The Order and the issue

[jemstone1]

Originally Posted by redjoker5

-Let me in the UG! I don't know jackshit about code but I can sure keep my mouth shut.

just on that. learn to code, why should they let you in if you have nothing to contribute? learn to code like the rest of us post a few and mabye then you can get it ;p me i like to keep em to myself :3

btw like my sig?

[redjoker5]

I am not gonna learn to code. I just don't find coding interesting enough to pick it up and definitely not interesting enough to get good at it. I am a graphics guy. I would love to help make GUI's for bots and stuff like that but code-wise I just mess around with dll using what little knowledge I got. And i don't expect to get in, *** knows they just want coders so we can all laugh when something like this happens again with the next one that goes on a rage. But it doesn't hurt to try.

[Checkbox]

If you're not going to actively create your own works, then generally your best bet is to become a good friend of someone who either does create their own works or have connection to those who do.

While saying that you are a cool guy who doesn't leak should have merit, to most people, you are a complete stranger. There really isn't much weight to your promise not to distribute. I have shared works with people who have no idea on how to mod, those are people that I have dealt with for a significant amount of time and provided an impression that they weren't going to be morons with what I give them. There was a significant amount of time for trust to develop and certainly, they weren't looking for anything out of me.

Of course, I also dealt with people who received my works off the basis they said they wouldn't distribute. Now I have a retarded situation with my collection of mods floating about. I'm not saying that will be the same for you, but generally, people don't like taking unnecessary risks.

[redjoker5]

Well I know what my morals are and what I believe on. I would love to get a chance to prove myself with someone. But I doubt a random coder is gonna look at me and say "hmmm I'm gonna see if he is trustworthy so he can leech off my work".

I am just a guy that wants to get the most out of the game he plays. I have a guild I love, a best friend and a cousin who play with me, and that's all I really need. If mods were easy to make I would get past my dislike for coding and I would learn some stuff. But they are not. So I just lurk around here trying to give my 2 cents wherever I can so people don't call me a leech just because I can't make stuff like they can.

[Checkbox]

Your best chance if you want to prove yourself is just to interact with those involved in modding ingame. Ruiari is ridiculously full of people who share. The fact everyone refers to each other by first name shows that Ruiari players are excessively friendly.

You won't get very far lurking around here nor should there be expectations to. Anything decent tends to be produced outside of the public community with public exposure caused by leaks.

Another way to look at it, Fantasia's source has been available for several months now and the only person who has done anything publically with it is Tyne.

Let me tell you one thing though, this is important so listen up- You don't have to be a coder to have value to those involved in modding. There are those who are exceptional at information gathering and for groups who already have coders, those who are capable of acquiring information that hasn't hit public knowledge are considered to be an indispensable asset.

For example, the range mod is stupidly simple. Knowing that there was a range mod was the hard part. The exploit itself existed for years. It's now just another of the exploits NA Mabi destroyed for the rest of the world.

[redjoker5]

Maybe you could name me a few people. I play in Tarlach and I doubt if I go around Ruiari asking "Where the modders at?" that I am gonna go very far. I don't really know anyone there. :/

[Checkbox]

No point. Just be a cool guy with everyone and you're bound to meet someone who shares mods.

[redjoker5]

I will try that. But then again I don't want mods just handed to me. I would be more comfortable helping someone out some way or some **** or them teaching me how they do some mods. For example the 100% enchant I have been trying to make myself for months, if someone handed me the dll I would probably either not accept it or just study it till I can find the mod and then I can copy it over to my own dll. Just to learn something from it. But who knows I'll see who I meet around the server. Thanks for the help.

[Udoo]

Hell yeah something is planned for 2010. Like the release of my new 100% weaving mod. Jussayin'

[redjoker5]

Nice. Would be badass if you could also pick what type of fabric/silk you get when you loom but I know that is impossible.

[adam_j]

Inb4 weaving is proved serverside.

[fenrir2037]

I has a char on tarlach.....

[shzukahime]

Im on Mari o 3o

[skititlez]

mari ftw we lost ch 6 YAY!

[shzukahime]

Its back now >:3