CoGenius Bot - The long awaited.

[Silent-Death]

wigga say what?
We also have only one Dev that takes care of all the work.
Do you really think we waste our time attacking other bots? wigga please..

Learn how to read and process what you are reading mate, I was, as friendly as possible, stating that we also experienced some attacks these past few days. I didn`t hate in any way and I didn`t act as a chrome seller. I thought that the logical leap would be made by the reader's brain, not needed to be fed with a spoon:
COG is attacked
CHROME is attacked
=> CHROME is not attacking COG.. makes sense?

Anyway, Dean good luck with this mate. Seems like a doozy..

[sadstar]

cog down again... this is really bad...
******* this haters...

[donn]

Originally Posted by demon17

May be the envy too big at you guys cause Dean(Trigorio) can handle all what your Team.

Maybe it's time to break the myth of Dean vs World:

• Chrome - 1 developer
• CoAI - 2 developers, each of them having his roles pretty well defined: 1 handling the API, encryption and restrictions, the other one all the rest
• CoGenius - 2 developers, 1 handling almost everything, and the other one forum stuff and a little coding (the new leveling plugin)

As I see the things, CoG is neither on the bottom of the list, or on top of it, regarding team size and man power involved. And, to my knowledge, Dean could have teamed up with a lot of good coder. He refused all of them. I'm in no position to judge him, and maybe he took the right decisions always. Just that, I don't think that anyone here can use as an excuse the size of the teams involved in any of the bots.

The other bots where DDoS-ed this days too. I am in no position to judge if the DDoS against them was at the same intensity as the one against CoG. I'm just saying that maybe the one doing it has something against all the bots.

[Trigorio]

Originally Posted by donn

Maybe it's time to break the myth of Dean vs World:

• Chrome - 1 developer
• CoAI - 2 developers, each of them having his roles pretty well defined: 1 handling the API, encryption and restrictions, the other one all the rest
• CoGenius - 2 developers, 1 handling almost everything, and the other one forum stuff and a little coding (the new leveling plugin)

As I see the things, CoG is neither on the bottom of the list, or on top of it, regarding team size and man power involved. And, to my knowledge, Dean could have teamed up with a lot of good coder. He refused all of them. I'm in no position to judge him, and maybe he took the right decisions always. Just that, I don't think that anyone here can use as an excuse the size of the teams involved in any of the bots.

The other bots where DDoS-ed this days too. I am in no position to judge if the DDoS against them was at the same intensity as the one against CoG. I'm just saying that maybe the one doing it has something against all the bots.

I'm sorry to say but that's no myth at all. I coded half of the cgleveler, I take care of all administrative work on the forum, I also have coded everything in CoGenius, then we have mods and DH helping out on the site, but which community doesn't?


CoAI has amabelle, yourself and soo many more, if you are going to count 2 developers on CoGen, then you might aswell count 4-5 on CoAI.

But it's 1 developer on CoGen and that's me, if DH was here he would of told you the same.

CGLeveler is a plugin, DH creating half of it suddenly makes us 2 developers for cog? What about your huntleveler plugin, you created it all by yourself yet CoAI still only has 2 developers? Give me a break.


Edit:
I agree with most of the rest you have to say, but don't come here trying to "clear" things up of things you have no clue of.

[danz4u]

Originally Posted by Trigorio

I'm sorry to say but that's no myth at all. I coded half of the cgleveler, I take care of all administrative work on the forum, I also have coded everything in CoGenius, then we have mods and DH helping out on the site, but which community doesn't?


CoAI has amabelle, yourself and soo many more, if you are going to count 2 developers on CoGen, then you might aswell count 4-5 on CoAI.

But it's 1 developer on CoGen and that's me, if DH was here he would of told you the same.

CGLeveler is a plugin, DH creating half of it suddenly makes us 2 developers for cog? What about your huntleveler plugin, you created it all by yourself yet CoAI still only has 2 developers? Give me a break.


Edit:
I agree with most of the rest you have to say, but don't come here trying to "clear" things up of things you have no clue of.

True Story Broo.

[donn]

Originally Posted by Trigorio

I'm sorry to say but that's no myth at all. I coded half of the cgleveler, I take care of all administrative work on the forum, I also have coded everything in CoGenius, then we have mods and DH helping out on the site, but which community doesn't?

This sounds pretty much like what I've said:

Originally Posted by donn

CoGenius - 2 developers, 1 handling almost everything, and the other one forum stuff and a little coding (the new leveling plugin)

Then :

Originally Posted by Trigorio

CoAI has amabelle, yourself and soo many more, if you are going to count 2 developers on CoGen, then you might aswell count 4-5 on CoAI.

Regarding this, Amabelle only did moonbox plugin for CoAI, I made HuntLeveler, ItemComposer, MeteorUpgrader, WarehouseManager (just to enumerate most of the important ones). But those are just plugins, they're not part of actual bot, but extensions to it.

And I'm pretty sure you're not forbidding anyone from CoG community to develop plugins. Sad thing that, after I left, no one developed (except new leveler) any important plugin for CoG. At least I saw some trying to update what I left behind (and this makes me remembering DH, claiming that CoG doesn't needs and will never need the source code of my plugins - not that you wouldn't been able to decrypt them, if needed).

We and others do the mod part too, as any other community, including CoG, has their mods. We and any other mod there have no access or merit for updating bot, servers, site, forums or whatever. So what I said still stands. As I saw, you kinda agreed on it too.

I have no intention to start some flame war. Just that, hiding behind the excuse "alone vs team" just doesn't justifies things.

We are all human, we all need to sleep or free time so I won't argue about offline times when those involved in maintaining their products are unable to fix things fast because of those human limits and necessities. Downtime measurable in hours are understandable things (among humans at least, even if some players - mostly from Egypt, no offense here - can't understand them. When downtime or impossibility to use bots to their full starts counting in days, yeah, we can talk about real problems that needs to be fixed in some way or another.

Just that, when I hear from fanboys (or fangirls) that some take more to fix things then others, because some work alone while others have huge teams behind ... let's not induce false ideas.

Once again, this is not to say a bot is better then other. I leave everyone to judge that on their own.

[Trigorio]

Only read the first snippet of your text, not reading all of what you said, I'm just going to repeat.

If you are going to state that CoG has 2 developers, then CoAI has 4-5, simple as that. If you are going to state that CoAI has 2 developers, then CoG has 1. Your choice.


Our plugins are extensions aswell, so I don't see how in any way we become 2 developers, when I am the one developing the core. Plugins are plugins, that's why they are called plugins.


If 5 people make 5 scripts for chrome, do we say that chrome has 5 + 1 developers, or do we say 1 developer? It would still be 1 developer, regardless of how many scripts/plugins were made by users.


Taking a glance at all your other text, I see it is way out of context, and stuff you just threw into the conversation, I am not discussing anything here, I am simply stating that there is 1 developer for CoG, not 10. Is it so hard to stick to 1 conversation without throwing in new topics?

[donn]

Originally Posted by Trigorio

If you are going to state that CoAI has 2 developers, then CoG has 1. Your choice.

Let's leave it like this. It's reflecting the reality very well. Glad we agree. And I'm sure we agree that 2 != huge team behind. Indeed, 2 == team, but not huge.

[diedwarrior]

Hybrid owns Dean hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Just joking, well the way I see it, who gives a **** how many people develop a bot? as long as its working fine I don't give a ****.
If you work solo, then there's plenty of people you could use for help, so yeah.

[danz4u]

Originally Posted by diedwarrior

Hybrid owns Dean hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Just joking, well the way I see it, who gives a **** how many people develop a bot? as long as its working fine I don't give a ****.
If you work solo, then there's plenty of people you could use for help, so yeah.

i was suppose to say that xD.

[stuwba]

cant log in cogenius again little peed off now

[CrimsonFart]

And it's off again... I don't really mind if it crashes because of an attack. That **** happens, but this is getting outta hand. Still hoping this gets fixed soon.

[Trigorio]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFart

And it's off again... I don't really mind if it crashes because of an attack. That **** happens, but this is getting outta hand. Still hoping this gets fixed soon.

Working on fixing a long term solution.

[maeann0206]

Originally Posted by Trigorio

Working on fixing a long term solution.

pleas...fix asap og cog...can't bot and can't login...the days are running..or have conpensation of days

[Trigorio]

Originally Posted by maeann0206

pleas...fix asap og cog...can't bot and can't login...the days are running..or have conpensation of days

Will be compensated as always so don't worry about your days.