[Project] Archlord Emulator

[Wylgie]

CC shop like in justac is good I think. Dont try the comunist **** that overshitcar tried to do xD Comunism will never work in any way.

I hope this server work and dont get attacked or some **** by justac...

[bobson221]

Originally Posted by 'Arthion.

CC pots and Lens at merchant, rest at chantra shop.
Osiy already said this a few times.

I like it. Will be much easier to earn some $$ from the game for me

[starforce11]

Well count me in !

[Ryis]

Don't make cc too cheap, keep most the way they were, just lower suits to 250 cc and take scrolls down to about 150... We don't want to make it too easy...

[Divya/Vorsakend]

so, hi again. i read almost all comments but i didn;;t saw a topic about the skills

The effect on HH skills will work as in wz? i mean fear, hold, bla bla
Also the skills and buffs balance will be as the begining (drwx version) or updated like justac or wz?

Also since i understand it will be ep8? i know wz planned on ep8 lv 150 increase and here with the rates you plan 150% will be low ones for this lvl i guess 250-300% would be ok.

[osiy1996]

@
Hold/Fear effects won't work initally and once they work they'll have a fair cooldown so you won't be able to perma fear someone. All skill stats are same as they were in April 2013.

I'm not planning to increase level cap. Required exp will be lower for later levels so even though the % will be the same you'll get levels slightly faster. Then again, I'm not planning to have a fast paced server, there're servers providing that sort of service better than I could.

[kidselassa]

Originally Posted by Divya/Vorsakend

so, hi again. i read almost all comments but i didn;;t saw a topic about the skills

The effect on HH skills will work as in wz? i mean fear, hold, bla bla
Also the skills and buffs balance will be as the begining (drwx version) or updated like justac or wz?

Also since i understand it will be ep8? i know wz planned on ep8 lv 150 increase and here with the rates you plan 150% will be low ones for this lvl i guess 250-300% would be ok.

I also got my questions about the balance after the test server, i know that the first weeks/months wil be to find buggs etc,
The last rebalance WZ had don't remember which EP that was everybody played humans and some races like elfs scion were dead
Justac had a pretty good balance before the infernum patch

[marius1851]

so much qq for cc prices dude just dont go the p2w roud like webzen/justac end all the other servers, i dont own **** but my time so if i pley archlord y pley it for nostalgia like wow pleyers pleyd nosgod vanila privat server no p2w **** end no get rich fastt all old games are pleyd cuz of nostalgia end not a lott of ppl have the time like 10yers ago to perma farm end camp farm spots cuz fk my life i have non we grown men now just quit it with the farm TIL you DIE **** by mi opinio shuld belike 50% clasic ah end 50% justac but det just my 2 cents sry for my eng

[bobson221]

Originally Posted by marius1851

so much qq for cc prices dude just dont go the p2w roud like webzen/justac end all the other servers, i dont own **** but my time so if i pley archlord y pley it for nostalgia like wow pleyers pleyd nosgod vanila privat server no p2w **** end no get rich fastt all old games are pleyd cuz of nostalgia end not a lott of ppl have the time like 10yers ago to perma farm end camp farm spots cuz fk my life i have non we grown men now just quit it with the farm TIL you DIE **** by mi opinio shuld belike 50% clasic ah end 50% justac but det just my 2 cents sry for my eng

Archlord is a pay to win game, no matter what prince of each CC thing he will set.
Archlord = MMORPG and every MMORPG game is like P2W.

But it's fine, we can deal with it since CC things were usually available for gold in game. I think Ryis's idea was the best. Put 250 cc per suits and 150 per scrolls to make them more valuable in game.

[marocco56]

Also call it "cc" for nostalgia :P And that CM cursor on the video also keep it, i love it !!

[arae]

Hi again, someone made a comment of balance in this thread and i wanted to point out somethings and suggest somethings about AL and the economy that goes with it/feeds its success.

The Price of Marvel Scrolls and its importance:

1. Marvel scrolls should be at least 4 euro per scroll.

Reason being is that the value of them will maintain a way to buy certain high level things in one trade (ex. gold ticket = 12 scrolls + gold or whatever). If they were cheap like 50 cents (justac) you cannot get anything special in one trade because the value of the scroll is basically not worth enough for the item wanted. This keeps the game more off of paypal and into the server.

2. Free scroll in buddy system

The game needs this, this gives a way for people who have no choice but to play for free or who just choose to play for free a way to get anything with hard work/continued play. Also a huge point to this is it attracts new people, through joining a friend on the server your pretty much assured a way into the economy for free just for leveling up to 70 (dont remember the requirement). Of course you will have people who do this over and over as way to gain high end stuff like gold and premium tickets, but that is the free option and it takes much time.


3. Understanding how marvel scroll is good to AL

The marvel scroll is good to archlord not only for the ability to trade bound items or the ability to purchase other items with scrolls, but it is also good because it is the one and only item in the CC shop that is not power based and hence does not alter game balancing! (yaaaah for marvel scroll the first balanced item in AL lol). Meaning that trading these impact no hard value of the game in terms of power. Example being a person is buying 20 euro of cc in game and spending 16 of that on scrolls (4 sc), a item that does not directly add power through a source of buying but is a way to get things or trade things you or someone DROPPED in game not BOUGHT.

4. Price of other cc in relation to marvel scroll price

The price of other things in the shop should be cheaper because of the need of price increase to marvel scrolls value. If you had to put the cc shop into 4 categories i think it would be:
A. CC potions: all time based potions like hp pot and combi etc.
B. Boosters: items such as Toa, Toh, Suits, Pets.
C. Utilities: passport scrolls, sog, destiny, release, return, soe etc.
D. Broken (lol): Cloaks, ring chest, tickets, race box, premium box etc

Things in section A should be very cheap, or even free with the exception of combi, but the combi should be cheaper, about 50 cents per stack is fair right? Making a scroll worth 8 combi stack, this way its not free but its not like unable to afford either, making things very F2P and less P2W. Combi is a big need to some people at all times and on a private server why not let that be a thing?


Things in section B should be partially based off of the xp/drop percentage you plan to use for start of server. If you plan to have closer to 150% xp rate these things should be cheaper even down to 10 and 20 cent per 1 day. If you plan to be up towards 500% xp rate they should be more expensive up to like 1 dollar and 2 dollars per 1 day. If you plan to add "OP" suits then id put it in the D section (lol)


Things in section C are all things that teleport or edits or allows you to chat server wide, this section would vary in price of course but main thing here is to have soe reasonable but not so cheap to create spam(3 bucks per 100?). All the other items that would be described a utility cant really be exploited or add any type of power so i think they shouldn't be more than a dollar but not less than 50 cents.

Things in section D are things where it should be the most expensive with only a few exceptions. The exceptions should be with price of things that justac has like ring spirit/cloaks, you should keep the same price or make it a little cheaper, i know the goal is to create a slower paced server but those 2 things you cant make it more than they have it in my opinion.

THE PROBLEM: The stuff you have and justac dont have like race boxes, premium boxes, fortune gates, Janus/sezarens, and inventory extension you have to be very careful of the price! If you make the boxes too cheap it can effect the pace of the server, flooding it early with scions and ashtals and refined uniques, not to mention gold ticket request lol which admin have to do weekly.

Thing is if you make it too expensive people will complain that your server is fully P2W and webzen part 2. This is because some people will spend no matter how much the boxes are if the reward of opening the box is as big as gold tickets ashtals n scions etc.

The SOLUTION: A. Either let the boxes be expensive like webzen + have the items dropable for free in the world by some hard method of refining or something dropping from some boss. Or B. take that content out of the server until later months when new stuff is needed and economy is established to better know where prices should be on this.





done :P

[zaragkito]

Originally Posted by arae

Hi again, someone made a comment of balance in this thread and i wanted to point out somethings and suggest somethings about AL and the economy that goes with it/feeds its success.

The Price of Marvel Scrolls and its importance:

1. Marvel scrolls should be at least 4 euro per scroll.

Reason being is that the value of them will maintain a way to buy certain high level things in one trade (ex. gold ticket = 12 scrolls + gold or whatever). If they were cheap like 50 cents (justac) you cannot get anything special in one trade because the value of the scroll is basically not worth enough for the item wanted. This keeps the game more off of paypal and into the server.

2. Free scroll in buddy system

The game needs this, this gives a way for people who have no choice but to play for free or who just choose to play for free a way to get anything with hard work/continued play. Also a huge point to this is it attracts new people, through joining a friend on the server your pretty much assured a way into the economy for free just for leveling up to 70 (dont remember the requirement). Of course you will have people who do this over and over as way to gain high end stuff like gold and premium tickets, but that is the free option and it takes much time.


3. Understanding how marvel scroll is good to AL

The marvel scroll is good to archlord not only for the ability to trade bound items or the ability to purchase other items with scrolls, but it is also good because it is the one and only item in the CC shop that is not power based and hence does not alter game balancing! (yaaaah for marvel scroll the first balanced item in AL lol). Meaning that trading these impact no hard value of the game in terms of power. Example being a person is buying 20 euro of cc in game and spending 16 of that on scrolls (4 sc), a item that does not directly add power through a source of buying but is a way to get things or trade things you or someone DROPPED in game not BOUGHT.

4. Price of other cc in relation to marvel scroll price

The price of other things in the shop should be cheaper because of the need of price increase to marvel scrolls value. If you had to put the cc shop into 4 categories i think it would be:
A. CC potions: all time based potions like hp pot and combi etc.
B. Boosters: items such as Toa, Toh, Suits, Pets.
C. Utilities: passport scrolls, sog, destiny, release, return, soe etc.
D. Broken (lol): Cloaks, ring chest, tickets, race box, premium box etc

Things in section A should be very cheap, or even free with the exception of combi, but the combi should be cheaper, about 50 cents per stack is fair right? Making a scroll worth 8 combi stack, this way its not free but its not like unable to afford either, making things very F2P and less P2W. Combi is a big need to some people at all times and on a private server why not let that be a thing?


Things in section B should be partially based off of the xp/drop percentage you plan to use for start of server. If you plan to have closer to 150% xp rate these things should be cheaper even down to 10 and 20 cent per 1 day. If you plan to be up towards 500% xp rate they should be more expensive up to like 1 dollar and 2 dollars per 1 day. If you plan to add "OP" suits then id put it in the D section (lol)


Things in section C are all things that teleport or edits or allows you to chat server wide, this section would vary in price of course but main thing here is to have soe reasonable but not so cheap to create spam(3 bucks per 100?). All the other items that would be described a utility cant really be exploited or add any type of power so i think they shouldn't be more than a dollar but not less than 50 cents.

Things in section D are things where it should be the most expensive with only a few exceptions. The exceptions should be with price of things that justac has like ring spirit/cloaks, you should keep the same price or make it a little cheaper, i know the goal is to create a slower paced server but those 2 things you cant make it more than they have it in my opinion.

THE PROBLEM: The stuff you have and justac dont have like race boxes, premium boxes, fortune gates, Janus/sezarens, and inventory extension you have to be very careful of the price! If you make the boxes too cheap it can effect the pace of the server, flooding it early with scions and ashtals and refined uniques, not to mention gold ticket request lol which admin have to do weekly.

Thing is if you make it too expensive people will complain that your server is fully P2W and webzen part 2. This is because some people will spend no matter how much the boxes are if the reward of opening the box is as big as gold tickets ashtals n scions etc.

The SOLUTION: A. Either let the boxes be expensive like webzen + have the items dropable for free in the world by some hard method of refining or something dropping from some boss. Or B. take that content out of the server until later months when new stuff is needed and economy is established to better know where prices should be on this.





done :P

Could not said better!!! +1 from me

[marocco56]

Originally Posted by arae

Hi again, someone made a comment of balance in this thread and i wanted to point out somethings and suggest somethings about AL and the economy that goes with it/feeds its success.

The Price of Marvel Scrolls and its importance:

1. Marvel scrolls should be at least 4 euro per scroll.

Reason being is that the value of them will maintain a way to buy certain high level things in one trade (ex. gold ticket = 12 scrolls + gold or whatever). If they were cheap like 50 cents (justac) you cannot get anything special in one trade because the value of the scroll is basically not worth enough for the item wanted. This keeps the game more off of paypal and into the server.

2. Free scroll in buddy system

The game needs this, this gives a way for people who have no choice but to play for free or who just choose to play for free a way to get anything with hard work/continued play. Also a huge point to this is it attracts new people, through joining a friend on the server your pretty much assured a way into the economy for free just for leveling up to 70 (dont remember the requirement). Of course you will have people who do this over and over as way to gain high end stuff like gold and premium tickets, but that is the free option and it takes much time.


3. Understanding how marvel scroll is good to AL

The marvel scroll is good to archlord not only for the ability to trade bound items or the ability to purchase other items with scrolls, but it is also good because it is the one and only item in the CC shop that is not power based and hence does not alter game balancing! (yaaaah for marvel scroll the first balanced item in AL lol). Meaning that trading these impact no hard value of the game in terms of power. Example being a person is buying 20 euro of cc in game and spending 16 of that on scrolls (4 sc), a item that does not directly add power through a source of buying but is a way to get things or trade things you or someone DROPPED in game not BOUGHT.

4. Price of other cc in relation to marvel scroll price

The price of other things in the shop should be cheaper because of the need of price increase to marvel scrolls value. If you had to put the cc shop into 4 categories i think it would be:
A. CC potions: all time based potions like hp pot and combi etc.
B. Boosters: items such as Toa, Toh, Suits, Pets.
C. Utilities: passport scrolls, sog, destiny, release, return, soe etc.
D. Broken (lol): Cloaks, ring chest, tickets, race box, premium box etc

Things in section A should be very cheap, or even free with the exception of combi, but the combi should be cheaper, about 50 cents per stack is fair right? Making a scroll worth 8 combi stack, this way its not free but its not like unable to afford either, making things very F2P and less P2W. Combi is a big need to some people at all times and on a private server why not let that be a thing?


Things in section B should be partially based off of the xp/drop percentage you plan to use for start of server. If you plan to have closer to 150% xp rate these things should be cheaper even down to 10 and 20 cent per 1 day. If you plan to be up towards 500% xp rate they should be more expensive up to like 1 dollar and 2 dollars per 1 day. If you plan to add "OP" suits then id put it in the D section (lol)


Things in section C are all things that teleport or edits or allows you to chat server wide, this section would vary in price of course but main thing here is to have soe reasonable but not so cheap to create spam(3 bucks per 100?). All the other items that would be described a utility cant really be exploited or add any type of power so i think they shouldn't be more than a dollar but not less than 50 cents.

Things in section D are things where it should be the most expensive with only a few exceptions. The exceptions should be with price of things that justac has like ring spirit/cloaks, you should keep the same price or make it a little cheaper, i know the goal is to create a slower paced server but those 2 things you cant make it more than they have it in my opinion.

THE PROBLEM: The stuff you have and justac dont have like race boxes, premium boxes, fortune gates, Janus/sezarens, and inventory extension you have to be very careful of the price! If you make the boxes too cheap it can effect the pace of the server, flooding it early with scions and ashtals and refined uniques, not to mention gold ticket request lol which admin have to do weekly.

Thing is if you make it too expensive people will complain that your server is fully P2W and webzen part 2. This is because some people will spend no matter how much the boxes are if the reward of opening the box is as big as gold tickets ashtals n scions etc.

The SOLUTION: A. Either let the boxes be expensive like webzen + have the items dropable for free in the world by some hard method of refining or something dropping from some boss. Or B. take that content out of the server until later months when new stuff is needed and economy is established to better know where prices should be on this.





done :P

Ok so i agree with everything u said minus the combies thing. U dont want to make them cheap, do u rly want seeing all low lvs running around perma combies?

Also about prem/gold ticket thing i rly dont know what price should be put there, i dont even know if its good to implement those ... Maybe use them for another purpose.

[YellowClawJJ]

Originally Posted by marocco56

Ok so i agree with everything u said minus the combies thing. U dont want to make them cheap, do u rly want seeing all low lvs running around perma combies?

Also about prem/gold ticket thing i rly dont know what price should be put there, i dont even know if its good to implement those ... Maybe use them for another purpose.

If he doesnt put Gold Tickets i cant see how ppl will get more then 1 slotted uniques.Bcuz with 150% drop you wont be able to refine uniuqes like you could on JustAC.It will be already hard getting lets say Glo Bellos but refining 3 slotted Glo Bellos will be so so hard so Gold Tickets are not that bad at all.I wont risk tons of gold just to try my luck to get 3 slotted uniques.

[marocco56]

Ye ur right, i dont know... all thiss stuff makes it become more webzenized.

So basically it will be webzen with a lot more support, cheaper ec, free lens ?