[PAID + FREE] FIFA 17 99ovr trainer by nepgax4o

[nepgax4o]

Originally Posted by fzr900

players losing stamina very fastn

depends ... some players doesnt get 99 stamina ... you can check your attributes

[yjaing19]

would u plz make a trainer that we can choose the attribute we want? I mean if I just wanna my player have 99 sho and 99 pass 90 speed, something like this. We can input the number by oursleves. That would be great!

[nepgax4o]

Originally Posted by yjaing19

would u plz make a trainer that we can choose the attribute we want? I mean if I just wanna my player have 99 sho and 99 pass 90 speed, something like this. We can input the number by oursleves. That would be great!

I can only change the 6 basic attributes - pace shot dribble etc ... stats like sprint speed, acceleration are automatically calculated (from pace for example)

[ocram59]

mmm i wonder how sprint speed and acceleration are calculated differently for each player...
In my understanding in the past, it should be the opposite.... Pace should be a sort of average calculated considering speed and acceleration specific of every card.

Otherwise.. all the player with the same speed state would have the same subvalues .. quite strange.. something is sure wrong in what I was thinking...


Some examples for cards with 93 pace

Walcott: 92 / 93
Sterling: 94 / 92
Musa: 95 / 92

All of them with a generic 93 pace but each one with own specific values

I wonder what happens in FIFA if you change 93 to 99 and how the corresponding values change

[ChopTheDawg]

Originally Posted by ocram59

mmm i wonder how sprint speed and acceleration are calculated differently for each player...
In my understanding in the past, it should be the opposite.... Pace should be a sort of average calculated considering speed and acceleration specific of every card.

Otherwise.. all the player with the same speed state would have the same subvalues .. quite strange.. something is sure wrong in what I was thinking...

Pace is acceleration*0,45 + sprint speed*0,55

[ocram59]

Originally Posted by ChopTheDawg

Pace is acceleration*0,45 + sprint speed*0,55

Ok so you confirm my feeling: Pace is the result of a formula using acceleration and sprint speed as input data

If a trainer changes the result of the formula .. who will care to apply the reverse of the formula to calculate the new values for sprint and acceleration?

And even a more important question... what value will be considered by FIFA when a player accelerates? Logic would say.... acceleration.. and not the generic pace value...
In other words.. a player accelerates with his acceleration up to his sprint speed ... correct?
If so... Pace should just be a cosmetic value...

Another point: Would it be so difficult for EA to check if Pace is not acceleration*0,45 + sprint speed*0,55 anymore?
They could easily detect trainers .. even client side....


I know that trainer gives an objective advantage to people using it but .. really hard to understand why....

[ChopTheDawg]

Originally Posted by ocram59

Ok so you confirm my feeling: Pace is the result of a formula using acceleration and sprint speed as input data

If a trainer changes the result of the formula .. who will care to apply the reverse of the formula to calculate the new values for sprint and acceleration?

And even a more important question... what value will be considered by FIFA when a player accelerates? Logic would say.... acceleration.. and not the generic pace value...
In other words.. a player accelerates with his acceleration up to his sprint speed ... correct?
If so... Pace should just be a cosmetic value...

Another point: Would it be so difficult for EA to check if Pace is not acceleration*0,45 + sprint speed*0,55 anymore?
They could easily detect trainers .. even client side....


I know that trainer gives an objective advantage to people using it but .. really hard to understand why....

The ingame stats are much more important than the card stats. The card stats are just calculations which show overall ability of a player in certain aspect. A player with very high finishing, but average long shots (his shooting stat will still be good) will be useful in the box, but it won't be smart to attempt long shots with him. It will change the way you use the player and you won't know how exactly the player will perform in a game unless you see his ingame stats.

And yeah, EA could easily detect cheaters, but they just don't care for the PC version, because it makes them much less money and there aren't that many cheaters on console. But they have been changing some stuff as you can see, people who use trainers have received warnings and many people were banned, so I think they realized how many cheaters there are.

[ocram59]

Originally Posted by ChopTheDawg

The ingame stats are much more important than the card stats. The card stats are just calculations which show overall ability of a player in certain aspect. A player with very high finishing, but average long shots (his shooting stat will still be good) will be useful in the box, but it won't be smart to attempt long shots with him. It will change the way you use the player and you won't know how exactly the player will perform in a game unless you see his ingame stats.

And yeah, EA could easily detect cheaters, but they just don't care for the PC version, because it makes them much less money and there aren't that many cheaters on console. But they have been changing some stuff as you can see, people who use trainers have received warnings and many people were banned, so I think they realized how many cheaters there are.

Thanks for your explanation, I agree with that.
But It still does not explain why you get advantage using a trainer that changes ONLY the card stats
This is the point that I cannot understand:
The trainer changes only 6 card stats, how can it result in any advantage if ingame stats are not changed?

[ChopTheDawg]

Originally Posted by ocram59

Thanks for your explanation, I agree with that.
But It still does not explain why you get advantage using a trainer that changes ONLY the card stats
This is the point that I cannot understand:
The trainer changes only 6 card stats, how can it result in any advantage if ingame stats are not changed?

That's interesting, I've been wondering about that aswell.

[mkhaizni1425]

nepgaxbg(his Origin ID) has been removed from the ranking this week he had 22 wins. His cheat is detectable, suck it cheaters !

[ChopTheDawg]

Originally Posted by mkhaizni1425

nepgaxbg(his Origin ID) has been removed from the ranking this week he had 22 wins. His cheat is detectable, suck it cheaters !

I knew it from the start.

[marcoj]

I've been warned from EA today. Been playing FUT Champions, but mostly used the win hack.. Think i'll try to only use this for draft.


I would love to request a feature if that's possible, can you make the goals for the home/away team random but atleast above 3? Since I win every game with 5 goals which is kinda obvious

[thenoddingone]

UNDETECTABLE LOL!

[fzr900]

Got my first warning. because i played on FUT champions.

[CR910]

Originally Posted by fzr900

Got my first warning. because i played on FUT champions.

what the text your warning??