Whats the point

[someone0101]

Syberx i see u make comments on here all the time and maybe 10 of the 500 are usefull most of the time its something like "it can be done but we arent gonna tell you" or something along those lines...is it just so u can have alot of posts even if they are pointless. and honestly I really dont know y this forum is here anymore....im amazed the vac hack got out(someone outside the UG must have found that out and made more than 1 post).....the way no one like to tell anyone else how something is done. everything i see here now is "we cant make it public"...what u say about that does make sence, alot of ppl will abuse it and the end result could be bad. however Y make a vac hack so easy for all? and Y tell ppl you can do it but are not gonna tell them......if ur not gonna tell tell then dont say anything or say you dont know.

Y cant you just point ppl in the right direction...give them a hint or something....make them do some work for it....i know some ppl are too lazy to do it and will still just beg u to do it for them but ****'em. The only thing this forum really has thats worth anything is that vac hack and maybe a few nice bonus infos here and there but the other 10,000 post are ppl asking how stuff is done and getting a "we arent telling you" response.

I found out what I was looking for and so much more but no real thanks to any of you....btw I do notice you take down useful posts b4 it gets many hits.

Flame me all you want here, call me a noob(cuz no one can come up with anything creative) but im sure 90% of this feels like this is just a bragging forum of stuff some ppl can do but not them. oh well.

P.S. yall are wrong about the GM thing....it has been done...
dont ask...i mean "beg" for proof
call me a lair if u must
whatever idc
everyone have fun being told figure it out urself by forum on the subject you are asking about

[woedred]

I agree with this its the same on all forums, cocky ******** who dont even know a **** from a pee come shooting off insults and avoiding the questions because they are ****** with no life.

[CosmosTunes]

the point is most player only leech here. they beg for something and as soon as they got the stuff they wanted u will never see them again.

we dont want player like this. thats why we have an underground section. And if something is released there and some player beg for that all player will tell you "we arent telling you". And this is the only right way to get a rid of all the leecher.

if you make good work and help the community u gain access to the underground....

[syberx]

Originally Posted by someone0101

Syberx i see u make comments on here all the time and maybe 10 of the 500 are usefull most of the time its something like "it can be done but we arent gonna tell you" or something along those lines...is it just so u can have alot of posts even if they are pointless. and honestly I really dont know y this forum is here anymore....im amazed the vac hack got out(someone outside the UG must have found that out and made more than 1 post).....the way no one like to tell anyone else how something is done. everything i see here now is "we cant make it public"...what u say about that does make sence, alot of ppl will abuse it and the end result could be bad. however Y make a vac hack so easy for all? and Y tell ppl you can do it but are not gonna tell them......if ur not gonna tell tell then dont say anything or say you dont know.

Y cant you just point ppl in the right direction...give them a hint or something....make them do some work for it....i know some ppl are too lazy to do it and will still just beg u to do it for them but fuck'em. The only thing this forum really has thats worth anything is that vac hack and maybe a few nice bonus infos here and there but the other 10,000 post are ppl asking how stuff is done and getting a "we arent telling you" response.

I found out what I was looking for and so much more but no real thanks to any of you....btw I do notice you take down useful posts b4 it gets many hits.

Flame me all you want here, call me a noob(cuz no one can come up with anything creative) but im sure 90% of this feels like this is just a bragging forum of stuff some ppl can do but not them. oh well.

P.S. yall are wrong about the GM thing....it has been done...
dont ask...i mean "beg" for proof
call me a lair if u must
whatever idc
everyone have fun being told figure it out urself by forum on the subject you are asking about

1) I dun give the "it can be done but we arent gonna tell you" kinda posts frequently and if i do, it means I know it works but I've yet or do not intend to try...

2) what does my post count got to do with anything?

3) I have nothing to do with the vac hack comin out of UG but since it's out i rather teach noobs how to vac properly rather than screwing up gameplay of others, getting banned and starting to spam the "OMG how to vac hack" topics...

4) Alot of leechers do not know how to hack and people have the right not to tell anyone what they know about

5) I do not take down any posts...most are done by mods for their reasons

6) For such a noob post you are getting reported

7) if you think it's easy try doing my job for a change and handle all the damn spams, flames, and noob posts

Originally Posted by woedred

I agree with this its the same on all forums, cocky assholes who dont even know a shit from a pee come shooting off insults and avoiding the questions because they are pricks with no life.

If you are not happy leave...and dun worry you will get reported for flaming ^^

Originally Posted by CosmosTunes

the point is most player only leech here. they beg for something and as soon as they got the stuff they wanted u will never see them again.

we dont want player like this. thats why we have an underground section. And if something is released there and some player beg for that all player will tell you "we arent telling you". And this is the only right way to get a rid of all the leecher.

if you make good work and help the community u gain access to the underground....

How true....so many of the same old request topic again and again....

[lala1234]

i agree with what original poster said, i personally just refrain from posting simply because i dont wish to help noobs. guardians jobs are to:

Hey,

After a talk with an Admin Namek and I have decided you the following possibility to offer.

3 of you have the chance to get "Forum-Guardian".

We have to do this cause the whole Forum was restored and Namek and I haven't enough time to work every thread/posting through.

The Task

You look around in the 2Moons-Area and every post which have the following criteria have to report:

Insults
Spam
Double-Postings
Wrong-Section-Postings
Advertismenet

On your wish you'll be named in a Thread. If you don't want that, it's okay.


so their jobs are to check posts for

Insults
Spam
Double-Postings
Wrong-Section-Postings
Advertismenet

but they have extended their reach to other things, and quite frankly im not sure how these guys got selected because from what i've seen they are total **** noobs. just reread their old posts and find out, funny how it seems they got a major power trip. if you wanna be an ******* like me then just dont take a position like this. otherwise just do your job and he said you dont have to be named if you flag a post but these jerks seem to enjoy posting some lame +warning stuff lol

[Gankstuh]

What cosmos said.

We all know what happens when you make hacking to easy and public. Vac hackers are everywhere now, and they are making some people's experiences really difficult. Like pulling a lot of mobs to different areas so they don't respawn until they are killed.

If we make things like duping, skill editing, or anything else public, we all know that leechers will take the hacks and abuse them. Yes, even hackers care about what's good for the game. And that's why there's a UG section.

As for the public section, it's been less active lately, which I don't mind. Outside of 2MBot, there hasn't been many new hacks posted lately. The news here spreads like wildfire, it's for the good of the game to reduce the number of public hacks.

[someone0101]

@lala yea they do try to report u for whatever crap they think they can get away wit....such as a "noob post".....i bet if i didnt mention her(syberx) she wouldnt have cared. oh well i guess thats what happens when someone points out the truth...ppl dont like it. @syberx well i could do syberx's job but i wouldnt to show you up or anything and make u feel bad so u just keep doing what your doing and ppl can continue to see u do all the stuff i alrdy mentioned.

end @syberx..so u dont get confused

I agree major hacks should not be made public....however the ppl willing to do the hack themself or figure it out instead of just dling a file are the one u should be helping...for the most part. I doubt that everyone in the ug did all the hacks they know by themself....it was more like likelysomething like this....."hey guys I found this in the data.pak, think we can do anything with it"....then...."well i found monster.csv with all the monsters attrabutes, speed lvl ect. some things can be edit and work"...and finally u have a hack. Just an example but im sure u get the point, different minds look at things differently...and when u have someone who knows how to do the stuff working WITH someone who is creative u have a great team. as for the leechers yea...they are out there by the 1000's but if u told them u dont know or just didnt respond what are they gonna do....give u a reason to ban them for the forum?

I will give credit to some of u out there u do try to point ppl in the right direction sometimes and thats exactly what u should be doing if u dont want leechers. Cosmo u do help out like that quite a bit(in the good way). But honestly it seems like this forum is based off of "we dont what to have anything for u to leech off of" ...if thats the case u should just wipe the forum...delete every useful post and keep the ug as it is.......that way no one else can leech, no one can complain and no one else will bother u.

there is no real way of knowing what hacks can really be done....I honestly think the "public" gets told that the ug has all the possible hacks and waits for the public to figure it out on thier own and post something up about it...then someone takes it down fast and adds that person to the ug.....just what i really think is going on.

and syberex just the first part was directed at u...i see u post alot of short useless stuff...justed seemed arogent too, was only pointing that out....everything else is directed at the whole forum.

edit : btw i was browsing through some posts and saw someone from the ug say to get in the ug u need to help the community and post some hacks. (not a direct quote) wouldnt that leak stuff that u might want to keep a secret?

I know i said it b4 but cosmos is the most helpful person i have seen on these forums.....not for the guides they have posted but for the "pointing" in the right direction replies without flat out saying how to do it.

p.s. im not mad at anyone or mad that im not in the ug just the fact that the forum false advertises help when MOST of the time it "no's" "negative comments.

Thanks again cosmos

[Vyndariel]

I close this... and will write a long answer to all things which are named in these postings and what i think to do and why i am doing this the way i do.

I close... cause nobody else can write after that and it's a cut.

[Vyndariel]

Hey,


This thread had many emotions set free. I know about some problems and I will take position to this.


We aren't telling you
The Underground-Section is at the moment a small number of people. We are with 2 Mods (Namek303 and me) 12 people in there. These people in there cause Namek303 and I have seen that they're working fair, honestly and with much patient with other users or they're developed useful things, which are posted in the „Exploits, Hacks, Bots, Tools & Macros“-Section.


It isn't the fact that only people who invent the wheel new come into the Underground.


I can tell you that 95% from the Underground-Stuff is public and No, I don't have copied all public stuff into the Underground-Area.


The Underground is no place of „ultra imba end of time“ things. We're discuss things what may work and test 'em if we have the time for that.


Sure we don't want to tell anything 100% like from the Underground, but the users from the board will be nice to each other user, that's an important thing for Namek303 and me. We show directions, but we don't take anyone by his/her hand and lead him all the way.


Forum-Guardians
I know about the problem of posting „you will get a warning, I've reported your post“ or something like that. I think... that's a difficult thing... Every Guardian has to look if the method he/she work likes is good for the emotions of other users.


I know that some users are angry about that kind of postings and I know that looks sometimes like Spam.


I'll think about Guardian-Rules, which I have to write down, think over it, write an correction, think over it... and post it. These Guardian-Rules will take off the most of the point why some users will be angy.


At this position I say sorry for every user who feels insulted by a Forum-Guardian. Don't leave us. It will be better soon.


Planing of Forum
I know a „allround-delete“ will nothing change at this massive amount of spam-postings, double-postings, double-threading and so on. So I've started a poll where anybody can make his decission if we should re-organize the forum.


Make Public-Stuff Sticky, delete double-threads, delete postings.


The only thing... why I haven't done this already is... I had it done before... but so many people are flaming me cause her posting-count is now low, cause i've deleted so much spam, flaming, double-posting-shit. I restored everything on wish of the most users.


Now a new poll is started... and now everyone has the chance to take position and change the 2moons-area.


I hope that the way Namek303 and I want to go with this board will somethimes be good. I know we are also humans and we make also mistakes. So I hope the way to let the decission in the user-hand will be the way Namek303 and I want to go.


Best regards


Vyn