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[Confused]Would this actually work?

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Question [Confused]Would this actually work?

hello everyone, i have came up with an idea, its relates with the anti- auto composing, i have though to make the uniXO/O boxes hatch as normal unis with no *, what i mean is that when you open the box the uniXO/O comes into your inventory already with some * on it, so you dont have to evolve it to compose it, you just put the uni in the composing window and compose, thats how the auto composing program is programed, so what i did was change the id of the eudemon that comes out the box to lower id. e.g , 1071941 i changed it into 1071940. now the eudemonsa that comes out of the boxes will be with no *. but they still be lvl 80 as usual so when you evolve them they becomes the * they have to be. i guess this might stop the auto composing as well. if for some of you this is confusing please post your comments below, and do not chnage anything yet, until this is approved as a soliution for anti- auto compoosing, if this works ill post a guide how to do it.
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sadly it wont have much affect. Due to the fact evolve button will always be in the same spot when composing 1 main pet. Example Major Pet will be in slot 1 Minor Pet will be Slot 2 in your eud bag at all times so you will be able to just add evolving to your macro. The thing that this would help though if stoping the pet being already evolved is that they would have to click the NPC EVERY compose as an evolve window would close the compose window I assume.
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hmmm. you might be right, i guess this idea wont work afterall, i am doing this because using your guide players can still auto compose.
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*bump*

i have thought of another thing, if remove all the uniXO/O boxes from shoping mall and cq_item so people do have them anymore, then make the hatching time to be like 10+ second. then players will have to hatch them and evolve them, the reason for that is that i dont think the auto composing tool will stop itself to wait for eudemons wo hatch. i dont really know how to explain this in more detail for everyone to understand what i am trying to say but we all have to do something to prevent our servers from atuo composers, and of course with this idea alot of players might complain for it to be too hard to play, but if they want a fair and steady game then they have to be ready for anything.

EDIT: and i forgot to say that if to make this idea work make both uniXO/O cost the same in mall and make them hatch at the same rarity.
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Really the best way would be making another EP shop just for Composing items combining it with the system I used for randoming the NPC around you can make the [Open~Shop] Command appear in random spots. It's your best option unless we went back to using the old Compose windows.
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All of your 'perfect and working' solutions wouldn't work, because the Anti-compose app is not as what you think, I've used it myself, I can simply record one compose of me composing from scratch, I open the shopping Mall, buy a uni and a special expball, right click on it, close my inventory, open my eudemon inventory, evolve the uni, close the eudemon inventory, click on Aderes, talk to it and use compose, compose my eudemon, close all windows, open eudemon inventory and use a special expball and yuppy, my eudemon has just got composed.

for the self-movment NPC it does not move out of a particular set coordinate, so that, It doesn't matter for the Anti compose NPC.

Adding a "one more step" requires me a "one more record", simply.

the only solution is to make Aderes ask a random question every 10-15 composes randomly this will break the whole process, and the question answer MUST vary!, for example.

Quote:
Are you a human?
Yes, i am!(resolves correctly)
No, I'm not(resolves correctly)
Kind of(resolves correctly)
....(10 to 12 composes)
Are you eating?
Yes(resolves correctly)
No(resolves correctly)
....
1 + 1 equals?
2(resolves correctly)
3(resolves correctly)
If it were a bot actually, it wouldn't detect it.
But well even that can be detected, if you use ArtMoney SE 7, you can clearly see when an npc sends a message from the memory address, run a record, then resume the old record.
Another thing is the annoy your players will get.

Third thing is, TQ would have fixed it. :P.
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I am very aware of what the auto-compose bot is. The NCP moving I released is an example you can edit the x and y all you like. Also when composing your compose window does not AUTO close. So once composing begins it will always come back up. If you want to put a Question anywhere like I had suggested a long time ago you would put it in with the Universal Boxes or in ACME case you would put it in combination with the compose pack.
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I am very aware of what the auto-compose bot is. The NCP moving I released is an example you can edit the x and y all you like. Also when composing your compose window does not AUTO close. So once composing begins it will always come back up. If you want to put a Question anywhere like I had suggested a long time ago you would put it in with the Universal Boxes or in ACME case you would put it in combination with the compose pack.
What if i bought a set of Unis, transferred them to eudemons warehouses. and recorded one record with the anti-composer.
compose pack seems to be interesting...
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Then your compose bot would still fail. Reason being you are limited to the space you can store them in so your bot would be done within about 10 minutes. Which is not worth worrying about. Compose Packs are in ACME I guess you have stopped playing then?
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Then your compose bot would still fail. Reason being you are limited to the space you can store them in so your bot would be done within about 10 minutes. Which is not worth worrying about. Compose Packs are in ACME I guess you have stopped playing then?
I do not play ACME for now, or any game other than Warcraft 3, no real time for it .
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