Metin2 p-server discords have a loophole (example: Aeldra)

[cyphersKitten]

So I just want to say that Metin2 p-server discords have a loophole, because anyone can take them down.
Like 2 weeks ago I reported the aeldra p-server discord for DMCA and I suppose today it was removed? Atleast that's what their website says


Also I have nothing against aeldra, but I just wanted to see if it works (for test purposes)
and in the end I noticed that anyone can fill a DMCA takedown and discord does not care if it is valid or not.

The only requirement: the dmca takedown must come from a company and there must be everything valid, address etc.

If you have questions feel free to ask me

[westkous]

nice job destroying other peopels work.
that kind of person i dont want in my frindship

[fun4yz]

can you tell me how you did it

[cypher]

Aeldra Discord ciao! Now you're taking over Jelfina work, hmmmmm.

#moved

[Moderate]

Sehe schon alle M2 DCs off gehen und wie die Leute wieder das gute alte Forum benützen

[ETF!!!?!]

Originally Posted by cypher

Aeldra Discord ciao! Now you're taking over Jelfina work, hmmmmm.

#moved

biased as always

[cypher]

Originally Posted by ETF!!!?!

biased as always

Why should I care about a server, that doesn't even have a presentation on our site? ^^

Apart from the high player numbers, the server is managed very badly and had a dupe bug anyway. It took a very long time until they realized that. But M2 server admins and players are generally very slow at detecting such destructive "game features".

[ETF!!!?!]

Originally Posted by cypher

Why should I care about a server, that doesn't even have a presentation on our site? ^^

Apart from the high player numbers, the server is managed very bad and had a dupe bug anyway. It took a very long time until they realized that. But M2 server admins and players are generally very slow at detecting such destructive "game features".

You are very delusional lol

[Razor7331]

Originally Posted by cypher

Why should I care about a server, that doesn't even have a presentation on our site? ^^

Apart from the high player numbers, the server is managed very bad and had a dupe bug anyway. It took a very long time until they realized that. But M2 server admins and players are generally very slow at detecting such destructive "game features".

Diese Sache wird sich auf alle Server auswirken, deswegen ist es sicherlich nicht etwas, worüber man sich als ein Moderator für epvp darüber freuen oder schadenfroh sein sollte. Metin2 Pserver Szene ist die Sektion, die epvp Leben gegeben hat- beide haben voneinander profitiert.

Außerdem zeugt deine Behauptung, dass Aeldra "bad managed" ist schlicht delusional. Auch wenn ich kein Aeldra spiele, weil mich das Konzept nicht anspricht ist Aeldra verdient auf Platz 1

[cypher]

Originally Posted by ETF!!!?!

You are very delusional lol

Can't help you if you're happy about playing on a server, where a few overpowered items were duplicated more than hundred times to be sold for real currency. Doesn't sound like fun to me when everybody has the same duplicated items. As a player I'd prefer a fair server without a dupe bug anytime. However..

Originally Posted by Razor7331

Diese Sache wird sich auf alle Server auswirken, deswegen ist es sicherlich nicht etwas, worüber man sich als ein Moderator für epvp darüber freuen oder schadenfroh sein sollte. Metin2 Pserver Szene ist die Sektion, die epvp Leben gegeben hat- beide haben voneinander profitiert.

Ich bin nicht schadenfroh, aber man kann immernoch self-hosted Lösungen für die Kommunikation nutzen. Das wäre ein Upgrade für die Szene. Sich an neue Umstände und Gegebenheiten anzupassen, ist was unsere Intelligenz auszeichnet. Wenn ich diesen Thread lösche, ist das Problem mit den DMCA claims nicht von der Welt...

[cyphersKitten]

Originally Posted by fun4yz

can you tell me how you did it

Why? If I would say how exactly I do it, then everyone would do it?
Then every Metin2 P-Server discord would be gone, I guess?

Aeldra banned my IP address after I reported their discord lul


but I wonder, how did they know that exactly this IP address reported them on discord?
Because it was a different IP, so I am confused why this one was choosen?

[Metin2.Zephyr]

Originally Posted by cypher

Why should I care about a server, that doesn't even have a presentation on our site? ^^

Apart from the high player numbers, the server is managed very badly and had a dupe bug anyway. It took a very long time until they realized that. But M2 server admins and players are generally very slow at detecting such destructive "game features".

As a player of sigma and aeldra i can tell you that you didnt really recognized anything of a dupe bug. Surely there was a player that was "better" in the first days, but you have to own the items you duped and that also take really much time for people that dont know aeldra well. Every dye and soul of truth which is needed for upgrading PvM jewelry and PvP Equipment +9 had a normal price in sigma and nothing was that cheap that you could see anything suspicious in there.

Besides the fact that the dupebug where in the Server since start the Server has a good Teamler for Quality Assurance who controls tradelogs and other stuff daily. Every player knows that it is impossible to sell your stuff on Aeldra that easily. And even if the player sold stuff, the Team could've checked the origin from different items which were sold and would recognize that there is something wrong with his stuff. Your statement is just false and everyone who plays on aeldra would agree with me. Im pretty sure that you dont play Aeldra, because it seems as if you have no clue about the team structure and anything which has to do with yang selling.

[cypher]

Originally Posted by Metin2.Zephyr

As a player of sigma and aeldra i can tell you that you didnt really recognized anything of a dupe bug. Surely there was a player that was "better" in the first days, but you have to own the items you duped and that also take really much time for people that dont know aeldra well. Every dye and soul of truth which is needed for upgrading PvM jewelry and PvP Equipment +9 had a normal price in sigma and nothing was that cheap that you could see anything suspicious in there.

Besides the fact that the dupebug where in the Server since start the Server has a good Teamler for Quality Assurance who controls tradelogs and other stuff daily. Every player knows that it is impossible to sell your stuff on Aeldra that easily. And even if the player sold stuff, the Team could've checked the origin from different items which were sold and would recognize that there is something wrong with his stuff. Your statement is just false and everyone who plays on aeldra would agree with me. Im pretty sure that you dont play Aeldra, because it seems as if you have no clue about the team structure and anything which has to do with yang selling.

I know Metin2 for 15 years now. Let's wait another 5-10 years. When the game has < 10k players globally, then we can talk openly about exploits and stuff. But the Aeldra development team knows very well, that there was a dupe bug. I'm not sure whether they know how it exactly works, but they managed to fix it after a few failed hot-fixes. ^^

And when it comes to selling ingame stuff for real currency: ask all the resellers how they do it. There are a few ways and you can't track all trading activity, especially not on a well-crowded server.

[MaxChri]

It's pretty easy to takeodown a discord server:



But keep in mind:

There are legal and financial consequences for fraudulent or bad faith submissions. Please confirm that you are the rights holder, or have the authority to act on the rights holder’s behalf, and that you understand the repercussions of submitting a false claim.

Anyway big companies will follow dmca reports straight to avoid fines.

If aeldra complains about the takedown, the server should be reactivated unless it's a real dmca e.g from Gameforge.

[xSpritzig]

Hoffe dein Kollege der von den Bullen besuch bekommen hat bekommt im Prozess die Höchsstrafe

vllt sollte man da auch bisschen nachhelfen und die staatsanwaltschaft mal die server historie von deinem kollegen senden (nur um zu sehen if it works)