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Old 05/01/2011, 00:02   #16
 
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in fact yes , i already said my op. in Eurion's Mod application , he says what he really sees and thats not negative , its great its better than saying great job pal. sometimes negative complains are positive .

Eurion is a great developer thats why i guess he know all the new releases here so hes just adding his suggestions . nothing negative ..

i agree eurion was a bit hard few months ago , but i guess he is not now .
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Old 05/01/2011, 00:06   #17
 
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Lawl at don't read it. Would't you first have to read it to know it's negative criticism? But I guess everyone is allowed there opinion ... as for the 100% working beleive what you want. You never tried it and cannot say it doesn't work because of that fact. I guess if someone was smart enough there was probably a way but that would required waaaaay more then the standard "I'm lazy and wanna cheat lets download an auto clicker." You would be doing some crazy **** to get past it and I don't think anyone with that knowledge would spend there time on eo private servers (I know I wouldn't).
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for sure everyone here is allowed to say his oppinion u say he is negative others say he is positive .. BUT the whole issue we Agree on is that we Are Off-topic .
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.. as for the 100% working beleive what you want. You never tried it and cannot say it doesn't work because of that fact. I guess if someone was smart enough there was probably a way but that would required waaaaay more then the standard "I'm lazy and wanna cheat lets download an auto clicker." You would be doing some crazy **** to get past it and I don't think anyone with that knowledge would spend there time on eo private servers (I know I wouldn't).
You just contradicted yourself there. If your way is 100% wouldn't that mean that no matter how smart a person was, that it wouldn't be bypassed?

As for people with that knowledge not spending time on Eo, we all mess with Eo for different reasons. Some may do it because they enjoy it, some may do it because they have a bone to pick with TQ, and then some do it just because they can.
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Old 05/01/2011, 02:59   #20

 
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and to answer the first post

do you want a hacker free server , join my server
reason that it is hackfree ?? because it got 2 players o.O (it got his reasons )

then to answer the 100% foolproof anti hack
i definaly need to denie it that it is 100% anti hack

when do you notice that some1 is autocomposing ??
let me say that thing differend

if i would use hacks ( and yes i dit in games) then they wont know that i use it
how it comes?? because i am a smart persone who know how to use hacks and prevent to abuse hacks

as example , speedhack get used to travel fast , so why would i use it all the time ??

autocompose is used when there are a lot of players not active ( or when i am away for XX time)
how do you notice it ?? you do not notice it or you need to keep watching me

on that way are there even more hackers then you think ,but not all hackers abuse there hacks and keeps themself on lowprofile

so claiming that your game is 100% hackproof is just a big joke

then you should know to that you got 2 kind of hacks
server side and client side
a autoclicker is client side and does not leave logs behind
speedhack is server side as it alter the packages or memory to provide differend value

xp hack is client side , as the client sends a command when it get full xp (you wont notice it if i do not abuse it )

there are a lot more of that kind of hacks , but the problem is , when do you notice it ??
it is like last time i played wow on a private server
the noob used hacks to battle me and he was flying 200 feet in the air ( on level 20 )
that leave logs behind and screenshots

other example of a hack that dit not get noticed is a teleport hack in 2moons
whenever i got to a certian place then i see a player spawning , i see him killing mobs and then he dissapear when he get in my vieuw range (i love lag , as i could see it because i was lagging)
but you wont even notice it and you wont even know it if you do not see it in action

but if you think you are 100% hackproof , then i wish you good luck

then to answer your last question
you think that smart persones who can make hacks does not play games ?
or that are smart enouf to do that kind of stuff
wanna know a little secret ??

it are those smart persones who make those hacks and play and abuse there hacks
why they do it ??
because they want to have a challenge , and whats the best challenge then showing a server owner that his server just got owned by him ??
hackers on a server let us ( the server creators) feels like noobs
just because he founded a way to cheat us
and that is where they got fun in

other example
why do i love to release scripts ?? why do i love to edit scripts and to work in mysql ??
because of my work ?? because i just love to show the skills i got ??
because of the fun i have in creating it ?? because of the challenge i got from it ?

why do you play or mess around in the database ?? , because you hate to work with mysql ??
because you love to get donations and thats the only thing that count ??
if you think a little , then i am 100% sure that you will find a reason why you still developing your server and why your server is still online unlike other servers (they got other reasons to )

hopely you understand our point of vieuw and i hope you understand the real world now

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Old 05/01/2011, 06:45   #21
 
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best servers i have seen so far that are even close to a anti auto composing is phoenyx rysing and thunder online sure there annoying to compose on them servers but it limits the autoing to like a max of 11 composes
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Autocomposing at the moment is pretty much unavoidable. On disturbia we dont have any anti-macro or whatever on it. This is because I dont see how it actually works, when you press the X to close the little pop up after you compose your pet in the thing that gives you the points it added, it goes back into the composing menu without asking for a check or whatever so how exactly are you gonna change that without fixing it in the binary of the client? You cant. As many have said its unavoidable, just ban those that you can prove have dont it.

On Disturbia you need to do more than just compose, special experience ***** arent avaliable to just purchase from the mall. You have to quest for them and when your pets reaches a certain start mark it requires minors which you can only recieve by questing. Now, if I find out there are hackers in my server, they are banned if the automatic cheating system hasnt done so already. But what im saying is, even if they have hacked to compose, they would have had to do alot of work just to be able to get there anyway.

As for Eurion, hes one of the most helpful people on this forum so showing respect is the least we can do. Do I comment on the way you speak in every post kronic? If thats the way you wanna play it then be ready to take criticism.
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Old 05/01/2011, 10:15   #23
 
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u guys already know that online games what ever they are can be played by network Not internet but u wont find anyone on ..

if u autocomposed then for sure no one will get u , am i right ?
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Um the internet is a network? And actually it depends. My server detects if a pets star is too high for so many composes etc, if it is the player is sent to bot jail automatically. It also does this if the serer believes the pet is being reborned too quickly. But it has faults like many other anti-composing systems. It is possible for you to be caught but it is also tricky for the server to realize when it is happening.
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and to answer the first post

do you want a hacker free server , join my server
reason that it is hackfree ?? because it got 2 players o.O (it got his reasons )

then to answer the 100% foolproof anti hack
i definaly need to denie it that it is 100% anti hack

when do you notice that some1 is autocomposing ??
let me say that thing differend

if i would use hacks ( and yes i dit in games) then they wont know that i use it
how it comes?? because i am a smart persone who know how to use hacks and prevent to abuse hacks

as example , speedhack get used to travel fast , so why would i use it all the time ??

autocompose is used when there are a lot of players not active ( or when i am away for XX time)
how do you notice it ?? you do not notice it or you need to keep watching me

on that way are there even more hackers then you think ,but not all hackers abuse there hacks and keeps themself on lowprofile

so claiming that your game is 100% hackproof is just a big joke

then you should know to that you got 2 kind of hacks
server side and client side
a autoclicker is client side and does not leave logs behind
speedhack is server side as it alter the packages or memory to provide differend value

xp hack is client side , as the client sends a command when it get full xp (you wont notice it if i do not abuse it )

there are a lot more of that kind of hacks , but the problem is , when do you notice it ??
it is like last time i played wow on a private server
the noob used hacks to battle me and he was flying 200 feet in the air ( on level 20 )
that leave logs behind and screenshots

other example of a hack that dit not get noticed is a teleport hack in 2moons
whenever i got to a certian place then i see a player spawning , i see him killing mobs and then he dissapear when he get in my vieuw range (i love lag , as i could see it because i was lagging)
but you wont even notice it and you wont even know it if you do not see it in action

but if you think you are 100% hackproof , then i wish you good luck

then to answer your last question
you think that smart persones who can make hacks does not play games ?
or that are smart enouf to do that kind of stuff
wanna know a little secret ??

it are those smart persones who make those hacks and play and abuse there hacks
why they do it ??
because they want to have a challenge , and whats the best challenge then showing a server owner that his server just got owned by him ??
hackers on a server let us ( the server creators) feels like noobs
just because he founded a way to cheat us
and that is where they got fun in

other example
why do i love to release scripts ?? why do i love to edit scripts and to work in mysql ??
because of my work ?? because i just love to show the skills i got ??
because of the fun i have in creating it ?? because of the challenge i got from it ?

why do you play or mess around in the database ?? , because you hate to work with mysql ??
because you love to get donations and thats the only thing that count ??
if you think a little , then i am 100% sure that you will find a reason why you still developing your server and why your server is still online unlike other servers (they got other reasons to )

hopely you understand our point of vieuw and i hope you understand the real world now

Greets From PowerChaos
Lawl at that post. I said you cannot bot, never did I say anything about hacking ... don't feel like reading the whole post though.
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Old 05/01/2011, 20:10   #26
 
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cruey i didnt mean that .. internet is not network in my point .

if u just have a router with no internet and connected it through 2 computers (without using an internet ) it will connect throught any server without running autopatch .

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Lol okay you need to work on your definitions for network, your right about the whole "play on the network" thing, but your vocabs a bit off.
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Old 05/02/2011, 00:09   #28
 
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Lol okay you need to work on your definitions for network, your right about the whole "play on the network" thing, but your vocabs a bit off.
Who cares ... more useless argueing in the eo section.
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Old 05/02/2011, 17:14   #29

 
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@kronic

for your information
bots are used by hackers , so it fall under the same term

bots are hacks as they automate tasks by altering differend values
or in case of a auto clicker , it is still tricking the system ( also called a hack) and thats where it goes about

you got maybe a anti compose protection , but i wanna bet that there are differend ways to bypass it

i got a unic system in mind that bots can not bypass ( even hacks cant) but not sure if it can be implented

and to prove my system i will ask it to other users to see what htey think of it

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@kronic

for your information
bots are used by hackers , so it fall under the same term

bots are hacks as they automate tasks by altering differend values
or in case of a auto clicker , it is still tricking the system ( also called a hack) and thats where it goes about

you got maybe a anti compose protection , but i wanna bet that there are differend ways to bypass it

i got a unic system in mind that bots can not bypass ( even hacks cant) but not sure if it can be implented

and to prove my system i will ask it to other users to see what htey think of it

Greets From PowerChaos
Bots are only used by fail hackers lol and gl with your system ..
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