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Old 02/03/2012, 06:14   #16
 
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I don't know what you mean by "too much" and "to avoid spikes"
If you have windows vista/7, you only need to lower MTU while loading into a channel, anytime after that return it to 1500, and you'll have the effects of MTU at 48, with no side effects because you returned to 1500...


Lol AOL? it's been ages since I remember getting those AOL disks they used to send in the mail every month... still have a stack of them...
Aol was very slow and unreliable, from what I've heard about it...


Wow, this is nice... includes a prompt for easier customizing...
That's above my knowledge to write... but I can understand it at least xD
Just a note, if you're telling people to use that, you might want to add a line for "Wireless Network Connection" as well, because WiFi is getting a lot more popular these days. I for one use wifi, and not wired, so your script would have done nothing for me, despite being nicely written ^^;
Also, this script is optimal for compatibility, but to make it safer for average users, on Vista/7, you'd probably want to set it as "active" instead of "persistent" so any issues with MTU could be remedied with a reboot.


I don't know if you just misunderstood me or something, but Mabiwiki suggests 368 for WinXP and anything before Vista, because they couldn't handle dynamic MTU editing. 368 allows for most of the benefits of reduced MTU, with less loading time sacrificed for it.
On the other hand, Win Vista/7 can change MTU at any time. This means you load the lowest possible MTU, (I chose 48, instead of 40, to be safe), connect to the world, and after the loading bar is done, immediately change back to the highest/default, which gets rid of the side effects of slow pet loading, or slow npcs.
As for 48 vs 368, theres a tiny difference, and it's only practical with Vista/7. If you have Vista/7, it doesn't matter how much it slows you down, since it'll only last ~5 seconds as the world loads and then you can change it back and continue normal play.


Not sure if it was the MTU or Mabinogi is being amazingly fast today.
If you set it to 1500, and it went faster, I don't know how that's possible, unless you were lucky enough to just get an hour or so of amazing connection... o.O
lol aol itself is slow and unreliable but hey if you have no other options there is one. I was going through old posts from years ago I had and that was mentioned if you need aol it can be downloaded from there website.
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Old 02/03/2012, 11:27   #17
 
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I don't know what you mean by "too much" and "to avoid spikes"
If you have windows vista/7, you only need to lower MTU while loading into a channel, anytime after that return it to 1500, and you'll have the effects of MTU at 48, with no side effects because you returned to 1500...
You actually do receive effects from setting it to 48 and if you don't have a decent computer and connection you will get massive spikes.
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... I don't know if you're just playing stupid to irritate me, or if you really don't get it, but you get effects if you STAY CONSTANTLY at 48. If you CHANGE BACK TO 1500 after channel loads, then the negative effects will be GONE

VERY FEW people could possibly run ANYTHING at a suicidally low MTU like 48 with anything but Infuriating and Deadly side effects. And if anybody has a connection + computer that good, they don't need to worry about MTU. Ever.

From what I've seen you say/post, I assumed you knew at least that much.
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Old 02/07/2012, 03:03   #19
 
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... I don't know if you're just playing stupid to irritate me, or if you really don't get it, but you get effects if you STAY CONSTANTLY at 48. If you CHANGE BACK TO 1500 after channel loads, then the negative effects will be GONE

VERY FEW people could possibly run ANYTHING at a suicidally low MTU like 48 with anything but Infuriating and Deadly side effects. And if anybody has a connection + computer that good, they don't need to worry about MTU. Ever.

From what I've seen you say/post, I assumed you knew at least that much.
Kirby... *Sigh*

Anyways, here's some Candy for everyone.

If your internet interface has a name different from default--for whatever the reason--these won't work.

I don't recommend going lower than 48 on WiFi... Reason being, WiFi has more latency than cable, and it can build up depending on distance from routher(i.e. connectivity//interference). Even on a 100ft ethernet cable, I seemed to be getting a worse response from the WiFi connection. But well, you can calculate that if you want.

Also, if you're going to run the "Will it Work" at 28, make sure you don't have any other programs using the internet in the background. You'll get random lag spikes, and such... By "any," I mean... Any of those "Update" processes that you don't notice unless you open up Task Manager//Or Equivalent could 'cause you lag spikes.

Finally, remember latency is extremely dependant on locality, and how your ISP manages the connection, so... I'm tired of typing. Take the files. TAKE THEM.

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Don't remember the specifics, but i seem to recall something mentioned about forwardbuffermemory and tcpwindowsize, are those significant changes?
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Old 02/10/2012, 01:12   #21
 
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*Sigh* I'll admit I was a little irritated, by other things in life, and I didn't think through what I was saying.

I'm no programmer, I'm no tech genius. I know as much as I find out myself through first-hand experience. I've just had a lot of experiences.

I don't know in detail how MTU changes affect Mabi.

From what you've said, you can get lag spikes even after changing back to normal MTU?
It's never happened to me, and my ISP + Router (not to mention my laptop) are crap--but I swap my MTU every time I play mabi, so I assumed that wasn't the case.
But if I was wrong, sorry for raging at you, Jas, sorry for frustrating you Nogile.

Also, thanks Nogile, I didn't even know MTU could be set below 40. I've got something new to try out now~

If somebody has changed their interface name from the default, I'd assume they have a reason, and I also assume that they do not need help from this newbie.
Edit: Sorry, before I am misunderstood, by newbie, I was referring to myself.
Edit 2: Tested, I can't connect to a channel with MTU any lower than 48.

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... forwardbuffermemory and tcpwindowsize, are those significant changes?
If you mean significant as in mabikillinglag --> pro-connection, then no.
If you mean will it improve your game, then it might help a little, but you might not even notice it.
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