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undetected vs undetected??? Please help
Discussion on undetected vs undetected??? Please help within the Escape from Tarkov forum part of the Popular Games category.
09/02/2025, 23:07
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undetected vs undetected??? Please help
Hello there people; I am making this thread because it is seemingly impossible to find an actual answer on this. I started cheating in Tarkov about 2 months ago. Started with NEXTCHEAT for about a week before the spoofer was detected and my account was banned. I then switched to Kernaim and lasted about a week as well but stopped using them due to their UI having issues and being unreliable. Now here's my question. How can NEXTCHEAT be listed as undetected when its $27 a week but I see many DMA cheats saying the same ****; we are "undetected". But then they proceed to charge 5x as much.
I want to know WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. If ones undetected and the other is undetected why would I pay x5 the amount of money. Will my account last 5x as long?
I just want a cheat that will ******* work. Been going thru accounts like candy and I just don't understand what I am doing wrong or if these are even undetected. You would think that a undetected cheat wouldn't be getting me banned in a week. Some of my accounts being banned have worse stats then my legit main account, which makes no sense.
Does anyone have any recommendations of an actual UNDETECTED cheat I can play on for months and not worry. I'm not even trying to rage hack.
Also is ********* legit? Seen many people vouching for them getting banned.
I will pay actual money to someone who gives me credible info to stop my accounts from being nuked; Thanks again.
Also if anyone has information on what they flag specifically when looking to avoid manual bans. And how do I know if my ban is manual or not?
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09/03/2025, 01:04
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Sad you're having technical issues with Kernaim, it's one of the best public option
Have you tried reaching out to their support?
What other cheats have you tried?
You still have plenty of good cheats to test
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09/03/2025, 20:48
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Originally Posted by SwaggyLaggy
Hello there people; I am making this thread because it is seemingly impossible to find an actual answer on this. I started cheating in Tarkov about 2 months ago. Started with NEXTCHEAT for about a week before the spoofer was detected and my account was banned. I then switched to Kernaim and lasted about a week as well but stopped using them due to their UI having issues and being unreliable. Now here's my question. How can NEXTCHEAT be listed as undetected when its $27 a week but I see many DMA cheats saying the same shit; we are "undetected". But then they proceed to charge 5x as much.
I want to know WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. If ones undetected and the other is undetected why would I pay x5 the amount of money. Will my account last 5x as long?
I just want a cheat that will fucking work. Been going thru accounts like candy and I just don't understand what I am doing wrong or if these are even undetected. You would think that a undetected cheat wouldn't be getting me banned in a week. Some of my accounts being banned have worse stats then my legit main account, which makes no sense.
Does anyone have any recommendations of an actual UNDETECTED cheat I can play on for months and not worry. I'm not even trying to rage hack.
Also is ********* legit? Seen many people vouching for them getting banned.
I will pay actual money to someone who gives me credible info to stop my accounts from being nuked; Thanks again.
Also if anyone has information on what they flag specifically when looking to avoid manual bans. And how do I know if my ban is manual or not?
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yea of course ********* is safe, no one has reported any AC bans lol. only a few accs have even been lost, and that's usually after 100+ hours of rage cheating. usually you get banned from killing streamers or BSG staff. use ESP only and you will literally never get banned.
EDIT; join the discord and you can see the "!leaderboard" command which shows the top 10 ********* users in terms of hours played. you can just ask around, the people at the top of the LB still aren't banned after nearly 200 hours of cheating.
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09/03/2025, 21:02
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Only tarkov cheat I’ve ever used was Vega, it was fun and I never got banned either. They sell it on their discord for crypto, Depshop resells them if you want to use a payment method other than crypto. He’s got a lot of other tarkov cheats he sells too if Vega isn’t for you.
One thing I should note is that Vega does not come with a spoofer, so if you’re hwid banned you’d need to pick up a separate spoofer. For spoofers I’d recommend reported.lol. I’d say it’s almost overkill if the only game you cheat/spoof for is tarkov, but it’s a very well made spoofer and easy to use. Good luck!
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09/03/2025, 22:09
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best cheat to use is chams plus, its outlasted every other provider out there, with over 3 whole years with not a single detection, and its easy to inject and has cool options, take a look
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09/03/2025, 22:22
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Originally Posted by TimedOut
best cheat to use is chams plus, its outlasted every other provider out there, with over 3 whole years with not a single detection, and its easy to inject and has cool options, take a look

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********* has more features, is external & is cheaper by a long shot. the only reason to choose something like this is the fact that it's been up for 3 years. ********* only stands at 1 year (but a very strong solid year of weekly updates, something you will NEVER see with any of these other products.)
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Originally Posted by SwaggyLaggy
Hello there people; I am making this thread because it is seemingly impossible to find an actual answer on this. I started cheating in Tarkov about 2 months ago. Started with NEXTCHEAT for about a week before the spoofer was detected and my account was banned. I then switched to Kernaim and lasted about a week as well but stopped using them due to their UI having issues and being unreliable. Now here's my question. How can NEXTCHEAT be listed as undetected when its $27 a week but I see many DMA cheats saying the same shit; we are "undetected". But then they proceed to charge 5x as much.
I want to know WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. If ones undetected and the other is undetected why would I pay x5 the amount of money. Will my account last 5x as long?
I just want a cheat that will fucking work. Been going thru accounts like candy and I just don't understand what I am doing wrong or if these are even undetected. You would think that a undetected cheat wouldn't be getting me banned in a week. Some of my accounts being banned have worse stats then my legit main account, which makes no sense.
Does anyone have any recommendations of an actual UNDETECTED cheat I can play on for months and not worry. I'm not even trying to rage hack.
Also is ********* legit? Seen many people vouching for them getting banned.
I will pay actual money to someone who gives me credible info to stop my accounts from being nuked; Thanks again.
Also if anyone has information on what they flag specifically when looking to avoid manual bans. And how do I know if my ban is manual or not?
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also my bad, I completely skipped over the last part of your post. honestly all you have to worry about with manual bans are quick repeated headshots across the entire raid (shooting body/legs/arms fixed my bans on arena completely) and killing streamers/bsg staff. you 100% want a cheat that can tell you if someone is a streamer or BSG staff. not too many people have profile info like this but ********* does. not sure which other products have this though. they removed the old way of determining if you got AC banned or manualled (if you got an email it was an AC ban iirc) now you can't really tell. you can extrapolate the information though, just consider what provider you're using & how you've been playing in your raids. there's always the chance a streamer doesn't get detected by the API and you kill them just a bit too suspiciously and get banned soon after. killing these streamers/bsg staff will usually result in a same-day or next day ban. had it happen a bunch, raged against a sherpa on arena? banned next day. killed a streamer who was live on twitch? banned same day. got 104 kills in last hero on arena? banned same day. just watch how you play and keep in mind your provider and consider if they care about their software & users. a lot of these providers just don't care and you'll likely never even talk to them. find cheats that are sold by the developers themselves, avoid mass resold stuff (next eft). just think about it, the more people using the cheat the higher chance of BE catching on to that product and deciding to target it. that's pretty much how BE works, they find the cheats being used the most and get targeted, now that provider is no longer trustable. stick to lowkey communities with developers who are actively developing their product. avoid things that only update for patch and never change anything else otherwise.
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09/05/2025, 08:52
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Originally Posted by chamsquaddelta
also my bad, I completely skipped over the last part of your post. honestly all you have to worry about with manual bans are quick repeated headshots across the entire raid (shooting body/legs/arms fixed my bans on arena completely) and killing streamers/bsg staff. you 100% want a cheat that can tell you if someone is a streamer or BSG staff. not too many people have profile info like this but ********* does. not sure which other products have this though. they removed the old way of determining if you got AC banned or manualled (if you got an email it was an AC ban iirc) now you can't really tell. you can extrapolate the information though, just consider what provider you're using & how you've been playing in your raids. there's always the chance a streamer doesn't get detected by the API and you kill them just a bit too suspiciously and get banned soon after. killing these streamers/bsg staff will usually result in a same-day or next day ban. had it happen a bunch, raged against a sherpa on arena? banned next day. killed a streamer who was live on twitch? banned same day. got 104 kills in last hero on arena? banned same day. just watch how you play and keep in mind your provider and consider if they care about their software & users. a lot of these providers just don't care and you'll likely never even talk to them. find cheats that are sold by the developers themselves, avoid mass resold stuff (next eft). just think about it, the more people using the cheat the higher chance of BE catching on to that product and deciding to target it. that's pretty much how BE works, they find the cheats being used the most and get targeted, now that provider is no longer trustable. stick to lowkey communities with developers who are actively developing their product. avoid things that only update for patch and never change anything else otherwise.
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If that were grammatically correct, it would be the best post from you since you appeared. You literally scraped the last 4–5 posts from the ‘ban data collection’ topic on UC. You copied the same points another dev made about how BE targets cheats. Congrats, GigaChams!
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09/05/2025, 09:22
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EFT is cooked Nikita call EAC asap
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09/05/2025, 12:09
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Originally Posted by perdah4o
If that were grammatically correct, it would be the best post from you since you appeared. You literally scraped the last 4–5 posts from the ‘ban data collection’ topic on UC. You copied the same points another dev made about how BE targets cheats. Congrats, GigaChams!
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use context clues to determine that I was the one who posted the "arena stat bans have recently been turned up" on UC and also this entire post is grammatically correct (just read over it again) except I used "providers" instead of "developers" in one of the sentences. hopefully english isn't your first language.
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09/11/2025, 02:55
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I’d also like to state that Kernaim is the only one I use and is very quick with updates and support. If you’re having UI problems can you explain what’s going on? I have multiple ways that might be able to solve your problem with Kernaim.
Also DMA cheats are harder to detect unless the Devs know what they’re looking for therefore others state that DMA is usually undetectable longer then an external. Personally I think Kernaim is your best bet if you want an undetected external
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09/11/2025, 20:25
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Originally Posted by fuckapercimoffacham
Why is every one of your posts just saying nonsense about kernaim?
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Bc kernaim is objectivily a good cheat for EFT
Also why do you keep creating new accounts to keep trashing all good cheats here?
Maybe take your business a little bit more seriously and be more polite, that way you will finally make some sales
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09/11/2025, 20:56
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Originally Posted by fuckapercimoffacham
Why is every one of your posts just saying nonsense about kernaim? It's a basic barebones external built on stolen source from the ********* developer. You can even see the kernaim "developer" messaging the ********* dev in one of their media videos LMAO!
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Because I support what I use bozo. idc how it was sourced it works and is reliable & easy to install. Why you clocking all my posts?
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09/12/2025, 02:11
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Originally Posted by fuckapercimoffacham
all cheats that have been around for more than 6 months are usually reliable and easy to use, you just prove over & over kernaim really is nothing special. guy sold his bypass to me, do you think he cares about what he's developing? (the answer is no)
Don't buy kernaim, the owner & developer of it is a ****** maniac with a poor history of substance abuse, supposed "kidnapping" and a thousand mental issues. If anyone wants actual proof of how he scammed me for 700$ when buying the Visibility Check source code after he failed to make it (even with my help) I can send all of the discord messages & his old TG messages before he deleted them.

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You can say whatever you want brother, Idc what he did. How do you know you were even talking to the correct person? There’s mad people that work thru Kernaim. I just know that I didn’t get scammed and I can reliably say that through my personal experience Kernaim is the best choice out of the other providers. But due to no rage hacking options & not allowing it on Arena along with constantly updating there program they remain undetected. You can have your opinion & I’ll have mine. That’s all there is to it.
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09/12/2025, 04:01
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lmao few more messages and we will see them posting doxes of each other lol
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09/12/2025, 05:51
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Originally Posted by SwaggyLaggy
Hello there people; I am making this thread because it is seemingly impossible to find an actual answer on this. I started cheating in Tarkov about 2 months ago. Started with NEXTCHEAT for about a week before the spoofer was detected and my account was banned. I then switched to Kernaim and lasted about a week as well but stopped using them due to their UI having issues and being unreliable. Now here's my question. How can NEXTCHEAT be listed as undetected when its $27 a week but I see many DMA cheats saying the same shit; we are "undetected". But then they proceed to charge 5x as much.
I want to know WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. If ones undetected and the other is undetected why would I pay x5 the amount of money. Will my account last 5x as long?
I just want a cheat that will fucking work. Been going thru accounts like candy and I just don't understand what I am doing wrong or if these are even undetected. You would think that a undetected cheat wouldn't be getting me banned in a week. Some of my accounts being banned have worse stats then my legit main account, which makes no sense.
Does anyone have any recommendations of an actual UNDETECTED cheat I can play on for months and not worry. I'm not even trying to rage hack.
Also is ********* legit? Seen many people vouching for them getting banned.
I will pay actual money to someone who gives me credible info to stop my accounts from being nuked; Thanks again.
Also if anyone has information on what they flag specifically when looking to avoid manual bans. And how do I know if my ban is manual or not?
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Unfortunate situation. Every provider is going to say their product is undetected it’s just how it is. Try as many as you can from reputable sources until you find one that you like. Most are copy and paste and most are resold and rebranded as their own product. My advice is find what works for you it may take a couple attempts.
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