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[Endecs]

I already wrote one for the Update:





I wrote it for 1 User (paid), so it will be released for sale soon, when my new Website is up.

greets,
Endecs

[DeltaBot]

I can imagine there's a number of limitations in your bot endecs, from the looks of it. I have some questions.

Your bot looks very rigid and static, with not much modularity.

1. How will it handle horses that have had the target skill already trained, or actions already done? If it tries to do those actions, you could be flagged as a bot.

2. Does your bot do foal games?

3. Do you have plans on creating an automatic BLUPing system?

4. How does your system timetable the horses day to maximise time and energy? Does it automatically structure an optimum sequence of actions, or follow a preset list?

5. What anti-detection methods do you have in place?

6. Can you do select number of horses, or does it just do all of them? Your bot isn't clear on whether it's listing breeding farms or not.

[Xavierbot]

Hope you are checking the POST you're sending with the JS code.
Otherwise, every bot users will be ban in a few days.

[Endecs]

Originally Posted by DeltaBot

I can imagine there's a number of limitations in your bot endecs, from the looks of it. I have some questions.

Your bot looks very rigid and static, with not much modularity.

Hey, I'm glad you ask.
So let me answer your questions.

Originally Posted by DeltaBot

1. How will it handle horses that have had the target skill already trained, or actions already done? If it tries to do those actions, you could be flagged as a bot.

The Bot sure checks, if it's possible to train the Skill or do any action, before he really does.
It's not my first Bot, when you look in my history, I already wrote enough Bots, to know how to write them undetectable.

Originally Posted by DeltaBot

2. Does your bot do foal games?

"foal games"? If you mean, if it can handle foal's or get the foal out of the mother horse, yes it can.

Originally Posted by DeltaBot

3. Do you have plans on creating an automatic BLUPing system?

Do you mean a "Plugin system"?

Originally Posted by DeltaBot

4. How does your system timetable the horses day to maximise time and energy? Does it automatically structure an optimum sequence of actions, or follow a preset list?

Currently just follow the preset list, but it's not a problem to change things.
It's still in development, currently I'm working with my partners on a Board system, so users can share there experience and also give suggestions.

Originally Posted by DeltaBot

5. What anti-detection methods do you have in place?

There I can't say much, but as first, the bot isn't that static as you said, the real "random" and "human" like playing is behind the UI.

Originally Posted by DeltaBot

6. Can you do select number of horses, or does it just do all of them? Your bot isn't clear on whether it's listing breeding farms or not.

You can select your breeding and it's does all the horses, like the bot from Andy.
But also it's not a Problem to exclude any horse from the breed from any action. As I said, you as my customer can wish, what you want to be added or changed.

Originally Posted by Xavierbot

Hope you are checking the POST you're sending with the JS code.
Otherwise, every bot users will be ban in a few days.

The Bot is now over 2-3 Weeks with 10 members active and no one get any problems.

greets,
Endecs

[Xavierbot]

Well, he meant BLUPing and not Plugin.
You obviously don't know the game and you want create a bot about -- ?
Anyway, you don't answer to my question at all, saying there is no ban for now doesn't mean you're checking the request you send.

[Endecs]

Originally Posted by Xavierbot

Well, he meant BLUPing and not Plugin.
You obviously don't know the game and you want create a bot about -- ?
Anyway, you don't answer to my question at all, saying there is no ban for now doesn't mean you're checking the request you send.

I don't need to know a game, to create a Bot.
When there is something missing and the user describe, what he is missing, I will take a look at it.

Then describe your meaning of "checking the POST" messages.
I don't execute any of there JS, so when they ban because of not executing JS, just say, you use NoScript or something else.
When they change there Post Method in the Bot will know this and shutdown himself.
So when you have any suggestion about this, write it down.

greets,
Endecs

[DeltaBot]

Originally Posted by Endecs

so when they ban because of not executing JS, just say, you use NoScript or something else.

No. You can't play the game without JS, so saying you use NoScript means you shouldn't be able to play at all, and they can see that you have anyway from your bot. Also, you don't load the CSS and images, and that's highly suspect.

You cannot assume they do immediate bans - most games don't. They do delayed bans, dependent on how much the player is messing up the game, to ensure the bot makers have no way of knowing what triggered the ban.

The POST requests can change at any time, or they may have requirements beyond what you can see in the HTML (and may be in the JS). The POST requests the game uses are done through a special JS function, and with tiny modifications can detect your bot instantly. If you don't load JS, and operate from it, you can be caught.

[Endecs]

Originally Posted by DeltaBot

No. You can't play the game without JS at all, so saying you use NoScript means you should've be able to play at all, and they can see that you have. Also, you don't load the CSS and images, and that's highly suspect.

Ok, here you're right. Checked the game with JS blocker.

Originally Posted by DeltaBot

You cannot assume they do immediate bans - most games don't. They do delayed bans, dependent on how much the player is messing up the game, to ensure the bot makers have no way of knowing what triggered the ban.

I know how companies do they bans, just take a look to WoW, they ban also just in waves, just sometimes only a handful player, but this was always manually.

Originally Posted by DeltaBot

The POST requests can change at any time, or they may have requirements beyond what you can see in the HTML (and may be in the JS). The POST requests the game uses are done through a special JS function, and with tiny modifications can detect your bot instantly. If you don't load JS, and operate from it, you can be caught.

My POSTS are never static, they always check the content of the "Form".
When they add something, it will be also added.
Also it's possible to shutdown the Bot, when they add something new.
So it's always depending, what the Bot writer holds for the best.

You can't say any Bot is 100% secure, this is a running game with the companies and the Bot writer.
Even Bossland GmbH get's caught with there Bots for Blizzard(TM), even with more then only one of the best developer/reverser in the scene.


greets,
Endecs

[Xavierbot]

Originally Posted by Endecs

My POSTS are never static, they always check the content of the "Form".
When they add something, it will be also added.
Also it's possible to shutdown the Bot, when they add something new.
So it's always depending, what the Bot writer holds for the best.

Well, here is an example of the form you're probably speaking of :

<form onsubmit="return new Action.Cheval(this, '/doGroom').send();" class="sowcle-form" action="javascript:;" method="post" id="form-do-groom"><input type="hidden" name="csrf_token" value="42197bb5709ca317e630aedc4c3ddb67" /><input name="form-do-groom6273362045" id="form-do-groom6273362045" type="hidden" value="23340589"/></form>

The fact is that it is calling a javascript function. So you also must check the JS code after each page you loaded. This is a problem, because checking the JS code means download and interpret it. Anyway, make sure to check the JS code, and not only the form.

[Petty.]

Gibts nun mittlerweile einen neuen Bot ? :$

[Ludder231]

Originally Posted by Petty.

Gibts nun mittlerweile einen neuen Bot ? :$

der Bot ist vielleicht was.

[DeltaBot]

Originally Posted by Ludder231

der Bot ist vielleicht was.

That bot has many issues, and not many features.

[Ludder231]

[Endecs]

Originally Posted by DeltaBot

That bot has many issues, and not many features.

Dann schau dir mal diesen an, im Thread stehen unten die Zugangsdaten zum testen.



greets,
Endecs