UAV Detected

zebleer · 03/15/2022, 03:08

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Originally Posted by Gibblet07

UHHHH SO Yeah it was their UAV and all other who had perma advanced UAV.. but hey.. my other accounts that have only touched aimex still good.. So yeah when I bring up track record... MI is still new and isnt on par with your chair or Aimex's chair in security and detection.

Thanks for trashing me... pretty sure you had to put out a statement tonight regarding your uav getting detected as well.... and yeah when i bring up track record its about detections.. so i would never suspect aimex and my accounts that only use aimex work still... That said your chair is the most silky smooth zero FPS loss , amazing GUI and the esp is in my opinion the best on the market. if I came of abrasive it wasn't my intention... Im still keeping my life time with you guys because I have a feeling your chair is going to be even better going forward.

I do owe you an apology yes. I am sorry.

Gibblet07 · 03/15/2022, 03:13

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Originally Posted by zebleer

I do owe you an apology yes. I am sorry.

No you dont! this stuff happens! and I base my knowledge of things that Your self, Mobius and Zues have said in the past, also i think Moderns chair is amazing! its just starting out and I feel he will lock that sucker down and really give you three a run in the market but all in good fun. I do think that security does become better when these massive waves happen.... Also that streamer who got caught with your overlay lol... You need to teach a "how to use chair 101 for dummies" class to him lol

zebleer · 03/15/2022, 03:26

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Originally Posted by Gibblet07

No you dont! this stuff happens! and I base my knowledge of things that Your self, Mobius and Zues have said in the past, also i think Moderns chair is amazing! its just starting out and I feel he will lock that sucker down and really give you three a run in the market but all in good fun. I do think that security does become better when these massive waves happen.... Also that streamer who got caught with your overlay lol... You need to teach a "how to use chair 101 for dummies" class to him lol

Yeah, I am sure MI will lock their **** down now.

As for PO obviously we had no bans in this wave. Neither did AIMEX.

As for that dude, CMG ****** me off by posting that publicly. That was a violation of his privacy and they are taunting me like because they found his login to PO in his browser's saved passwords that they are the master anti-cheat.

Check my Telegram later tonight. I am going to **** them up.

I will release a full guide on how to hide from CMG and other tournament sites that you are active in cheating communities/purchase cheats & I will add all features needed to bypass their checks for cheats.

They will be ash soon. Specifically for today.

~~Shaddowwalker~~ · 03/15/2022, 03:37

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Originally Posted by zebleer

Yeah, I am sure MI will lock their **** down now.

As for PO obviously we had no bans in this wave. Neither did AIMEX.

As for that dude, CMG ****** me off by posting that publicly. That was a violation of his privacy and they are taunting me like because they found his login to PO in his browser's saved passwords that they are the master anti-cheat.

Check my Telegram later tonight. I am going to **** them up.

I will release a full guide on how to hide from CMG and other tournament sites that you are active in cheating communities/purchase cheats & I will add all features needed to bypass their cheats to my cheat.

They will be ash soon. Specifically for today.

The Phantom himself has spoken. ☝🏼

zebleer · 03/15/2022, 03:41

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Originally Posted by Shaddowwalker

The Phantom himself has spoken. ☝��

I'm telling you guys that really ****** me off. I talked to the victim of their privacy violation. BTW he didn't even have any active cheats with us & told me he wasn't cheating. His account was last year and VG subs were expired last year.

CMG will never have competitive integrity again. I'm going to hurt their business very badly.

LittleHooster · 03/15/2022, 03:47

That’s funny . MI and Mobius removed the uav from
Their cheat because they knew that would Get hit soon
Lol

Again big mistake for a security focused cheat provider add a feature such as “uav tool”

Welcome to the market world. Nothing is truthful

zebleer · 03/15/2022, 03:51

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Originally Posted by LittleHooster

That’s funny . MI and Mobius removed the uav from
Their cheat because they knew that would Get hit soon
Lol

Again big mistake for a security focused cheat provider add a feature such as “uav tool”

Welcome to the market world. Nothing is truthful

In their defense I don't think it was ever really apparent that one line of code writing something to memory in a way that was custom made by them (not pasted from UC) would cause problems.

My approach is a bit too much honestly which is why I dodged this. But half the things I refuse to add for security will never be targeted.

There are pros and cons.

Hindsight 20/20.

I am sure both of them will never make a mistake like this ever again.

0x41^4 · 03/15/2022, 06:23

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Originally Posted by LittleHooster

That’s funny . MI and Mobius removed the uav from
Their cheat because they knew that would Get hit soon
Lol

Again big mistake for a security focused cheat provider add a feature such as “uav tool”

Welcome to the market world. Nothing is truthful

To be fair, UAV tools were the safest on the market. This was the first ban they've had.

The problem was that too many people added them to their cheat and they were too easy to detect.

Same concept as small cheat providers and security. They remain under the radar as long as they remain small in consumer size, but once they get large enough to bring attention, they get focused and banned.

GG was a great example of this. Despite having extreme rage functions, they remained under the radar because they had a small userbase. Once they tripled in size, Activision told them to gtfo.

TheGreyMan · 03/15/2022, 06:26

I believe MI devs got pressured by the constant user request or the market for some specific features and added them. So far in their TG I am seeing 3 perma bans out of which 1 guy confessed himself to using a unlocker tool. So I dont think MI was detected. However, they should from now on consider what features they add.

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Originally Posted by 0x41^4

To be fair, UAV tools were the safest on the market. This was the first ban they've had.

The problem was that too many people added them to their cheat and they were too easy to detect.

Same concept as small cheat providers and security. They remain under the radar as long as they remain small in consumer size, but once they get large enough to bring attention, they get focused and banned.

GG was a great example of this. Despite having extreme rage functions, they remained under the radar because they had a small userbase. Once they tripled in size, Activision told them to gtfo.

By this analogy PO will be targeted soon.

0x41^4 · 03/15/2022, 06:50

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Originally Posted by TheGreyMan

I believe MI devs got pressured by the constant user request or the market for some specific features and added them. So far in their TG I am seeing 3 perma bans out of which 1 guy confessed himself to using a unlocker tool. So I dont think MI was detected. However, they should from now on consider what features they add.

MI was not nor is detected, they removed the UAV tool when they had information that there was a wave coming. This was done by investigating the less than 5 users who received shadowbans on the 9th, and then discovered the incoming wave. Without their expertise, they would've left it in had a few dozen banned.

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By this analogy PO will be targeted soon.

PO has been known by Activision for a long time, but Zebleer has various methods of ensuring security and takes special precautions in preserving the safety of his consumers. For example, this last wave, his sniffer discovered the security change which caught UAV's and shut the licenses down until he was able to examine the security changes on Activisions end.

Does this mean PO is immune to detections? No. No cheat is and no trustworthy developer would say that they are. At the end of the day, your favorite cheat provider is 1vXing a company evaluated at 23 billion dollars and if they want to **** all over you, they will. Zebleer just makes it significantly harder for them to do that.

TheGreyMan · 03/15/2022, 07:19

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Originally Posted by 0x41^4

MI was not nor is detected, they removed the UAV tool when they had information that there was a wave coming. This was done by investigating the less than 5 users who received shadowbans on the 9th, and then discovered the incoming wave. Without their expertise, they would've left it in had a few dozen banned.

PO has been known by Activision for a long time, but Zebleer has various methods of ensuring security and takes special precautions in preserving the safety of his consumers. For example, this last wave, his sniffer discovered the security change which caught UAV's and shut the licenses down until he was able to examine the security changes on Activisions end.

Does this mean PO is immune to detections? No. No cheat is and no trustworthy developer would say that they are. At the end of the day, your favorite cheat provider is 1vXing a company evaluated at 23 billion dollars and if they want to **** all over you, they will. Zebleer just makes it significantly harder for them to do that.

Man if you going to make rational arguments then whats the point of having a forum discussion. Comment like you are a mod on AA or paid by them.

zebleer · 03/15/2022, 08:06

@TheGreyMan I will have a discussion about this.

Yes provider popularity is one thing, but security and detection vectors matter too.

Less security & more features/code/general provided content by a cheat provider = more detection vectors for the anti-cheat to use to reliably ban only users of said cheat(s) and not legitimate players.

The entire world of Phantom Overlay is to minimize detection vectors and maximize security.

If Ricochet could have detected me, they would have by now. Where as with EO, they have easy access to 100's of detection vectors, so it's free whenever they want it.

LittleHooster · 03/15/2022, 11:39

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Originally Posted by 0x41^4

Same concept as small cheat providers and security. They remain under the radar as long as they remain small in consumer size, but once they get large enough to bring attention, they get focused and banned.

GG was a great example of this. Despite having extreme rage functions, they remained under the radar because they had a small userbase. Once they tripled in size, Activision told them to gtfo.

I’m glad that u changed your mind,
Last year when u used to recommend x22
I said that would prefer stay away from popular / rage provider
U replied that doesn’t matter this is not a fact for detection
Lol

I do remember .

lort1234 · 03/15/2022, 15:15

If people just would have listened instead of blaming someone for warning them.

0x41^4 · 03/15/2022, 21:38

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Originally Posted by LittleHooster

I’m glad that u changed your mind,
Last year when u used to recommend x22
I said that would prefer stay away from popular / rage provider
U replied that doesn’t matter this is not a fact for detection
Lol

I do remember .

It doesn't really matter.

The issue is when the size becomes an issue for media purposes.
The example I used of GG, they became EO in the sense that they instigated and taunted Activision.
Size alone isn't enough for them to go after someone, but when the size starts negatively impacting Activison, then they care.
A rage provider and a large provider are not the same.