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~~benkiller47~~ · 11/08/2013, 08:15

You all need to shutup with this "Pixel bot is undetectable" ****. Its just a plain out lie! Pixel bots are just as safe as packet bots. Bigpoint's new script doesn't even run on the game server. Its a behavioral based system that works on logs and actions performed by the user and does statistical analysis. Jesus....

cigy_su · 11/08/2013, 08:22

are u robot or what? u are working by BP? who have said u about this script? rise and shine, BP tell us the tale...
only what they can do is ban users fo botting and fairly playing...

bot_user1234 · 11/08/2013, 10:40

Lol why would you post that? Some people need to realize he isn't ***. Not everything he says is correct-.- pfft

armababy · 11/08/2013, 11:02

Agree with this, as a logical guy, as myself several IT project leader i can tell you that i could easily come up with behavioral algorithm based on logs and databases.

In fact even if DO did not had anything to run it against before, i'm sure they would just prepare for this long time ago and gather data.

So all this talks about whats detectable and whats not is full on hard mode ****.

Only way to know anything or detect anything if there's 1 or more requests between your pc and external server of DO.
Doesn't matter packet or http request, all can be patterned and figured out.
There's expected behavior that all humans do. It does not take genius to figure out when something is out of place, just a lot of data to analyze.

XxDarthDexterxX · 11/08/2013, 11:53

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Originally Posted by armababy

Agree with this, as a logical guy, as myself several IT project leader i can tell you that i could easily come up with behavioral algorithm based on logs and databases.

In fact even if DO did not had anything to run it against before, i'm sure they would just prepare for this long time ago and gather data.

So all this talks about whats detectable and whats not is full on hard mode ****.

Only way to know anything or detect anything if there's 1 or more requests between your pc and external server of DO.
Doesn't matter packet or http request, all can be patterned and figured out.
There's expected behavior that all humans do. It does not take genius to figure out when something is out of place, just a lot of data to analyze.

I *sorta* agree with you. Like you said, it's a lot of data. Knowing that the developers of DO have been lazy in the past, I'm going to take a guess and say that they're still lazy. I'm not sure they could've come up with an algorithm this quickly.

Ten bucks says they're bluffing.

armababy · 11/08/2013, 12:32

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Originally Posted by XxDarthDexterxX

I *sorta* agree with you. Like you said, it's a lot of data. Knowing that the developers of DO have been lazy in the past, I'm going to take a guess and say that they're still lazy. I'm not sure they could've come up with an algorithm this quickly.

Ten bucks says they're bluffing.

Yeah they been lazy to implement, features for people.
At the end of the day every developer anywhere that works for salary will do what he is asked to do.

If management want to focus on maximal profit, then obviously priority to fix for example "Kami detonate bug" is super low as fixing that would mean that BP have to pay developers for work that will make loses in overall for BP.

Since bot/pixeling and whatnot is directly taking away BP's planed income they make that top priority and can dedicate all resources to this.

So all in all i never really blamed developers, but rather management and policy of BP's DO team.

But to the point about bans, i'm sure if you are banned for no reason they will sort it out, because who would like to lose paying customers.

fuso98 · 11/08/2013, 14:05

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Originally Posted by benkiller47

You all need to shutup with this "Pixel bot is undetectable" ****. Its just a plain out lie! Pixel bots are just as safe as packet bots. Bigpoint's new script doesn't even run on the game server. Its a behavioral based system that works on logs and actions performed by the user and does statistical analysis. Jesus....

*Red part*: Lol are you serious?
1. Packet bot send packet to darkorbit server and Pixelbot move your mouse
2. Packet bot can bot more than one account simultaneosly (and i think this is not the best for safety) and with pixelbot you can run 1 account ONLY!
3. PixelBot don't send request

PS. this is only my opinion, i don't think that pixelbot are undetectable

i think that a pixelbot is safest then packetbot. If you use 24/24 a pixelbot/packetbot you got ban!

bastianwolf · 11/08/2013, 14:55

wowow all these kids are so full of **** l0l

kamieniarz · 11/08/2013, 15:07

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Originally Posted by bastianwolf

wowow all these kids are so full of **** l0l

Same as this game

joepie1215 · 11/08/2013, 15:15

even if they can detect your pixel bot they can't ban you unless they have prove it wasn't you playing , and that would only be good enough if they were like filming you and see that a bot run's and no one is playing.

MuPowe · 11/08/2013, 16:16

Pixel Bots are UNDETECTABLE

I Agree with !benkiller47 ... They have doubts for players because maybe the doubt players uses packetbots maybe and that's why BP Banned "PIXELBOTS"

It's impossible to detect the pixelbots.. By the way if u say pixelbots are not safe so u mean when i move and kill npc's with my mouse i should get ban

?

Requi · 11/08/2013, 16:19

There is no problem with pixelbots.
Bigpoint just failed and 90% of the players who got banned are legit players.
Even a german board moderator got banned.

Bigpoint will unban them soon, I guess.

armababy · 11/08/2013, 16:26

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Originally Posted by MuPowe

Pixel Bots are UNDETECTABLE I Agree with !benkiller47 ... They have doubts for players because maybe the doubt players uses packetbots maybe and that's why BP Banned "PIXELBOTS" It's impossible to detect the pixelbots.. By the way if u say pixelbots are not safe so u mean when i move and kill npc's with my mouse i should get ban ?

Yes, pixelbot as a program is not directly detectable by BP.
However like i already said you can detect using gathered data.

Two examples from top of my head:
1) Large amount of data on the user, run against behavioral algorithm - each human has it's habits and methods, you can see difference.
2) Collect speed of mousedown and mouseup events, you can see human don't press as fast/slow as program does.

iiKrYPtOniT3 · 11/08/2013, 16:41

first of all you guys don't own any accounts. BP owns your account. You just put money on it or fly it for them. So they can ban whoever they want when they want because who will have the ***** to sue them?

~~No0ne~~ · 11/08/2013, 18:39

Jd is only 17 years old so a kid. Not your father.