the community is not even able to make a launcher or read a readme file im not sure that a simple way to get 3D model and edit them will be useful if I were interesting in private server(I don't care about private server I just care about opennos dev) I think this soft will be really usefull. if one day a server decide to change 3D models or even make its own maps it will be a real good server.

Actually I would edit some Models and create some new ones and I don't think that I'am the only one whos able to do that. The only part that keeps me from doing that is the Terms of Gameforge (Copyright part). As long as Gameforge is having the License for NosTale in Europe I'll probably only use 3D Models from NosTale for creating Trailers or Artworks.


PS: @ I'd actually like to know from where you got the 3D Model of the Character, as far as I know the normal Characters are not 3D Objects, thought these were Pictures from 8 Sides of the Char.

[Cryless~]

Originally Posted by m4x1k1nnq

Actually I would edit some Models and create some new ones and I don't think that I'am the only one whos able to do that. The only part that keeps me from doing that is the Terms of Gameforge (Copyright part). As long as Gameforge is having the License for NosTale in Europe I'll probably only use 3D Models from NosTale for creating Trailers or Artworks.


PS: @ I'd actually like to know from where you got the 3D Model of the Character, as far as I know the normal Characters are not 3D Objects, thought these were Pictures from 8 Sides of the Char.

What you can see is a statue not a character.

[m4x1k1nnq]

Originally Posted by SystemX64™

What you can see is a statue not a character.

Didn't notice, do you still have the ID of it? Would love to use it in a Trailer x)

[Cryless~]

Originally Posted by m4x1k1nnq

Didn't notice, do you still have the ID of it? Would love to use it in a Trailer x)

You can see it from the screenshot: 16779041

[mirko09]

Where can I download the 3d models of all SP?

[Beazel]

Originally Posted by mirko09

Where can I download the 3d models of all SP?

If you look a bit, you will see that the sp do not have a 3D shape but are 8 separate sides in images.