Thread about unbalance/webzen

N30style · 02/11/2013, 14:29

i dont compare a char with 1 slot uni and a char with full gold tickets how ever
Put a lvl 120 ranger and a lvl 120 knight into a pvp with the same "okay" gear
I can tell you that the Knight will easy win =)
same with Ele same with Sorci same with swash
But fck off chill down i wont fck up people here
Just my opinion you dont need to share it

Nearly · 02/11/2013, 14:49

at lvl 120, im not sure that a knight can kill a sorc with "same" equip.
at leat before i got banned only 2/3 knights were abble to get me down because of 111 buffs.
It's hard to say which class is better than other,
for example an archer can get a sorc down easy but it will be harder for a knight, does it mean that archer is stronger than knight? no.
So yes play the char you like and enjoy it.

Mrn1c3guy · 02/11/2013, 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by N30style

i dont compare a char with 1 slot uni and a char with full gold tickets how ever
Put a lvl 120 ranger and a lvl 120 knight into a pvp with the same "okay" gear
I can tell you that the Knight will easy win =)
same with Ele same with Sorci same with swash
But fck off chill down i wont fck up people here
Just my opinion you dont need to share it

same gear ?
sorc with int ohk knight with int ohk
and neck faren ? hmm i think than sorc have more chance to kill the kngiht than the kngiht can kill the sorc :P:P

you maybe mean compareable equipment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
i also see most sorcs use cf kilt and resi stone in ring bcs they try to tank a bit
but well i think sorc have easy perma halt ( if you QQ now about perma goodlike) so the enemy cant even hit him so you have no one cooldown kilt inteligence stone in ring cap etc or scion in armpads etc?? all do ashtall and stamina for nice hp and tank ? maby sorc full scion full intelligence have a huge dmg to kill perma knight bcs if 1 fear sucess he have minimum 20 sec to kil 20k hp

why this numbers : fear 42 sec duration goodlike normaly 18sec (most have lower) 20k hp -> most kngiht have 20k hp on perma goodlike/killing mode

and who will say now sorc is not abel to get 20k hp dont in 20sec on cooldown eq? i think there enought hh skill to make them perma

G4yprick · 02/11/2013, 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by N30style

No you dont understand me exactly...
I play Ranger btw...
But ask any really good lvl 120 Elem and he will tell you that ele is so fcking low atm...
I just think about the elfs and i mean a new really GOOD Rebalance would be fine for all of us...
Ya Knight is the expensives char ingame i agree.
But what brings you an elem that you can easy lvling from lvl 1-120 without much cc?
Nothing, RIGHT!
and its hard to lvl a knight xD?
come on it gives Janus,HH,SD
Easy in SD to lvl 107 np...
if you say Knight is expensive then think about the WCP
If you got enough Janus you can easy make a knight from lvl 1-120 in 1 month without problems bro =)

Ele needs only some hh def and a bit higher dmg (mage 90+ tank geared has higher dmg than me QQ). Another problem is healing of sorc and mage - remove it and ill be satisfied. They can use giants with their hp buffs, dont need healing skill. -.-
Ele is indeed cheapest to lvl. I made last 50% with no cc at all (no lens, no cc pots), i had only 20% toa lol.
About knight pve, dont talk only about cc, it costs also billions of gold for hp/mp pots. Prices of pots are way too high, especially for newbies.

Bornholm · 02/11/2013, 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by N30style

Hey all,
i just wanna ask if you think like me.
Letz start about Humans:
Knights:
Can easy tank 50x 120 Chars with fcking Perma Godlike, can have also good Crit dmg have most Movespeed ingame and have fcking much Hp,Deff,Ress.

Mage:
Anti Magic Pwns all.

Archer: Epic Casttime, epic Debuffs, epic Ele Dmg.! And fcking fast too.

Orcs are okay, not any so OP like Humans

About Scions we dont need to talk cause no one plays Scions...

And now Elfs

Elem?
Are the lowest Char atm in Archlord that sucks...

Swashys also not the best Chars

Ranger are okay nice skills blabla but no chance vs a epic archer mage or knight...

Webzen need to start a fcking rebalance its fcked up that can kill a lvl 80 knight 100+ Elfs easy with fcking Perma...

So anyone have any ideas that we can bring Webzen to do a rebalance?

Will hope so...

Yes thats true, some of my friends stoped to play scion any longer.
Its not only that any char can kill all lvl scions ( for example getting killed by an archer lvl 70+ and im 110+ with good stuff on it ). Thats not a good balance yes, the problem of the scions is that we don't have any crit resistance or stun resistance. Also a problem is our block (without any good ring , neck that gives block). OK, we can use the elixiers but only for 10 sec LOL..........

steph33 · 02/11/2013, 17:17

Scions ? xD , summoner ftw , who can kill summoner ? mage ? no , archer ? maybe but hard , Critter ? no take glo rapid + hestia : too many evade .
Ofc you cant kill everybody but summoner stay a good class and for pve its amazing

phantomboot · 02/11/2013, 19:29

The next AL on zian will be a scion :-)

Bornholm · 02/12/2013, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by steph33

Scions ? xD , summoner ftw , who can kill summoner ? mage ? no , archer ? maybe but hard , Critter ? no take glo rapid + hestia : too many evade .
Ofc you cant kill everybody but summoner stay a good class and for pve its amazing

Sure can a mage killed a summoner, archer, knight, sorcs, berzerks also.
For what a hestia neck LOL, I have with no hestia 70% evade -.-*

Mrn1c3guy · 02/13/2013, 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bornholm

Sure can a mage killed a summoner, archer, knight, sorcs, berzerks also.
For what a hestia neck LOL, I have with no hestia 70% evade -.-*

but steph33 is better than you i think ( if you play scion and can not tank them )

and he can tank *most time * mage ^^

but for sure he can win vs mage in 1 vs 1

and thats enought or not?
- not every char must be a tank

casucht1 · 02/13/2013, 15:44

the prob isnt the overpowered class it is the bug of the hh def. in my opinion every class is ok just knight are unkillable atm because their hh def which is buggged the point isnt the cost i mean i cant kill a lvl 110+ knight and my char was more expensive than of 95% of the 110+ knights i am just thinking about why webzen not fix the hh def bug but i guess it have to be hard for coding or sth like that.

botpet · 02/13/2013, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by casucht1

the prob isnt the overpowered class it is the bug of the hh def. in my opinion every class is ok just knight are unkillable atm because their hh def which is buggged the point isnt the cost i mean i cant kill a lvl 110+ knight and my char was more expensive than of 95% of the 110+ knights i am just thinking about why webzen not fix the hh def bug but i guess it have to be hard for coding or sth like that.

And guess what? HH Attack (or call it HH damage) is bugged the same way: look at zerks, rangers... You guys always love to speak about knights.

Bornholm · 02/13/2013, 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrn1c3guy

but steph33 is better than you i think ( if you play scion and can not tank them )

and he can tank *most time * mage ^^

but for sure he can win vs mage in 1 vs 1 and thats enought or not?
- not every char must be a tank

Because he spend a lot money to this game to get good stuff ?
Antimagic all buffs gone so who can step33 tank a mage when all his stats are reduced mmh.......

billclinton · 02/13/2013, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by botpet

And guess what? HH Attack (or call it HH damage) is bugged the same way: look at zerks, rangers... You guys always love to speak about knights.

Yet we don't see hordes of Rangers, Zerks running around tanking everyone in RvR and shrine fights hrmmmmmmmmm....... wonder why that is.

Most Rangers switched classes why ? To play a overpowered race ( HUMANS ).

botpet · 02/13/2013, 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by billclinton

Yet we don't see hordes of Rangers, Zerks running around tanking everyone in RvR and shrine fights hrmmmmmmmmm....... wonder why that is.

Most Rangers switched classes why ? To play a overpowered race ( HUMANS ).

I do. And mages too. But i don't see so many new knights.

casucht1 · 02/13/2013, 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by botpet

And guess what? HH Attack (or call it HH damage) is bugged the same way: look at zerks, rangers... You guys always love to speak about knights.

yes because knights are the most overpowered class atm ofc ranger,hunter,archer have crazy hh dmg and that should maybe fixed aswell but the first thing they should do is to fix the hh def i mean how am i supposed to kill a knight ? i have max equip and still have no chance to kill one.