lets see which cheat gets hit first

[zebleer]

Originally Posted by darix1

Lol passive aggressive threats, and stop associating me with AA in a way that i am their staff or representative, yes i am loyal to them, deeply and i respect them a lot, seems you taking this personally and i dont want to offend or mess with your business, and maybe you will also stop messing with others business, its funny you say i get free pass to beat your business into ground, while you are trying to do that with some other providers, jesus i am a simple person with a low level knowledge of this stuff but a mere user and thats it if i am capable of that, then ******* [Jokes]

Anyways this argument is useless its not taking us anywhere, do what you want lol, you can threat, you can share my nudes if you have them ,i know this is not the situation, but still wish you success with your business.

You already spelled it out, you are just a user with low knowledge of these things. You said it best.

I spent the last many years of my life here working hard, building up to do what I've done quickly with Phantom Overlay. So yes I take it seriously, glad you noticed.

I do not take kindly to you & some random 1-2 post accounts coming & bashing me baselessly just because I forwarded some info I heard about your favorite provider.

But sure, I'll stop "going after" AA. The countless times my users talk about terrible experiences with AA, I will just ignore it & assume they are lying. Or at the very least, I will no longer bring it here. Because I don't want to argue anymore.

[DariXOne]

Originally Posted by zebleer

I spent the last many years of my life here working hard, building up to do what I've done quickly with Phantom Overlay. So yes I take it seriously, glad you noticed.

I do not take kindly to you & some random 1-2 post accounts coming & bashing me baselessly just because I forwarded some info I heard about your favorite provider.

And gladly you should also know other providers also been in the same boat as you and they also dont appreciate you and your random fanboys coming here spreading hate and lies all the time, especially towards AA.

But i agree with you, i also dont want to argue anymore

[Buddy White]

Originally Posted by zebleer

You already spelled it out, you are just a user with low knowledge of these things. You said it best.

I spent the last many years of my life here working hard, building up to do what I've done quickly with Phantom Overlay. So yes I take it seriously, glad you noticed.

I do not take kindly to you & some random 1-2 post accounts coming & bashing me baselessly just because I forwarded some info I heard about your favorite provider.

But sure, I'll stop "going after" AA. The countless times my users talk about terrible experiences with AA, I will just ignore it & assume they are lying. Or at the very least, I will no longer bring it here. Because I don't want to argue anymore.

Zebleer ignore this clown and focus on integrating native controller support to PO so I can buy lifetime. I know tons of people who want controller support. 🙏🏻

[njhc21]

Originally Posted by zebleer

"Before i say anything, i am not against any provider, nor want talk shit about them except if they are fraud, and i dont think PO is any close to being a fraud, but the fact i lost trust in Zebleer/PO, when he started bashing and putting down every single provider on these forums, i dont think there was any provider left he didnt bash, but he corrected himself slowly every time someone stood up against his words and untruthful accusations against some providers, he started changing his tones accordingly."

Yes you are. You are against PO. You have always been against PO since the day PO came to EPVP. Don't lie.

I came here & said it how I saw it in terms of other providers. This resulted in me condemning AA & EO, while praising X22, AIMEX, and other good providers. You just so happen to be a big fan of AA, so we didn't get along instantly, and you have been after me ever since with a very huge bias.

"I knew in the beginning something is off and the way he does marketing is kinda unethical, but yet i remember someone wrote me ethics in selling cheats? lol, well what can i say, he was talking shit about EO while he had engineowning.io domain registered in his name and when you would access to that website it would send you to PO website, the fact that there is one particular provider that him and his buddies attack constantly and as many of you know its AA, i really dont know what AA did to him, but i think most his goal is trying to steal customers from AA since AA is one of largest providers out there i think they have bigger customer numbers than EO currently."

The way I do marketing is no where near unethical. All my users have to say is about what bad experiences they have at AA & EO, so I forward that to the public. After you kept crying, I even agreed I'd go less hard, and I stopped. But, you never stopped.

This was never about you correcting me. This was never about you getting me to stop telling it like it is with AA, it was about you getting me to stop so that you could proceed to bash PO every post you write without me being active as an opposition.

I told you I was going to stop, and I did. You kept going, so I'm back. This is your own fault. I was going to stop telling the truth about other providers but now I see that it was all just a trick. Nice one.

Also EngineOwning.io is funny. EO doesn't deserve to not be memed on for getting constantly detected & lying about it.

AA customers would never come to PO because they like feature rich rage cheats. I never tried to get them to me, I just tried to warn people what AA is all about, and when I was wrong or got a detail incorrect, I admitted I got bad info, and corrected myself. Something you will never do because you are here to hurt PO's brand & that's your only goal. Fuck the truth right?

"Lets not forget The facts that HelioS released his cheats 2 days after MW2019 release and never got detected until the hit on unlockers [Yet he warned everyone to use it at their own risk], the ones who didnt use unlocker were completely safe, and 2nd one didnt even target AA but general spoofers, which banned every single account that was registered to multiple HWID's, until HelioS changed his spoofing method, now we are safe since then."

Cool, that's not the experience I hear at all about people using AA, but I'm glad you like them. You like them, people like PO. Deal with it. I stopped attacking AA & you took it as a chance to just get free shots at PO. What a bum move.

"Always told Zebleer there will be consequences when you come and start making enemies, i wish he could just rest easy and focused in his own business instead poking into others business in the end we will see who comes on top"

I did that. I said sorry, said I didn't want enemies, edited my posts, and did that, for weeks. But, you never stopped. You just took it as a chance to shit talk PO without retaliation. If you had also stopped, we'd be at peace, but you didn't. So here I am, back to tell the truth.

AA has horrible customer service, scams their users when they ban them for no reason without a refund, can't handle strong anti-cheats, takes forever to update, has had many detections since Warzone launch on the weakest anti-cheat I've ever seen, has lied about detection causes, and has a shitty spoofer.

There we go. The truth.

"But dont forget AA have more than 100.000 customers while PO have 1500 i think? so you do the comparison here, larger providers are always risky but the fact AA kept their cheat safe for that long requires talent especially with such large userbase and being known since 2006, and HelioS have that talent since 90s so i put my trust in him and not into anyone else."

Fine, go enjoy AA. That's fine. But that's not what you do, is it? You come attack PO, after I stopped, because you can't help yourself. So it's back on.

"On a side note: I trust Aimex too, i need an external cheat for streaming on discord, and Aimex never disappointed me, i respect them as they are focusing on their own business and not poking around, there are other talented providers out there such as elusion they are also external and in my opinion they will go private for their cod cheats."

Go buy AIMEX then. I like AIMEX. I support them all the time here. It's only AA & EO that I have said bad things about.

"In the end time will tell and good luck to everyone"

Besides PO, who you will constantly bash even after I've stopped talking for weeks.


It's not. I've always been fine with people representing the brands they enjoy. The problem comes when people like you declare a provider an enemy & bash them despite the reality of that provider being good.

If EO or AA cleaned up their act, I'd stop bashing them.

You told me the problem with PO was that I bash providers, so I stopped, and for weeks you kept bashing me about other made up things. So yes, you and I operate differently.

& now I'll never stop because I know it's just a trap to make me stop so you can keep going.

mother of christ this is too much to unpack.. this is about the 100th thread ive seen completely derailed by you recently.

all of this drama is what we call in sales, smoke and mirrors. it works when you have an inferior product and a moronic demographic that will believe in your product based on your unchecked word. it relieves the anxiety of not having experienced all other options and fulfills a need for confidence in their purchase.. without having to do any work. the result being DIEHARD customers, because to ever admit that their provider is not the best, would be admitting that they fell for the pitch, got sold and bought a shit product like a fucking retard.

Zeb, your cheat is good. not the best in any category, bluntly.

yet you routinely hijack every thread to spread rumors, talk shit, and in the rare occasion you get a response from a competitor, back down like a high school girl.

bitch behavior.

[MK-DOS]

Originally Posted by njhc21

Zeb, your cheat is good. not the best in any category, bluntly.

I really don’t want to get into any drama, but I beg to differ on this one, and again this is all my own opinion.

He is the best when it comes to updates, so I don’t know why it’s hard to see that with auto update. In terms of the rest of categories he might not be the best but I bet he is on the top par with some of them and simply just not alone.

Now, I don’t see anything wrong when customers are happy with a service/product and praise it, so why do you guys get **** hurt about it?

Am I now a paid shell because I didn’t say screw you and F you Zeb?

I personally used his service and I liked them. Is it the best for my personal use and needs? Well Yes and No, I use them as my main chair for one game but not the other as for me personally it’s missing one important aspect in the other game.

The dude wants to speak up his mind then let him be… he always stood behind what he said… as far as I see EO responded to him once and told him that they won’t just seat on their **** once the ricoshit goes live… Now which one of the two are up and running with no issues?

I leave that to you to answer it!!

PS: The dude has been nothing but a great guy to deal with, and I’m gonna base it on what I have experienced personally not from what I hear or read from others claiming something out of thin air!!

[DariXOne]

Originally Posted by MK-DOS

The dude wants to speak up his mind then let him be… he always stood behind what he said… as far as I see EO responded to him once and told him that they won’t just seat on their **** once the ricoshit goes live… Now which one of the two are up and running with no issues?

!

What I am going to write now is nothing against PO, seems anything i write or try to correct some fan boys start calling me clown and other names, just writing this as a general info even though many knows but seem to forget.

Not defending EO, but you guys put their huge userbase into consideration, Why would Activision waste their time or any other ac to specifically target a provider that have less than 2000 users, while they can target huge providers like AA or EO, x22 and so on, so some providers survived so far without any bans have low number of users, and its a fact, so anyone who wants to cheat on a precious account that you care about and dont want to get banned fast, then you have 2 choices.

1- Dont cheat
2- Choose a provider that have low number of customers, but dont get it wrong, no matter what, if you cheat then there is a risk of getting banned

And EO had it coming after they trolling Acitivision on twitter and other social media platforms, so they really asked for it, while AA always trying to keep it under the radar, and no provider survives a targeted detection no matter what, small or big.

[MK-DOS]

Originally Posted by darix1

What I am going to write now is nothing against PO, seems anything i write or try to correct some fan boys start calling me clown and other names, just writing this as a general info even though many knows but seem to forget.

Not defending EO, but you guys put their huge userbase into consideration, Why would Activision waste their time or any other ac to specifically target a provider that have less than 2000 users, while they can target huge providers like AA or EO, x22 and so on, so some providers survived so far without any bans have low number of users, and its a fact, so anyone who wants to cheat on a precious account that you care about and dont want to get banned fast, then you have 2 choices.

1- Dont cheat
2- Choose a provider that have low number of customers, but dont get it wrong, no matter what, if you cheat then there is a risk of getting banned

And EO had it coming after they trolling Acitivision on twitter and other social media platforms, so they really asked for it, while AA always trying to keep it under the radar, and no provider survives a targeted detection no matter what, small or big.

Alright let me make it clear as well, I didn’t write that as well for AA clown fans with brown nose from kissing their **** either. Im just stating from what I have seen in this forums in general so that we are clear.

[SonGoku009]

Originally Posted by MK-DOS

I really don’t want to get into any drama, but I beg to differ on this one, and again this is all my own opinion.

He is the best when it comes to updates, so I don’t know why it’s hard to see that with auto update.

Just saying, AA for example is only down for big updates and then not even everytime ... With the new map dropping it took them few hours to be back on release day.

I never saw their downtime to be longer than few hours. Including 98 Games!

When it comes to EO..... Well not surprised here since they have to find a Coder first and pay them..

[Hard006]

Originally Posted by zebleer

Phantom Overlay updated & supports Ricochet anti-cheat. I did a lot of work with this anti-cheat, & I hope everyone enjoys.





What a lie. Only EngineOwning was detected. Everyone else is fine. I have maybe 1 user per day posting they got shadow banned in our Telegram, then when asked about it they admit they used EO spoofer/another spoofer plus some unlockers and other cheats. Just because people report things in my chat doesn't mean it's from my cheat. Everyone else besides these 1 a day people are fine. Hundreds.

It's a cool photo shop/meme but it's completely incorrect & I recognize you as well, always trashing PO with nonsense. Just deal with the fact that some people enjoy using PO, you don't, and there's no problem there.


Can't wait for you to be another shill for a competitor provider, here to make your very first PO talking shit about PO over something that's never even happened.

You know you've made it when the only bad things people can say about you are fantasies that they want to happen, that haven't.


You assume by this reply that you will ever convince them to use their brains. They are planted here from other providers. They won't listen to the truth of 100's of users having great experiences.


1. I have been around a long time, and many people here have known me by my other names when I sold privately, and used my work for EAC/BE. I am simply advertising the truth, that many know, and if you don't believe me, just wait then.

2. I had a lot of users unhappy with me for only offering pre-order of lifetime during VG beta, so I allowed them a chance to hop in during the ending days. I stopped those sales before beta ended. Nothing scummy about that IMO, in fact I/my users think the opposite.

Please tell whatever provider sent you here to sales trash me that they're better off just improving their product.


It's a funny meme but it's untrue.


04 has been a private user of mine for a long time now. He's obviously going to rep PO when PO is basically all he uses for his cheating needs, COD or with EAC/BE. Wouldn't you? Have you never been a fan of a business enough to speak highly of them? I know I have.

No that ass**** 04 said he knew 0 private cheat providers so he is a lying ass****

[GrawPoint]

Originally Posted by darix1

Edit: Sorry i think i mixed it up, true there was a detection , i missed that one out, he actually figured out what happened and fixed it in a matter of 2 hours

Yes, I remember that, they were the fastest to recover from detection when it took others weeks, I'll give them that.

I think it's getting a little bit heated in the comments here, ***, I never intended to start a fight between users here, all I did was share about my shadowban recently until some idiots came here and started talking nonsense on how my shadowban is directly correlated to me being a PO user which is complete udder nonsense, I am not sure what exactly caused my shadowban, but this account (has MW and CW) I've purchased for a cheap price, used bot lobbies and services for unlocks, used multiple spoofers and cleaners to play on it, these are all factors that maybe be contributing to it especially with the Ricochet release.

[Hard006]

Originally Posted by Buddy White

Zebleer ignore this clown and focus on integrating native controller support to PO so I can buy lifetime. I know tons of people who want controller support. 🙏🏻

Zebleer ignore buddy white, who cares about controllers. Thanks and Keep up the good work

[zebleer]

Originally Posted by njhc21

mother of christ this is too much to unpack.. this is about the 100th thread ive seen completely derailed by you recently.

all of this drama is what we call in sales, smoke and mirrors. it works when you have an inferior product and a moronic demographic that will believe in your product based on your unchecked word. it relieves the anxiety of not having experienced all other options and fulfills a need for confidence in their purchase.. without having to do any work. the result being DIEHARD customers, because to ever admit that their provider is not the best, would be admitting that they fell for the pitch, got sold and bought a shit product like a fucking retard.

Zeb, your cheat is good. not the best in any category, bluntly.

yet you routinely hijack every thread to spread rumors, talk shit, and in the rare occasion you get a response from a competitor, back down like a high school girl.

bitch behavior.

A few weeks ago I announced here on EPVP that I was done being active here other than defending myself & my brand or replying to my customers/questions about PO.

Needless to say, you guys can't help yourself. All you do is talk about me. So, all I do is come here to reply.

If you really want my name to stop showing up here, keep my name out of your posts. It's that simple.

As for your claims, just because you know of a sales term doesn't mean you can apply it anywhere you want. My cheats are all made 1:1 with how I deal with EAC. I'm allowed to advertise about that.

My brand is that I treat games with weaker ACs like they are EAC from my security to how my aimbot works to how my cheat functions as a whole to how much I reverse anti-cheat measures.

There is no "smoke" here, I really do what I say.

But again, all you have to do is stop trying so hard to get PO out of the top position, and I will be. I'm not going to call you a "shill" but it's very clear that you & others have the motivation of being under or a fan of another brand other than PO, and you want PO out of the way so your brand can pass PO. I have great news, all you have to do is shut up about PO & results will come. I hope I've explained this well enough to get some gears turning in your brain, so you can stop trying to apply sales terms falsely & start helping your brand succeed more.

Originally Posted by Hard006

No that ass**** 04 said he knew 0 private cheat providers so he is a lying ass****

For a very long time none of my users were allowed to talk about my private cheats. That's only recently changed, and even still, I'd rather them not say specifically what games they have so people don't try to RAT them or manipulate them or pay them or something to gain access. I'm a paranoid person.

So don't blame him for following my requests.

Originally Posted by Hard006

Zebleer ignore buddy white, who cares about controllers. Thanks and Keep up the good work

I'd have native support but my aimbot doesn't use view angles (like I said, I always act like I'm dealing with strongest version of EAC).

I will make some sauce for controllers soon but for now I just refund anyone who doesn't like the REWASD support or using controller input with no aimbot.

[userinactive]

SO much wasted time arguing here....

Stop using cheats, get good!!!!!!

[zebleer]

Originally Posted by GoldenCheats

SO much wasted time arguing here....

Stop using cheats, get good!!!!!!

I miss the days when it was you & I feuding man. These new people are brainless. I at least respected you as an opponent.

Tell Activision to sit on a pole & open back up.

[meymeygila]

Originally Posted by zebleer

I miss the days when it was you & I feuding man. These new people are brainless. I at least respected you as an opponent.

Tell Activision to sit on a pole & open back up.

Look at the mirror, all these arguments always started by PO supporters. Mine is the best your is not and bla bla, same **** everyday. Grow the **** up.