EO dying?

IceQueen[PM] · 07/10/2015, 23:13

Hey all!

It's been a while I know, but I've been toying with the idea of opening a new server, guess I'm a glutton for punishment.

Any good server files out there I can have a play with? See what we can come up with. Or is there really any point as it seems EO is dead or dying.....

Thanks

Ice

SoulNecturn · 07/11/2015, 12:24

True looks like this....
TQ generally is not doing anything to promote even little this game anymore... not releasing anything special on official server (not talking about Chinese one) and simply slowly since year or more is being forgotten.. very few new players even find out this game on net... so very small amount new players arriving.. old players getting bored as getting old ... simple... As well now summer arrived so many players giving less time on games at all ...

Lets be honest
EO is not young ...
still I am sure if proper promo would be made, proper attractions provided - players would be found...

So I am even thinking about making some action for Promo from players side - if official serv is giving up in this...

So if you wish to make new serv with players - players must be attracted to this game generally at first... I hope Eo section will get more interest under this... some ideas for promo/ads etc would be good

no_1 · 07/12/2015, 10:17

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Originally Posted by SoulNecturn

True looks like this....
TQ generally is not doing anything to promote even little this game anymore... not releasing anything special

Lets be honest
EO is not young ...
still I am sure if proper promo would be made, proper attractions provided - players would be found...

I doubt that promo would do the trick... like your already mention EO is not young.
If you look at the thing that are being released on this forum it very low.
There are very few expericed members who create or release new items to keep our server fresh.

Like you always said to me soul there is alot in the client and server files that we dont use or know of... you just have to find it and use it.

Regards SweetCandy

Venus Rising · 08/03/2015, 23:00

They got too money hungry. We all remember back when this game started, when it was challenging but doable without spending half your paycheck on it every month. Unfortunately, the money they make from doesn't seem to be going back into it. We need more solid private servers, because TQ dropped the ball long ago and it doesn't seem like they're going to be picking it back up any time soon. I hope you decide to try again. This cult following needs more dedicated people making this game into what it should have always been.

DEADP00L · 08/05/2015, 06:57

I toyed with the idea of starting a server again as well however i decided untill we can get all the files we need to completely revamp it its not worth it. the monsters are always the same old same old and just get stale. the most we can do is cosmetic or add something from other TQ games and again that is stale. True devlopers like soul and no_1 do what they can to keep it fresh but lets face it, our hands are pretty much tied. If we were able to design our own mobs and stuff that would be one thing but untill then our hands are tied and EO will continue to die out.

. Joker . · 08/13/2015, 03:44

Its not a matter of "not having access to certain files" Isnt that why we make servers? to make our own things? Its just a matter of knowing what players want in a server. If you can obtain the right balance of things youll have a steady player base.

stedabest321 · 08/15/2015, 01:24

When people dont even want to play original EO, how can you expect them to play privates, End of the day EO is dying its a fact, people dont want to play a game so old as this anymore, people move on to new games. We enjoy hosting them and maintaining them, but players just get bored of the limitation on quests, items and so on, Like we cant even add the correct effects to pets, so Pservers are SO out dated these days, hopefully EO will release there database one day, but i highly doubt it :P

dbraggs123 · 08/17/2015, 21:12

Well I have been saying all along that People who made easy servers are the ones killing it. After players get 15k BP and kill everyone else on the server they get board. then go out side to play. And so poof there gone for good. I think make a server with just only gold and see what happens no eps normal composing. with all pets and mounts you will see a lot of people jump on that. Any way good luck to all. Peace out

stedabest321 · 08/18/2015, 03:14

If players wanted to play a server where its just gold, or a server that hard, where you actually have to work hard to play, then they would go and play the official server lol, theres a reason people play Pservers, because its easy

Venus Rising · 08/18/2015, 05:10

I disagree. Some of us like the feel of the OLD eo, the way TQ was before they got money hungry and ruined the game so many years ago. I haven't played retail in many many moons, but you know what? I'm sick of all the same cookie-cutter high-rate servers where the donors rule and new players have to try desperately to catch up to 22k* pets in an arena where they'll never truly have a chance unless they can buy their strength with a respectable amount of hard earned cash. How is that different from TQ? Please, tell me, because I'd love to hear what you have to say. At the end of the day, it's the same darn thing in my eyes. I want to play somewhere that I can earn what I get and be on a level playing field even though I can't throw hundreds of dollars at this game. And you know what? That's ok, and I don't think I'm alone in feeling this way. I don't see anything wrong with wanting the old eo back, without all the hell of trying to compete so hard with people who can put a car payment into the game every two weeks. Yes, it is easier, considerably in most cases, even on the most hardcore servers. On the best servers, you have to invest something even more important and valuable than money: time. You have to work for what you want and no one person can drop a wad of cash to make all of your hard work meaningless. It's difficult, but it's not impossible, and that's the point. THAT is was GOOD eo is all about.

. Joker . · 08/18/2015, 05:22

In all honesty, the ability to pay your way shouldnt even be an option in this community, it ruins it, but i guess thats just my opinion. Regardless as for hardstyle servers, lets take demons as an example here. They are one of the hardest servers youll play, no i dont mean it in a harsh way, you have to put time in effort in no matter what you donate for. Just like venus stated, servers with caps of 22k* and drastically changing stats ruins the base of eo. It gives people the mindset that this is what eo is, when it truly isnt. Thus making it harder for those trying to make a balance game platform. As for easier? and not being like TQ? some of your donation prices are worse than TQ, ill just put that out there for a minute. TQ has been open for 10 years, if not more. not a single player is over 10k bp.

Its a game, not a weekly bill.

DEADP00L · 08/19/2015, 18:16

valid points however we are limited to what we can add as developers. If we had all the software TQ has you can bet that there would be a larger diveristy of servers. Some would keep the classic EO style, some would branch off and make thier own style. Unlike most game development such as Maplestory us here with EO are kinda stuck. Maple story has so many forks it aint funny, some of them suck more than your local hooker others are **** good. All we get are incomplete databases that we then have to pray we can edit the hell out of to get it to work properly then add what little we can being restricted. Would I love us to be able to develope our own maps from scratch or our own pets, armors and the such.. Hell yeah. Just think what the development community would be like if we had that!!

Kalrasha · 08/28/2015, 22:29

I am with DP on this one I would love to add custom items and pets into the game but sadly there is no way yet.

SoulNecturn · 08/29/2015, 10:47

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Would I love us to be able to develope our own maps from scratch or our own pets, armors and the such.. Hell yeah. Just think what the development community would be like if we had that!!

Actually with this I cant agree.
First - there are loads and more maps released by TQ - hard to even use all of them.. always big range of choice have... and if need to add own stuff inside map can be done via npcs/effects etc... so this part is not needed to create own - in my opinion of course

Second - develope own pets/armors and such...
that is possible if you will wish and have time and learn how to ...
check this:

or check this guide in pdf:

Since long time on force many could learn how to edit and even make own stuff into EO ... case is not many got interested and did this ... but way is ...

True that we are limited to binary server files... and besides Edits and some injections we are limited with this part - well at least we get back to 2006-2007 version for which we have source code - but it require more then loads of work to make something good from it that many simply leaving it after some time ...

What I Still believe
EO very much faded and mostly because old players losing interest and simply only few new players appearing - lets be honest for me it looks like official eo gave up on his out of china servers - no promo, little updates and only loads of unhappy players...

I believe EO wont die easly as always will be someoene wishing to play it BUT case is EO will be visible as Living game Only when population will get back - as this in my view is the case mostly now.

stedabest321 · 08/31/2015, 00:41

Okay so i can see the 22k star limit is aimed at DOD, Now what i will say is, What is different between a server that has 5 star mark per compose so 20 composes per star, then with a star limit of 900 or so, To our server, where the star limit is 22k, with 4-5 stars per compose, its just the same, the same amount of composes and what not.

There is no difference, Now unless you had a star limit of say 22k and a compose rate of 4-5 star mark, and sold max star pets and a low price, yes this is a pure donor server, But on DOD i have seen people compose a max pet with in 2-3 days, not straight a few hours a day. Eps is easy to get so there for the composing is just as easy to do. and besides lets admit, EO isnt a gold mine and server bills need to be paid, 100% of all our donations go to the up keep of DOD so why is that an issue too. I dont understand why people get upset about servers costing money to get rare stuff, the end of the day we provide a server for people to play, same as demons online and other servers too, Just because they make a way for people to donate to keep the server up why is that bad? would people rather the server just be up for a month or 2 because DDOS protected servers can get pricey. if you add it up over 2-3 years you will respect the reason we have donation items, just like any other server. If you have seen any server that dosnt offer donation items ( A donation free server ) you will realize they dont usually last long, simply because the owner gets sick of paying the bills out of his pocket, if we just ask people to donate out of the kindness of there hearts not many people are going to donate lol. Try it and you will see

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