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[DK-]

Why until this moment every one server is the same like the rest, just different names. There's 30 servers online,2-3 of the them are , we can say-ok, and the rest are trash.
How many developers are here, if we all really try to push together, I am sure that we are going to make something better.
Not just to be proud that we have stolen some files from anywhere..., because the result is the same- same ****, different name.
I am sure that here, there are a lot of smart guys, but ofcourse everybody being selfish, or just this game is dying?

Please, feel free to comment below.

Regards, DK

[guesswho-.-]

I agree that vast majority of the community does nothing but copy one another. there are tons of copies of rising everywhere with 0 unique stuff and they're proud of it...
the reason why most of the smart guys dont share **** is that nobody appreciates it.
Actually no, we spend our time, they dont even say thanks and then they go and try to make money with it with a 1-month server which gets closed without a reason *cough* impulz, platinum and many others *cough*
we dont give stuff out because it feels bad when someone makes money with your ****.

I could release my event server but whats the point? everyone would run with it and I'd get nothing from it. I'd probably get criticized for no reason too. I also have a life and my time is pretty valuable given the fact that Dekaron scene has only a few people that know their ****.

but yea if someone wants to share valuable info or start a REAL project and has some ACTUAL knowledge then I might be interested. but I dont wanna work with people that are known for being leechers or scammers.

[DK-]

I agree with you but this game wants development I'm sick to look everywhere the same,why we have to steal from a Global or Korean,but understand here almost of the people looking for fixed files and everything with 0 % work on it.And possible to do certain circle of people for that.My idea is to invent YOURSELF SOMETHING NEW,and not to boast that we broke any files.If all gather in one place believe me there will be a great result

[Dezeiver]

Originally Posted by DK-

I am sure that here, there are a lot of smart guys, but ofcourse everybody being selfish..

You are talking about people being selfish and 48 comments before you were the one whos promoting/advertising selling "your" A9 files while people were asking you to release missing files and you just ***** ignore them? Arent you the one from them?

Originally Posted by DK-

"if we all really try to push together, I am sure that we are going to make something better."

Regarding your past actions i am not sure that your intentions are pure "for sake of dekaron" or just another thing that you can offer "for sale" later..

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Originally Posted by guesswho-.-

the reason why most of the smart guys dont share shit is that nobody appreciates it.

How old are you 20-22 years or less? Dont you have any other excuses than that since you are always saying that over and over again? Saying that "nobody" or "everyone" makes you unmature. You cant put everyone into the same basket. Yes, some people could not appreciate it but there will be always someone who will appreciate it.

Suggestion: Find better excuse

Originally Posted by guesswho-.-

Actually no, we spend our time, they dont even say thanks

Show me something that you released for free past years since i dont remember anything than you hacks (which you actually sell).
People even thanked you for your comments (not going to mention even this one which i quote) and you are one who states that no one thanked you?

When Action10 release his A9 files people dont thanked him and they didnt appreciate it, correct? Or? When Farius release the rest of the files people also were ungratefull.. When Janvier123 and LostParadise23 release all their stuff people were also ungratefull? Or when Hellspider, Shadow, Baica123?

Originally Posted by guesswho-.-

I could release my event server but whats the point? everyone would run with it and I'd get nothing from it.

Whats the point of github/butbucket/googlecode? There is tons of stuff open to public where people shared their project which are valued thousand times more than your stuff. Why they open source their high valued stuff? Did they get anything from it? Why you always need to have some profit ($$$$$)? Did Action10 get any profit of his files even that most private servers use his files? Did he?

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"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"


If someone was kind enough to release some map editor since not everyone here is a coder people would make maps themselfs. Then private servers could have custom maps at least but.. here isnt hardly seen anyone to release anything to help communiny since "no one appreciate it", "they dont even say thanks".. meanwhile other comminities are growing for some reason.. wonder why only Dekaron "community" isnt. Maybe because of people with prifit expectations like you.. who knows.

[guesswho-.-]

Originally Posted by Dezeiver

How old are you 20-22 years or less? Dont you have any other excuses than that since you are always saying that over and over again? Saying that "nobody" or "everyone" makes you unmature. You cant put everyone into the same basket. Yes, some people could not appreciate it but there will be always someone who will appreciate it.

Suggestion: Find better excuse

I know truth hurts, dekaron community is very limited and all of the good people moved on to other games. a huge part of private server community runs their servers only for money. not as a hobby. the point of not releasing our shit is that they will try to make money with it. I have seen it countless times, even people you mentioned (like LostParadise, farius..) didnt do SHIT to get their files. someone gave or sold it to them and they made money with it either by selling the files (you can still find their threads in the black market) or running servers for 1 (ONE) month and then disappearing. they even mentioned it in their "new" servers that they used to run 5 - 6 other servers. if you still dont see my point then go ahead and call me selfish. I dont like the entire idea of feeding people.

Originally Posted by Dezeiver

Show me something that you released for free past years since i dont remember anything than you hacks (which you actually sell).
People even thanked you for your comments (not going to mention even this one which i quote) and you are one who states that no one thanked you?

you're right that I dont release stuff and that I used to sell hacks. but if I released hacks for free, you'd see 5 other people trying to sell them in the black market (happened so many times) thankfully you cant say I did the same since every single hack I sold was made by me or for me.

Originally Posted by Dezeiver

When Action10 release his A9 files people dont thanked him and they didnt appreciate it, correct? Or? When Farius release the rest of the files people also were ungratefull.. When Janvier123 and LostParadise23 release all their stuff people were also ungratefull? Or when Hellspider, Shadow, Baica123?

Action10 released the files because someone was selling them and the price was dropping rapidly. Farius released them because he couldnt sell them anymore because others found the files for free. Hellspider is one of very few honest people. I'm not even gonna start on shadow.

Originally Posted by Dezeiver

Whats the point of github/butbucket/googlecode? There is tons of stuff open to public where people shared their project which are valued thousand times more than your stuff.

none of the stuff is related to dekaron. as I said earlier all the good people moved on already and we had to start learning on our own.

Originally Posted by Dezeiver

Why they open source their high valued stuff? Did they get anything from it? Why you always need to have some profit ($$$$$)? Did Action10 get any profit of his files even that most private servers use his files? Did he?

there's a long story behind why he released the files. it involves people getting scammed.

Originally Posted by Dezeiver

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"


If someone was kind enough to release some map editor since not everyone here is a coder people would make maps themselfs. Then private servers could have custom maps at least but.. here isnt hardly seen anyone to release anything to help communiny since "no one appreciate it", "they dont even say thanks".. meanwhile other comminities are growing for some reason.. wonder why only Dekaron "community" isnt. Maybe because of people with prifit expectations like you.. who knows.

I dont expect profits and Im not doing it for money. I just dont like people getting money for my time spent.

[DK-]

Originally Posted by Dezeiver

You are talking about people being selfish and 48 comments before you were the one whos promoting/advertising selling "your" A9 files while people were asking you to release missing files and you just ***** ignore them? Arent you the one from them?



Regarding your past actions i am not sure that your intentions are pure "for sake of dekaron" or just another thing that you can offer "for sale" later..

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How old are you 20-22 years or less? Dont you have any other excuses than that since you are always saying that over and over again? Saying that "nobody" or "everyone" makes you unmature. You cant put everyone into the same basket. Yes, some people could not appreciate it but there will be always someone who will appreciate it.

Suggestion: Find better excuse




Show me something that you released for free past years since i dont remember anything than you hacks (which you actually sell).
People even thanked you for your comments (not going to mention even this one which i quote) and you are one who states that no one thanked you?

When Action10 release his A9 files people dont thanked him and they didnt appreciate it, correct? Or? When Farius release the rest of the files people also were ungratefull.. When Janvier123 and LostParadise23 release all their stuff people were also ungratefull? Or when Hellspider, Shadow, Baica123?




Whats the point of github/butbucket/googlecode? There is tons of stuff open to public where people shared their project which are valued thousand times more than your stuff. Why they open source their high valued stuff? Did they get anything from it? Why you always need to have some profit ($$$$$)? Did Action10 get any profit of his files even that most private servers use his files? Did he?

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"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"


If someone was kind enough to release some map editor since not everyone here is a coder people would make maps themselfs. Then private servers could have custom maps at least but.. here isnt hardly seen anyone to release anything to help communiny since "no one appreciate it", "they dont even say thanks".. meanwhile other comminities are growing for some reason.. wonder why only Dekaron "community" isnt. Maybe because of people with prifit expectations like you.. who knows.

Why?! Action10 didn't sold their files?! Idont think that I have to say to somebody "thanks" for realizing some files, because now or later somebody else was going to make it. My option is to make a team and to make something better and different. I dont say it because I want sell the files after that. I mean that, I dont want to steal non stop from Global and Korea .
I hope that You are going to understand me right, dont turn my words to something else.

[Ultimo ☼]

Instead of asking others to share files, why dont you guys take a look at what we already have? a lot of stuffs has been shared and can be used to develop your own stuff. The right thing to do would be to share files that could HELP in the Dekaron's development. Exactly what Zirak, HellSpider and others have done (packet sniffer etc).
Personally its some times now that i study C#, and you guys also should learn a programming language if you want to stay ahead and code your own stuff.

Releasing files which can be used to open 50+ 1-day-servers is pointless. Thats my opinion.

[DraftPunk]

in reality this **** has always been a well of selfishness, a delayed bunch thinking that knows some ****, when in reality do not know anything, this and the most disunited community here all so want the knowledge for you own **** everyone here that are selfish and do not like to share knowledge, information are only valid when they are broadcast.

[guesswho-.-]

funny part is most of us started from the same spot. then some of us started doing **** while the rest waited for us to bring content. then some of us gave up and the remaining few is keeping **** secure while everyone else is raging that we're selfish ***** xD

some of you guys put a total of 0 effort and all you do is cry that we're selfish. how about you move your *** and do something on your own too? I was not a programmer or reverser when I started playing dekaron. I learned everything I know BECAUSE of dekaron. if I could do it, why dont you do it? I'm busy as hell too so dont use that for an excuse.

so yea, if anyone wants to start a serious project feel free to hit me up.

[DraftPunk]

the question is that here will not forward because knowledge not are shared, look at your hand MU community, it there is a sharing of ideas, for this reason it always grows here and unlike the more you know the more you hide other so that there is only a single server asset that can say that and mouth half server, think before you talk **** look sideways and see how something really grow when information are disseminated.

[DK-]

Originally Posted by guesswho-.-

funny part is most of us started from the same spot. then some of us started doing **** while the rest waited for us to bring content. then some of us gave up and the remaining few is keeping **** secure while everyone else is raging that we're selfish ***** xD

some of you guys put a total of 0 effort and all you do is cry that we're selfish. how about you move your *** and do something on your own too? I was not a programmer or reverser when I started playing dekaron. I learned everything I know BECAUSE of dekaron. if I could do it, why dont you do it? I'm busy as hell too so dont use that for an excuse.

so yea, if anyone wants to start a serious project feel free to hit me up.

I am the first who wants to start something new and different, but I do not think that all of this opinion

[[DEV]Dekaron]

Originally Posted by guesswho-.-

I know truth hurts, dekaron community is very limited and all of the good people moved on to other games. a huge part of private server community runs their servers only for money. not as a hobby. the point of not releasing our **** is that they will try to make money with it. I have seen it countless times, even people you mentioned (like LostParadise, farius..) didnt do **** to get their files. someone gave or sold it to them and they made money with it either by selling the files (you can still find their threads in the black market) or running servers for 1 (ONE) month and then disappearing. they even mentioned it in their "new" servers that they used to run 5 - 6 other servers. if you still dont see my point then go ahead and call me selfish. I dont like the entire idea of feeding people.

My server it's not for money its for nice fun and play
But if someone buy coins it's will be good, if not it's nothing.

[Proxynear]

Iam really sad of this servers like 1 week and close just opening for money , i was really looking for something really serious and not some projects to get money. I love to develop and make something new for people likes and play , not for they donate and get gears or op *****

[guesswho-.-]

Originally Posted by [DEV]Dekaron

My server it's not for money its for nice fun and play
But if someone buy coins it's will be good, if not it's nothing.

I didnt mention your server at all. you're putting some effort in it.


@everyone else:

when I mentioned a serious project, I wasnt talking about editing csvs. serious project for me = emulator of the newest version of the game. it requires a lot of knowledge and experience. the process of writing an emulator for Dekaron is extremely time consuming due to the way the game is built. I can handle the SQL, asm and c++ side. I can do it all alone too, but its boring to work alone. I cant share the progress with anyone because most of the contacts on my skype list dont know how tough it is.

I have already started. the project is being developed as we speak.

[Proxynear]

When you mean change the emulator , what you mean concretly? Action 16 or what