Common Farming Builds

[kalvam]

As of lately there is a huge influx in new folks asking the same things again and again so i'm making this thread. The purpose of this thread is to concentrate all the farming builds into one single thread. Add more builds if you feel like. However i'm not going into detail, figure those out... yourself. The key rule to be an effective farmer is to understand your build. I'm using the quotes to structure things.

Warrior

The Warrior is basically the king of the farming hill. No second class can farm such a wide variety of enemies as effectively as the warrior. Therefore, the builds are plentiful.


Warrior/X
A basic warrior is allready very effective in the means of farming. What he lacks in power to take on more than a small group of enemies, he makes up with a fast killing speed and a versatility uncompared.
Common farming Builds include:

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Riposte Build
Build to fight single high damage mobs and small medium damage mobs. This build is the bane of Wurms and Avicara.

Based upon the Swordline you will be bringing:

Deadly Riposte
Riposte
Dolyak Signet
Watch Yourself
Healing Signet
Bonettis Defense

Sprint

This is basically allready enough to farm those mobs, however you will sometimes run into trouble and you still did not use your Eliteslot. What about Skills like Gladiators Defense to boost the damage? Or what about VIM and some Condition Skills (Sever Artery and Gash) to boost up your Healing? And Hundred Blades isn't so bad to build up your Adrenaline for Riposte.

Favorite Spots: Mineral Springs (Southern Route), Dunes of Despair (Wurm Farming for Bleached Shells). Why Sprint? Because you'll want to avoid those annoying hammers and dwarves.

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Damage Spammer
This build is based upon the theory to spam many attack skills and be ready to spam them again. This build is quite good to farm smaller mobs of various mobs and kill them efficiently and fast. Think about Hydras. Bring your favorite Eliteskill for the weapon you'll be using. Eviscerate for Axe Warriors, Flourish for Swordies


Power Attack
Desperation Blow
Dolyak Signet
Watch Yourself
Healing Signet
+ Your chosen Skills

Never use Desperation Blow without first firing your Dolyak Signet. This way you'll get a nice +50 Damage Boost + a condition with no down sides to it. Sounds quite good, doesn't it? The way to farm things with this thing is to run up to them, fire all your defenses and mown them down. Switch targets, rinse... repeat. You won't need your healing signet most of the times as this thing will be killing fast.

Favorite Spots: Hydras (No matter which), Drakes + Dryders near Ember Light Camp Never let your energy go above >50% and the Dryders will NOT hurt you. If you do, their shadow strikes will bring you below 50% and they will stop using skills... funny to farm mobs that only attack with their "wands" which your rune and armor will easily absorb completely. Ettins in NPK (if you do so, bring an interrupt)

After those generic builds...

Warrior/Monk
The famous, and the hated. Your typical Warrior/Monk is the fastest and most efficient way to kill huge mobs of enemies that lack enchantment removal. Most Warrior/Monk Builds are based upon the powerful healing effect of Vigorous Spirit + Live Vicariously in combination with a Cyclone Axe or Hundred Blades. So let's start with the basic beginners build:

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Healspammer (Beginners Version)
What this thing basically does is grant you an insane amount of healing powerful enough to take on larger mobs of enemies. However, your power will dwindle with each enemy dead. So most of the time you kill the large mobs fast and will have to fight a few smaller ones the hard way. However, this is the beginners version and you'll have plenty of safety nets. Keep your Healing Prayers above 10, put the rest into your normal skills.

Cyclone Axe or Hundred Blades (if you use HB, be sure to know a dime about kiting)
Vigorous Spirit
Live Vicariously
Healing Hands
Bonettis Defense
Dolyak Signet
Healing Signet
Healing Breeze

As soon as you prepare for combat fire up Live Vicariously and Healing Breeze. Then lure as MUCH MOBS AS POSSIBLE. Don't be affraid to take on 20 or more enemies, you'll survive. As soon as you notice the first mobs dropping the chase stand still at once. Fire up Dolyak Signet, Vigorous Spirit and then do an Axe Cyclone followed by a bonettis defense. From then on, do not cast ANYTHING without Bonettis Defense active. Why that? Because most mobs have some sort of interrupt. However if they DO interrupt you, your Healing Hands Elite will keep you standing long enough to recover. So do not waste it. As soon as your health drops low fire up your cyclone Axe and keep on fighting.

Favorite Spots: Everything? Mostly Griffons and Mountain Trolls though.

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Healspammer (Advanced Version)

So you've mastered your Spammer and want to be faster and more efficient? Good, this one is for you. We will correct the overhealing from the build before and replace it with something that adds damage. This could be Gladiators Defense as an Elite or even better... Shield of Judgement.
So, re-allocate your stats to have atleast 10 in Healing and 10 in Smiting Prayers. Don't be affraid to lower your strength attribute. You won't be needing it too much. Keep your weapon Attribute high though and... don't be affraid to use superior weapon runes and a few major runes. Unlike most think, high hitpoints are NOT needed for farming.

So you've made up your stats?
Here is your build:

Shield of Judgement
Cyclone Axe
Vigorous Spirit
Live Vicariously
Dolyak Signet

Bonettis Defense
Strength of Honor
Judges Insight

Its basically the same as the normal healspammer, but you need to time your spells a bit better and please... NEVER cast anything without activating your defense first. This way you Cyclone won't only heal you, but do 4 times as much damage as before (about 40-50 to adjacent foes). And on top of that, anyone hitting you will take heavy amounts of damage.

Favorite Spots: Mountain Trolls, Griffons, Any kind of Undead

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Warrior/Mesmer
Quite a newcomer in the farming business. This one is for the IDS and Fissure Farmers. You'll need semi decent equipment (don't start without Max AL, a stance shield and a major absorption!). The skills you take mostly depend upon your favorite flavor. You will need a basic skillset though... this one:

Dolyak Signet
Watch Yourself
Physical OR Elemental Resistence (Depening upon WHAT you want to farm)
Healing Signet
Bonettis Defense

If you've got a zealous mod for your weapon you won't be needing Bonettis Defense. This thing is just very heavy on the defense side. Against the mob you are planning to fight you'll be almost invincible. (For example even an AATXE will only hit you for about 10-20 Damage... unless you activate your Healing Signet... well and the ripostes will kill you, so no Aatxe Farming this way). The use is as simple as it can get... use defenses, heal with your signet and else just bash away.

Favorite Spots: Fissure of Woe (killing Snarling Driftwoods and Spiders), Ice imps in the cave of Lyssa.

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Warrior/Ranger
This is not the most favorite of farmers, but can be even faster than a Warrior/Monk if done right. You'll be working a lot with conditions and sneaky tactics.

I'm just giving you one example...

Victory is Mine
Apply Poison
Cyclone Axe

Troll Unguent
Bonettis Defense
Edge of Extinction
Predatory Season
Antidote Signet

With this thing you'll be farming the Grawls near Droknar like no tomorrow. Setup your spirits where they won't take hits. Then engage as many mobs as possible, apply your poison and poison them all at once. Due to predatory season your Cyclone Axe will give you a healboost, similiar to the one the Healspammer gave you. And to boost healing even more, firing Victory is Mine will result in full health. Just keep on Cyclone Axing them with your poison up. As soon as one of them dies, they'll ALL die at once (thanks to Edge of Extinction).

Warrior/Necromancer
I haven't played a Warrior/Necromancer Farmer yet, but i'm quite sure he can do some major havoc by using Spiteful Spirit and Enfeebling Blood on top of his normal attack skills.

Warrior/Elementalist
Well... i'm not quite sure, the only use i could think of is to stack up on defenses and then fuel your damage with Bonettis Defense.

Thats it for the warriors...

Monks and other 55 hp Platforms

Monks were never really the farmers... until someone discovered the true power behind a damage reduction based upon percentages. Nowadays the Monk is one of the most powerful farmers. The basic build for almost every Monkfarmer is the 55 Hitpoint Platform. In order to achieve this, you will need some basic equipment:

A full (!) Stack on Superior Runes applied (Without Vigor). Even if multiple Runes won't stack, the penalty will. So with all your runes applied you will have 105 hitpoints. The next step is to acquire the Cities of Ascalon Cesta which will lower your health by -50. In order to get this item, you'll have to speak to Symon the Scribe in Ascalon.

Almost every 55 HP Platform is based upon the following Skills:


Protective Spirit
Mending
Healing Breeze
Balthazars Spirit and/or Essence Bond

These basic skills will be your life insurance. Be sure that none of which depletes at any given time or you're dead. When your protective spirit and your healing breeze runs out at the same time, cast Protective Spirit. Without your healing Breeze you can take on 10 direct hits. Without your spirit you're dead. DP actually helps you with this kind of build. The ideal hitpoints to have is 19. Due to the way Protective Spirit works. 19 hitpoints equal: 1 Damage taken, 19 hits until death with no regeneration used.
Speaking of Regeneration, there are a few things that will kill you dead in the tracks. DEGENERATION. If this gets high enough you're dead. The 55 HP Platform can barely handle the 3 pips of Bleeding, anything above and your health will dwindle.

There are about as much variations to the platforms as there are good monks out there. Like 10 or 12.

The most common ones either add Shield of Judgement for the damage, or bring Spellbreaker if they have a necromancer Sidekick with them.

Basically EVERY Class can do the 55 HP Dance, some more efficiently than others. The more efficient ones are: Monks (d'oh), Mesmers (Using Powerdrain and Sympathetic Visage -> Interrupting and draining while they tank the mob and mown it down with Illusionary Weaponry), Necromancers (Using Spiteful Spirit of course).

The way to play this platform is quite simple, yet takes some practice to learn. As soon as you've done so you can however effectively farm the Underworld, Titans and other Highlevel Mobs. That is until the 22.nd february when the next big nerf hammer is announced.

Necromancer

When a necromancer is not 55 HP Farming, you'll see him Minionmastering. As soon as the first mob is dead the Minionmaster will slowly create an army and steamroll his enemies. The more advanced version is the small or large minionfactory but requires the help of others. Basic Skills are:

Summon Bone Fiend
Veratas Sacrifice
Heal Area
Blood of the Master

Your Deathmagic Attribute has to be 16 in order for this to work. Your soulreaping should be high as well. An +15/-1 Energy Focus doesn't hurt either. I'll speak more about the minion factory later.

Summon your minions, keep them alive, steamroll the enemy.

Favorite Spots: North Kryta Province and every place that has some sort of animal in front of it (those green thingies you can quickly kill to get a corpse and get your army started).

Rangers

I've honestly never farmed as a ranger and thus do not know any builds. But i can imagine them mostly focussing around hit and run tactics, poisoning several enemies then killing one and starting the Edge of Extinction Chain Reaction.

Elementalist

When not 55 HP farming, the Elementalist is most probably a geomancer who stacked up on Defenses. I have never farmed as an elementalist either. So i can't say much but i've seen geomancer Tanks in Action to know they are quite powerful when being supported by other classes.

Mesmer

Go, choose another class O_o
Unless you are 55 HP Farming, you'll have a very very hard time inflicting sufficient damage and gaining enough health to stay alive at the same time.

Group Builds

Group Builds are highly efficient farming builds, focusses around supporting other classes so they can do their business much better. I've not much experience in group builds though.


Famous ones are:

Sorrows Furnace Minion Factory
Underworld Trapperteam


Perhaps someone who is doing these runs can add those? I can only guess and would be probably quite wrong with my guess.

[Maybe It's Maybelline]

Hit & Run farming as Ranger? What about no?
The most funniest thing on Ranger is that you can Farm with almost any kind of Skill combination. For Example
you could use Barrage and this Monk skill which heals you +** health including Arcane Echo/Tigers Fury. If you like
to mob mass of foes who include a high percent of ranged attacks then you could use That wirbel Aura, it does about 14 dmg on each near enemy just of one lazy Ranged attack, if you got now about 8 Archers and 8 Warrios on your front then every foe who is surround you, is for sure dead.

Yes Elemantarist with Geo attribute can have a pretty high defense and AOE attacks,
especially if you cast two skills who gives you about +110 Defense (Its just 8 seconds, but if you cast a spell then you have another 8 seconds left) you could make yourself then immune to magic and rock the **** outta mesmer based enemies.

[kalvam]

Kanns sein das du die letzte Zeit ein klein wenig "aggresiv" bist? Oo

Wie willst du Tigers Fury mit arkanem Echo kombinieren? Gibt keinen Sinn... Ersatzleben und energischer Geist? Brauchst kein Echo für. Ganz abgesehen davon das du wohl kaum eine Waldi/Mönch/Mesmer Kombination aufbieten kannst.

Wenn du einen zweiten Char mitnimmst wären wir wieder beim eigentlichen Thema...

Und Erdeles, klar haben sie viel Rüstung aber sind sehr anfällig gegenüber Unterbrecher und davon hat es sehr sehr viele in Tyria.

Aber anstatt mich bashen zu wollen, wie wärs mit Builds, wie es der Threadsinn war? Wenn der Sinn nicht gut ist, kannst natürlich den Thread auch einfach löschen.

[vladi]

just want to add some things.

it's possible to farm as a blood necro and quite easly, hard enemy's are groups of monks (smite hexes NOT NICE!) and mesmer/ranger groups (intterupts)

here's the build i use.

16 blood scar pattern + superior rune
11 soul reaping superior rune
rest goes in other attributes wich ones you like. i like inspiration to get my mana up

key skills to use:
life siphon
life transfer
unholy feast
vampiric gaze
vampiric touch
awaken the blood (not necesarly but with this you get life transfer up to 9 health degen )
if you know ur gonna face mesmers or rangers bring mantra of concentration (really nice )

other skills can be ur favorites to use. i like interuption skills and skills to keep my mana up (leech signet, energy tap)

when u use a 55 build i use essence bond and balth's spirit together (2 mana per hit on me)

group build: this one is mostly used for FoW and UW
55 monk who takes the hits and an N/Me with ss, sv and echo

actually you can farm as a mesmer. just use intteruption skills and domination magic. second class should be N or Mo to get ur health up. R is also possible but not really advisable.

[Maybe It's Maybelline]

Ich bin nicht agressiv, wie kommst du darauf? Ich wollte nur ein paar Sachen addieren. Wie du siehst war ein Slash zwischen Arkanes Echo/Tigers furry, das heißt einfach entweder oder, klar oder? Es ist hauptsächlich für Sperrfeuer gedacht. Inwiefern aufbieten? Ich habe einen W/E, W/Me und E/W (Wieso ich nur Waldis nehme ist mir bisher unbekannt...).
Das ist ja sinn der Sache, die skills bis auf die wo du vorhinein castet habe alle eine castlänge von nichtmal 1 Sekunde und bis deine Support skills auslaufen bist du schonlange feinraus aus der Sache. Ich glaube du willst mich gerade b4sh0Rn. O_o

[kalvam]

Hit & Run farming as Ranger? What about no?

Liest sich für mich sehr hochnäsig (als Beispiel) :P

Oki anders, ich seh einfach keinen Sinn für arkanes Echo bei einem Waldi. Arkanes Echo wirkt nur auf Zauber... welchen Zauber willst du ins arkane Echo nehmen? Jetzt klarer was ich meine?
Auch habe ich nicht verstanden warum Tigers Fury mit Sperrfeuer. Sperrfeuer hat einen Recharge von 1 Sekunde, Bögen haben eine langsamere Feuerrate, selbst mit Tigers Fury kommt man da doch nicht unter die 1 Sekunde Recharge von Barrage? Ich hätte Serpent's Quickness ja noch verstanden, aber Tigers Fury?
Davon ab sind beides Haltungen und stören deine Wirbelverteidigung. Deshalb hab ich nach einem Build gefragt weil sich da für mich keine Logik hinter erschließt.

[Maybe It's Maybelline]

Originally posted by kalvam@Feb 9 2006, 21:03

Liest sich für mich sehr hochnäsig (als Beispiel) :P

Oki anders, ich seh einfach keinen Sinn für arkanes Echo bei einem Waldi. Arkanes Echo wirkt nur auf Zauber... welchen Zauber willst du ins arkane Echo nehmen? Jetzt klarer was ich meine?
Auch habe ich nicht verstanden warum Tigers Fury mit Sperrfeuer. Sperrfeuer hat einen Recharge von 1 Sekunde, Bögen haben eine langsamere Feuerrate, selbst mit Tigers Fury kommt man da doch nicht unter die 1 Sekunde Recharge von Barrage? Ich hätte Serpent's Quickness ja noch verstanden, aber Tigers Fury?
Davon ab sind beides Haltungen und stören deine Wirbelverteidigung. Deshalb hab ich nach einem Build gefragt weil sich da für mich keine Logik hinter erschließt.

Barrage hat nen reload von 1 sekunde? Seit wann oO
Das nächste wäre auch ne andere Idee, ich denke du verwechselts viel.

Und nein es ist nicht hochnäßig, es gibt auch waldis die richtig farmen können,
sogar griffion runs ohne Monk als zweitklasse (Ich finds immer wieder lustig wenn
in anderen foren bei den waldis son thread aufgeht mit "OMG Ranger farming without being monk!" und dann monk als zweitklasse. Natürlich ist das alles nicht für Top gegner geignet aber für nen durchschnittlichen lohn reicht es auf alle fälle.

[kalvam]

Dann oh erhabene erleuchte mich mal und drück dich verständlich aus.
Gerade eben erzählst du da oben schön etwas von einem Waldi mit Tigers Fury oder arkanem echo. Als ich dich dann frag wofür zum Henker du da arkanes Echo benutzen willst kommt nur, sorry, hochnäsiges Geplapper am Thema vorbei, weiß nämlich immer noch nicht wofür du dein arkanes Echo da jetzt haben willst.

Zum Thema Barrage:


Und in den Updates kannst du nachlesen wann das geänder wurde (wurde es nicht).

Und ja, das nächste wäre eine andere Idee, weil Tigers Fury mit Barrage wiederum keinen Sinn ergibt. Barrage ist ein Skill. Tigers Fury beeinflusst aber Angriffstempo, nicht Skilltempo, das tut hingegen Serpents Quickness. Sag mir also bitte, erhabene, warum du da Tigers Fury reintust wenn es keinen Sinn macht.

->

you could use Barrage and this Monk skill which heals you +** health including Arcane Echo/Tigers Fury.

Also nochmal die einfache Bitte das zu erklären.

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Ach vergess es, mir nicht wichtig genug das Thema. Wenn du einen Build hast der zum eigentlich Thema beiträgt editier ich ihn gerne rein, ansonsten überles ich den Rest nun.

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Zum Thema edit... zickt die Editierfunktion ein wenig herum momentan? Würd ja zum Thread passen

[Maybe It's Maybelline]

Hochnäßiges geplapper am Thema vorbei? Sorry aber wenn
DU sagst das ein Ranger nicht richtig farmen könnte, dann ist das hochnäßig. Zum Arkanen Echo oder Wut des Tigers, villeicht habe ich daran vorbei 'geplappert' weil ich erkannt habe das dies unnütz war? (Immerhin tut Tigers Furry alle angriffsskills nachladen, soviel dazu) Ja, aber daran denkst du ja nichtmal im Traum, aber das kann man ja von einem hochnäßigen nicht erwarten oder? Sowie die ansicht das du wohl keine Kritik vertragen kannst, da du ja gerne alles überlesen willst was dich in einer Weise angreift. Ja? dann tust du mir einfach nur leid.

sperrfeuer
ersatzleben
balthasars geist
energischer geist

Mehr braucht man nicht.

[kalvam]

Jetzt muß ich ja doch wieder posten...
Sorry Marie, was soll das? Wieso verdrehst du hier die Worte? Glaubst du das es keiner merkt?

Rangers

I've honestly never farmed as a ranger and thus do not know any builds. But i can imagine them mostly focussing around hit and run tactics, poisoning several enemies then killing one and starting the Edge of Extinction Chain Reaction.

Machst du ein:

Sorry aber wenn
DU sagst das ein Ranger nicht richtig farmen könnte, dann ist das hochnäßig.

daraus. Ich weiß nicht ob es vielleicht am Englisch Verständnis hapert oder sonstwo... aber da steht ganz eindeutig das ich lediglich nicht mit einem Ranger gefarmed habe. Nicht das ein Ranger nicht farmen kann. Zum Thema arkanes Echo...

Wie du siehst war ein Slash zwischen Arkanes Echo/Tigers furry, das heißt einfach entweder oder, klar oder? Es ist hauptsächlich für Sperrfeuer gedacht.

Beißt sich doch ziemlich mit dieser Aussage hier:

Zum Arkanen Echo oder Wut des Tigers, villeicht habe ich daran vorbei 'geplappert' weil ich erkannt habe das dies unnütz war?

Zum Thema Tigers Fury und Skills nachladen:

Stance. All your non-attack skills are disabled for 5 seconds. For 5 seconds, you attack 33% faster.

Aber ist schon recht, weil wie du ja sagst...

ich denke du verwechselts viel.

Bisher hab ich nämlich nur gesehen das du bei Barrage die Recharge Zeit... nunja, genau getroffen hast. Das der Tigers Fury Skill... nunja... genau getroffen wurde und das gleiche bei arkanem Echo. *Ironie Schild wieder wegpack*.

Das sind lustigerweise genau die Skills über die wir hier gerade reden oder nicht? Ich hab doch nichtmal was gegen deine Barrage + Live Vicariously / Vigorous Spirit Kombo gesagt, nur das diese Skills dort in dem Zusammenhang keinen Sinn ergeben. Aber deine Posts, zusammen mit der Art wie sie geposted wurden lassen für mich halt keine andere Vermutung zu als die, welche ich getätigt habe.

Und nein, Kritik darfst du anbringen. Hast du bisher aber nicht im geringsten getan. Was gekommen sind, sind Angriffe aufgrund falscher Fakten und Wortverdrehungsaktionen. Deshalb habe ich gesagt das es sinnlos ist darüber weiter zu streiten weil es zu nichts führt. Aber sorry offensichtliche Wortverfälschung laß ich mir auch nicht gefallen.


In einem Punkt ist das Ziel wohl erreicht, der Thread ist ein Flamewar und kann somit gefahrlos geschlossen werden um einen Flächenbrand zu vermeiden. Vielleicht nimmt irgendwer anders die Arbeit nochmal auf da eine gesonderte Liste draus zu machen um ein wenig Ordnung reinzubringen.

[Moize]

Monks were never really the farmers... until someone discovered the true power behind a damage reduction based upon percentages. Nowadays the Monk is one of the most powerful farmers. The basic build for almost every Monkfarmer is the 55 Hitpoint Platform. In order to achieve this, you will need some basic equipment:

A full (!) Stack on Superior Runes applied (Without Vigor). Even if multiple Runes won't stack, the penalty will. So with all your runes applied you will have 105 hitpoints. The next step is to acquire the Cities of Ascalon Cesta which will lower your health by -50. In order to get this item, you'll have to speak to Symon the Scribe in Ascalon.

Almost every 55 HP Platform is based upon the following Skills:


Protective Spirit
Mending
Healing Breeze
Balthazars Spirit and/or Essence Bond

These basic skills will be your life insurance. Be sure that none of which depletes at any given time or you're dead. When your protective spirit and your healing breeze runs out at the same time, cast Protective Spirit. Without your healing Breeze you can take on 10 direct hits. Without your spirit you're dead. DP actually helps you with this kind of build. The ideal hitpoints to have is 19. Due to the way Protective Spirit works. 19 hitpoints equal: 1 Damage taken, 19 hits until death with no regeneration used.
Speaking of Regeneration, there are a few things that will kill you dead in the tracks. DEGENERATION. If this gets high enough you're dead. The 55 HP Platform can barely handle the 3 pips of Bleeding, anything above and your health will dwindle.

There are about as much variations to the platforms as there are good monks out there. Like 10 or 12.

The most common ones either add Shield of Judgement for the damage, or bring Spellbreaker if they have a necromancer Sidekick with them.

Basically EVERY Class can do the 55 HP Dance, some more efficiently than others. The more efficient ones are: Monks (d'oh), Mesmers (Using Powerdrain and Sympathetic Visage -> Interrupting and draining while they tank the mob and mown it down with Illusionary Weaponry), Necromancers (Using Spiteful Spirit of course).

The way to play this platform is quite simple, yet takes some practice to learn. As soon as you've done so you can however effectively farm the Underworld, Titans and other Highlevel Mobs. That is until the 22.nd february when the next big nerf hammer is announced.

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[monti]

Mädels bleibt doch mal locker ^^
Natürlich kann man mit einem Waldi farmen. Es gibt nicht so viele Möglichkeiten, aber da wären z.b. die Untoten bei den Toren von Kryta. Mithilfe von Oink, Sperrfeuer und dem Einblick des Richters kann man die recht leicht umlegen. Alternativ kann man auch eine Flammenbeschwörung nehmen, wenn man nicht Mönch als 2. Klasse haben will