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Should I bot or not?
Discussion on Should I bot or not? within the DarkOrbit forum part of the Browsergames category.
07/22/2013, 12:24
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Then they need rly huge servers. For me it's just stupid to record EVERY move. Especially when player can fly by clicking or simply pressing mouse button.
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07/22/2013, 12:28
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Originally Posted by kamieniarz
Then they need rly huge servers. For me it's just stupid to record EVERY move. Especially when player can fly by clicking or simply pressing mouse button.
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Need a really big server? What? What are you on about? We log everything on our private server and almost 1 day worth of debug logs (with every single packet and value recorded) compresses to around 2mb of data. Thats tiny!
DarkOrbit could easily process the data live, limiting the data they would need to store. They could easily filter what data they want live and store only the stuff they actually need.
-jD
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07/22/2013, 12:31
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Originally Posted by »jD«
Wrong, they can record everything! It's there server, why can't they record it all?
Heres a list of what I think they use:
- Bots collect every single box on their screen going for the closest box next and moving on. Real players don't collect every single box (even if they try, they miss some) which is extremely obvious and easy to target
- Whilst bots may be able to have "random breaks", no matter how many breaks you take if you are online for 6 hours a day killing the same alien every single time, things start getting obvious.
- Bots generally collect boxes a lot more efficiently than players, which lead to a massive difference in "boxes per hour" for a real player and a bot, even a pixel bot.
- Someone who changes maps lots and then kills the same thing each time they change is not normal behaviour either.
- Whilst some bots have the ability to join groups and talk in chat, "Social" behaviour is HUGELY different between bots and players
The above is a TINY list of things they could use...
-jD
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Yes, and even though you are advised to change maps every 'x' minutes that might actually have a negative effect for you in the long run since, as you said, usually when a player changes maps he also changes his current "objective", meaning that you change a map for a reason, not to do the same thing you were doing to the previous one too.
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07/22/2013, 12:38
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But they said the script find the bot users 100%...it must be a awesome thing what they discovered or may IBot and Merkava sold the UID's for good money
I am not against Russian but I am sure that they sold the UID....
And Bigpoint is corupt too
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07/22/2013, 12:40
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Well so I was wrong O.o
I forgot about compresing ^^
Anyway I still think that every packet bot is detectable by game logs and there is no way to make safe packet bot.
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07/22/2013, 12:50
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Game logs has nothing to do with packet bots. :P
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Originally Posted by e-[G]-old[D]ie[O]ut
But they said the script find the bot users 100%...it must be a awesome thing what they discovered or may IBot and Merkava sold the UID's for good money
I am not against Russian but I am sure that they sold the UID....
And Bigpoint is corupt too
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Wrong, so very wrong. Doing that would open up so many legal issues for both bot sellers and Bigpoint. Whilst I agree that no script is 100%, not once have they advertised their new script as 100% accurate. I highly doubt (I almost know for sure) that no one sold UIDs for money. Also take into consideration that for two weeks in a row, their script worked almost perfectly. I highly doubt they were able to coordinate purchasing UIDs from multiple bot developers and then working a way in to ban them all within one week.
-jD
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07/22/2013, 13:12
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jD,you know that Bitpoint paid last year 30.000€ to an Russian Progger ? :/
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07/22/2013, 13:14
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jD,you know that Bitpoint paid last year 30.000€ to an Russian Progger ? :/
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How do you know? Where is your proof?
-jD
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07/22/2013, 13:46
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Game logs has nothing to do with packet bots. :P
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Yes it has! Trust me
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07/22/2013, 14:01
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How does it Kami?
-jD
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07/22/2013, 14:04
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How does it Kami?
-jD
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Just read it:
It's info I get about 1-2 years ago.
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07/22/2013, 17:08
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Same as OP i am wondering will botting like 2-3 hours per day be dangerous these days? lol
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07/22/2013, 17:09
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Originally Posted by Mladen3Gajic
Same as OP i am wondering will botting like 2-3 hours per day be dangerous these days? lol
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Every kind of botting is dangerous now.
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07/22/2013, 17:22
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Originally Posted by Mladen3Gajic
Same as OP i am wondering will botting like 2-3 hours per day be dangerous these days? lol
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Just botted 5 mins at palla with newbie lvl 12 account and got ban -_- So yes, it will be.
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