Conquer Online 3.0 & Private server's

[_DreadNought_]

Hey, so me again, I know, stfu.

With the rapidly approaching of the probably **** new conquer online 3.0 which looks the same, What will this mean for private server? Are there any reverse engineer's and crackers left in the community to get people into the client? Are there any left at all? What if they don't release it to public?

Thoughts? What does the new release mean for private servers, a huge flood of co 3.0 servers or will it just stay the same?

--Don't get me wrong, I don't care about not getting any new crypts co 3.0 has--

[Korvacs]

Depending on what changes they make I might well take a look at it yeah.

[I don't have a username]

Well according to TQ then Conquer 3.0 will be a completely new game which means it will not be the same as the old, so expect all encryptions to be different and same probably goes for packet structures and whatever there is.

To be honest I don't think anyone of the "skilled" reverse engineers would waste their time on it, seeing as they're not even active here.

Unless you plan on doing it yourself then there probably isn't much hope.

[Korvacs]

If its a completely new client, completely new protocols etc then it might be abit of fun to see who can come up with what first.

[Spirited]

If you can find the game cipher key, then you can find the key bit length. If you know the key bit length, you have a better chance of figuring out what the game cipher is. As far as exchange, I doubt TQ will change out of the DH Key Exchange. It's still a very good system, and there's not too many exchange algorithms that can replace it. The password cipher is probably going to stay in there because it's still considered safe. The main change I'm expecting is their anti-bot cipher and algorithms for checking the legitimacy of the client. They aren't updating Conquer 2.0's anti-bot system, so I assume that's where the most change is going to lie. It's not a completely new client unfortunately. There have been pictures of Conquer 3.0, it's the same game engine. It would take years to make a new engine anyways - and TQ doesn't have the right engineers to make a better one. Making a private server for it shouldn't be too difficult. I just hope they replace their authentication cipher. It's so, so weak.

[I don't have a username]

Well TQ aren't alone about making the game, so you might take a look at EA and how they program their games as they will have an input on Conquer 3.0 as well which means it could be completely different than what we are used to ^^

[Spirited]

Originally Posted by I don't have a username

Well TQ aren't alone about making the game, so you might take a look at EA and how they program their games as they will have an input on Conquer 3.0 as well which means it could be completely different than what we are used to ^^

If they're using a new game engine by EA, I still doubt that they'd remake an entire server and client networking design for it. Knowing TQ, they won't remake the Conquer Online server. They'll use a 2.0 one as a model and build up from it. There's a lot that needs to be changed if they're going to remake so much of the features. I just highly doubt they'll change too much of the client's cipher algorithms and way of functioning. Their main focus isn't to keep private servers out - it's to keep botters out. I expect they'll use another game cipher from OpenSSL and I expect that they'll drastically change their anti-bot system. Past that will be a surprise for me.

[_DreadNought_]

I'm just interested to see if the client structure is still the same.

Has anybody found a closed-beta co 3.0 client on one of there ftp server's yet? (Wouldn't surprise me if you did tbh).


Wasn't aware of EA's input of it though, Detail?

Whatever happens it'll be interesting, who knows, maybe it will be a huge success bringing thousands of new players to conquer, and, I wont jinx it, but maybe, those new players would discover e*pvp and we'd get some more experienced developers around here.

And again, maybe, the community could get active, maybe. Depends entirely if EA can market the game off to be good.

[Spirited]

I just talked with someone from NetDragon Websoft (the people who publish the game and manage relations like that). EA is stepping in for their map and character designs. Conquer Online's graphics are out of date. The map pictures of Twin City was a test to see if the players wanted something new like that. EA has made games before with NetDragon (their game engine and graphics), so you can expect the same contribution in Conquer Online (that's what I was told). I wasn't given any details about the game engine, so I don't know if it's that they're remaking the engine or just building on top of the old one... but we'll see.

[ImmuneOne]

I might.

[CptSky]

I'll see based on what it looks like.

[InfamousNoone]

We'll see.

[sonofskeletor]

TQ has changed to much thats why people come looking at the private servers, because there unique and private servers also take players input unlike TQ, therefore i think everything will stay the same but, obviously some people will be messing in the clients to see if they can make the older versions 3D, my theory.