SRG or SDG

[Warlax]

if u 1 hit in sm doesnt matter how many sdg's u got, u still 1 hit, and still get the same xp

[~*NewDuuDe*~]

With a full SRG set you would level 3 times faster than a full sdg set. (3.15 times to be exact.)

I saw a guy on the co forums a yr back testing this out, and this was his result. It is true.

[galyutsinogen]

Originally Posted by ~*NewDuuDe*~

With a full SRG set you would level 3 times faster than a full sdg set. (3.15 times to be exact.)

I saw a guy on the co forums a yr back testing this out, and this was his result. It is true.

if we take for example, full 2 sock warrior wearing a wand, a total of 12 gems = 100% exp(basic) +300% exp, thats 4 times faster. Draggys would be 100% exp(basic) +180% attack, if not using SM, that should be same as 2.8 times faster since exp based on your amount of dmg, BUT if you use SM, it probably would be around 20.8 times faster, well that's what i think. This is for warrior.
And ninja would have 4.5 faster with srg, and 15.5 faster with sdg, using FS of course
This is IF the monster is "strong" (in hp) to get full dmg from your sdg set.

Any thoughts on this?

EDIT EDIT:
i'm not gonna edit the above, just gonna type here:
so lookie..
ummm, IF we take just the ninja and warrior with their boost attack skills and a SRG,SDG sets..

WARRIOR:
Lets take club+shield so he will have 14 gems like the ninja
SRG: what we have is 100% basic exp + 14*25=350, a total of 450% exp. 450*10x(SM) = 45 times faster lvling.
SDG: 100% basic dmg + 14*15=210, a total of 310% dmg, 310*10x(SM) = 31 times faster lvling ( IF THE MONSTER CAN TAKE ALL YOUR DMG ) for example if we lvl in frozen grotto 2
there are some little nuances, like the red and black mobs give a bit more exp ( its fixed as we know ) and stuff, +exp gained from killing the mobs..

If we don't 1-2 hit mobs, then srg's are useless, but if mobs have too little hp, sdg's are useless too, the only thing that maks sdg's better is that u can pvp better and for example finish quests faster.
I can't give a final conclusion, sitll needs to be checked.

NINJA:
everythig is the same, only we have 5x dmg so that makes the lvling:
SRG: 22.5 times faster
SDG: 15.5 times faster

Also we must not forget,that the faster we kill the faster we get our xp skill again, which is good for ninja since he has fixed time for xp skill.

P.S. THIS IS MY THOUGHTS ON LVLING WITHOUT BOTS/SCRIPTS AND SUCH, ONLY HAND-MADE.

[~*NewDuuDe*~]

A Warrior will allways be faster to level. I farm a war in a day with a 1 soc srg gear with comimic.
Even though ninjas get sick speed with FS, the same happens to wars, which are almost equally fast on there, meaning it lvls a lot faster, as you hit more dmg.

[Warlax]

Originally Posted by galyutsinogen

if we take for example, full 2 sock warrior wearing a wand, a total of 12 gems = 100% exp(basic) +300% exp, thats 4 times faster. Draggys would be 100% exp(basic) +180% attack, if not using SM, that should be same as 2.8 times faster since exp based on your amount of dmg, BUT if you use SM, it probably would be around 20.8 times faster, well that's what i think. This is for warrior.
And ninja would have 4.5 faster with srg, and 15.5 faster with sdg, using FS of course
This is IF the monster is "strong" (in hp) to get full dmg from your sdg set.

Any thoughts on this?

lol uve got ur logix wrong. say (for examples sake to make the numbers easy) a mob has 100 hp. u get 1 exp for each one of those hit points. you also get 100 exp for killing it. if i use full sdg and hit it for 198457948375934857345, i still only get 200 exp. however if i have 4 srg's, i would be getting 400 exp. if im using superman, i 1 hit everything anyway, thus dmg doesnt come into the equasion neway. sdg's just mean u can kill faster and thus get the mob killed 100 bonus xp quicker.

if u wanna make things really complicated:

with 100% sdg's i hit a hard mob for 2 dmg. this way i get double my normal xp (assuming i dont kill the mob), as im hitting him 2 rather than 1

however with 100% srg's (which uses less gem spots) i also get the same exp, cept it will take twice as long to kill, not that it matters, as i can sit at the same mob for longer, so instead of travelling between mob time not earning me xp, im now spending less time travelling (thus gaining more exp overall), but gaining equal xp per hit. also to have 100% sdg's ur talking 6 gem spots, whereas with srg's u only need 4, to effectly get the same result.

but of course if u are in sm and 1 hit the mobs in the first place, all of this is irrelivant, as sdg's will not give u any benefit what so ever

edit: and this mornin i reborned a ninja, and an less than an hour later he was lvl 86, and that was with slow settings coz i was testing summit new, so lol im pretty sure ninjas are WAY faster than warriors :P

edit 2: and he was 110 again well within 4 hours of rebirth, and as i said was testing shit so wasnt hardcore speed leveling it neither

[galyutsinogen]

i made some mistakes in the calculation, need to edit it, w8 for me to rethink this.
didn't see this comming, w8..

Ok, i edited my post #18 on page 2, take a look

@Warlax
about your post
first of all we get much more exp from hitting the mob than killing it

and here's the numbers:

WARRIOR:
SRG=45
SDG=31

NINJA:
SRG=22.5
SDG=15.5

it's exactly what we will get if he hit 1 dmg and get 1 exp
if we look at it,with srg a warrior kills a mob in 10 hits (10x1 dmg SM) and gets 450 exp
with dmg 4 hits (3.1*10 SM) and gets the basic 100 exp, only faster, he can get 250 exp for same 10 hits, the result is not 310, because of the mob hp.

so as the numbers state and we look at it, SRG owns, but if only we 1-2 hit mobs with them.

edit: if you use speed etc. hacks like co mimic, SV etc.. of course, why do u need a good attack if u do **** loads of hits and teleport.. lol.. just go full srg, aight xD

I'm not very into these SV, mimics and such, if i get banned or my char gets stolen, it would suck so bad, i would quit CO forever then.

[Warlax]

lol simple way around the getting accounts stolen problem, make ur own but yea hopefully ur now seeing the logic behind it. if u can 1 hit (which is we're pretending uve got full super 2 socketed gears (like we are for the num of gem multipliers) then if u cant 1 hit in superman, u mite as well kill urself) then sdg's are completely pointless. and seeing as the thread is origionally about plvling not pvping, sdg's are indeed completely pointless :P

[galyutsinogen]

everyone knows that.
and yea i got my own chars and they are good.So i don't need your advice in telling me to get my own.

i just wanna get whats betteh and farm some chars to earn dbs.

and SRG's is not the final conclusion. I'd say, until i test it my self or someone post the results of how,where and what did they do..

[Warlax]

***** u just love being akward dont u

[.bmg]

**** ill write this last 3rd time.. go full srg for war..

[galyutsinogen]

Originally Posted by Warlax

***** u just love being akward dont u

don't spamm in my thread with ur nonsense

Originally Posted by .bmg

**** ill write this last 3rd time.. go full srg for war..

and what about ninjas? you don't know untill you try ^_^
i have my full 2sdg so i have nothing to lose but to test this one, then make everything srg
cheers
will post the results later.. later later later.. xD

[TheBoyWhoLost]

As i already said. About 50/50 is the best.

I do all gears SRG except Weapon(s) and armor(s) those get SDGs.

[galyutsinogen]

will think about it, thx