Thread about unbalance/webzen

[steph33]

i'm a summoner 120 with good gear full gold ticket . On 1 vs 1 against zerk with full shrine and same gear ( i mean full gt ) . I got 3 shouts . ahah even if i have hestia + sentinel + rapid ( max tank ) . It's rebalance power =) and shrine critter love =)

[Grischnaki]

@ With Add Funnyking from Urzark to list of the Elementalist, he has a realy nice cha now and he doesn't change his class even his class is so worse.

Many ppl say that Elementalist's aren't worse and then they show a video from Withered or Drakan. But they all miss the rest.

[Asmial]

I agree Ele's should be more powerfull!

I'm level 114 Ele on Urzark, but this took me soooooo long, cuz of pk, I have full HH, but it's not GT'ed, my sleeves and boots aren't stoned up, cuz i don't have the money for it, I don't have lvl 6 stones in it, they're too expensive for me... I use lvl 5 stones (only cap is lvl 6).

It's so annoying that whenever I wanna train my character , I go to the spot, but I see it's taken, I'm like: Hey, uhm, you stay long? If ele's would be more powerfull I would just kill them haha or atleast try to haha.

But yeah, I like ele and I won't stop playing it. Wz won't change it either probably, but well I guess I'll just have to live with that, one day I'll reach 120 ^^

[Withered]

When you check my videos the really good ones are before the rebalance. Eles weren't even great back then but still in the middle part of the ranking of classes.
But now, even 1 on 1 it is really hard to actually win against other classes that should be easy to kill. The 1 on 1 match-videos of Drakan and me aren't even under normal conditions and can't be seen as representative for the class. I made lots of suggestions that wouldn't even make Eles such good DDs as Sorcs/Mages but would keep their half-tankish half-dd-ish style.
Unfortunately, WZ ignored all of our feedback. I spent over 10h for making videos and writing comments on every change of the rebalance but I'm sure it hasn't even been read. As instead they addded to Ele some Ignore Def and 49% AS lmao.
I bet next Armor Set gives Ele extra Ignore Def and some Ignore Crit Def
It's too bad they don't employ really active GMs or even an international staff. New Vs should be hired too, the V section should be frequently answered etc etc <.<

[G4yprick]

Originally Posted by Grischnaki

@ With Add Funnyking from Urzark to list of the Elementalist, he has a realy nice cha now and he doesn't change his class even his class is so worse.

Many ppl say that Elementalist's aren't worse and then they show a video from Withered or Drakan. But they all miss the rest.

Just not Funnyking pls, u as his guildmate probably dont fight him often... but with his gear he should be at least 100x better than he is. Funnyking is excellent example of that gear and money dont equal strength when u know sht how to play.

[Funnyking]

your name is GAYPRICK and fight against me 1 vs1 who ever you are! and i spend 0€ in this fcking game..... come and fight or dont leave your coment here

[Grischnaki]

Originally Posted by G4yprick

Just not Funnyking pls, u as his guildmate probably dont fight him often... but with his gear he should be at least 100x better than he is. Funnyking is excellent example of that gear and money dont equal strength when u know sht how to play.

show me a better ele on Urzark, guess u can't

[Bornholm]

@G4yprik

If you don't know anything about the build from the ppl or the ppl stop talking **** or you get reported !

[Subsist]

i dont read the hole QQ here, its always the same bullshit. No one was crying when Humans was the badest. now they can kick ***** and all ele, scions... have to get good equipment to get a chance. everytime same if u cant win easy, its all bad.

[Krython]

Originally Posted by Withered

9. Ele - Nice tank and nice DOT, good HP/defence/crit resi, low resi and not so high dmg
Aha yea sure
1. Sorc has the same DoT even with AS reduction
2. As I already said several times on official forums it's FOR SURE the worst class ingame
I don't get how people can be dumb enough to believe that we're oh-so-OP

Open your fucking eyes! Only Elementje, Drakan, me and some other epicly-geared players are left and we're only capable of surviving cause we're fully gt-ed and experienced players. An average ele with the same gear as any other char in AL would die in any 1 on 1 pvp (maybe except vs a scion/orbiter idk)

We have lower physical dmg, lower def, lower ele dmg, lower HH damage than any other caster

this is a perfectly normal scene vs a normally geared knight. Not to mention the 11-13k crits afer requiem.

Humans need some downgrades and Eles more Ele dmg, Swashs some mroe HP and rangers more MS. That's it.

I waited somebody to compare ele with sorc and u did it. So let me show u how ele is better than sorc.
1. Ele DOT has 1k+ Dmg so it compensate with the AS reduction of sorc DOT + Ele has buff Frost Armor which reduce att speed of the opponent
2. Ele has about same physical dmg with sorc
3. Ele has much more defence/crit resi so they can tank easy all critters, while sorc got nothing
4. U will say: sorc has requiem. Ok and ele not have skill which reduce resi + ele resi? So it is same
5. U will say sorc has halt. But ele has stun skill and however in pvp 1 vs 1 sorc never use halt so it is a fair pvp ( well at least i don't use )
6. Ele has heal skill, sorc has too but it not work properly so same as we don't have it
7. Ele has a lot more ele resi so can also tank casters better than sorc.
8. Sorc has more HP, yes but not that much more
9. Ele can use all buffs + combi, sorc can't do that which is big + for ele
10. Ele pets are much better than sorc pets
11. Ele has more heroic dmg than sorc

So? Why u think that sorc is better than ele after rebalance?

[Funnyking]

requiem over 65 if you are good and 100%... sounds fair... and the sorc got a lill bonus there.... its called DMG i dont even know that

[KTiesto]

Originally Posted by Krython

I waited somebody to compare ele with sorc and u did it. So let me show u how ele is better than sorc.
1. Ele DOT has 1k+ Dmg so it compensate with the AS reduction of sorc DOT + Ele has buff Frost Armor which reduce att speed of the opponent
2. Ele has about same physical dmg with sorc
3. Ele has much more defence/crit resi so they can tank easy all critters, while sorc got nothing
4. U will say: sorc has requiem. Ok and ele not have skill which reduce resi + ele resi? So it is same
5. U will say sorc has halt. But ele has stun skill and however in pvp 1 vs 1 sorc never use halt so it is a fair pvp ( well at least i don't use )
6. Ele has heal skill, sorc has too but it not work properly so same as we don't have it
7. Ele has a lot more ele resi so can also tank casters better than sorc.
8. Sorc has more HP, yes but not that much more
9. Ele can use all buffs + combi, sorc can't do that which is big + for ele
10. Ele pets are much better than sorc pets
11. Ele has more heroic dmg than sorc

So? Why u think that sorc is better than ele after rebalance?

1.sorc have more dmg than ele
2.u compare skill witch can be blocked with requiem, ok go sleep
3.stun skill again ... can be blocked, halt no, go sleep
4.sorc have heal + mana so is better than ele one
5. sorc hp not that much ? show me ele sellfbuff with +30k hp easy

conclusion ----> go sleep

[Withered]

I waited somebody to compare ele with sorc and u did it. So let me show u how ele is better than sorc.
1. Ele DOT has 1k+ Dmg so it compensate with the AS reduction of sorc DOT + Ele has buff Frost Armor which reduce att speed of the opponent
2. Ele has about same physical dmg with sorc
3. Ele has much more defence/crit resi so they can tank easy all critters, while sorc got nothing
4. U will say: sorc has requiem. Ok and ele not have skill which reduce resi + ele resi? So it is same
5. U will say sorc has halt. But ele has stun skill and however in pvp 1 vs 1 sorc never use halt so it is a fair pvp ( well at least i don't use )
6. Ele has heal skill, sorc has too but it not work properly so same as we don't have it
7. Ele has a lot more ele resi so can also tank casters better than sorc.
8. Sorc has more HP, yes but not that much more
9. Ele can use all buffs + combi, sorc can't do that which is big + for ele
10. Ele pets are much better than sorc pets
11. Ele has more heroic dmg than sorc

So? Why u think that sorc is better than ele after rebalance?

1. Forst Armor is bugged you can barely move
2. No it's less and it's way less when you add Requiem to the calculation
2. Tanking easy all critters? Sorcs have more HP and decent Sorcs tank at least as well as Eles. They have also additional HH def
4. Requiem is unblockable and reduces over 55 res, my wind shear takes -34 ele res/res on stage 13. Ele is an Ele dmg DD, not a physical damage dd.
5. In 1 on 1 pvps sorcs usually always use halt here, same goes for sieges and pking. it can be spammed so that the target has no chance to fight back, eles can mutate, yes, but they cannot hit their targets while they're mutated
6. Sorcs aren't even supposed to have it - it's ruining the balance
7. Sorcs have high hp, more heroic def, on mana pull high sb and skill cast increasing debuff along with halt as a defense against casters
8. D3athstrike on full HP gear: 30 000. Withered on full HP gear: 25 000
9. Nope, giant doesnt work for ele
10. they're useless (maybe except bombas but only when you manage to be not near a hostile target so you can get them up on 110+)
11. due to your requiem your skilldamage goes immensely up. whats your heroic dmg? let's compare it^^

sorc was better before the rebalance, he can permanently spam skills, has a skillblock debuff which is spammable along with requiem and halt while ele has low defenses, less hp, less damage, no fear and less attacks. eles run really fast out of mana and got the same additional ele dmg into their weapon buff as sorcs did, but they didn't get more HP
why should eles be better?

[Krython]

Originally Posted by KTiesto

1.sorc have more dmg than ele
2.u compare skill witch can be blocked with requiem, ok go sleep
3.stun skill again ... can be blocked, halt no, go sleep
4.sorc have heal + mana so is better than ele one
5. sorc hp not that much ? show me ele sellfbuff with +30k hp easy

conclusion ----> go sleep

Ur conclusion sux :<. Anyway I said what I think. Everybody can have different opinion. I think that ele is better than sorc atm and I will stay on it But still ele and sorc are one of the weaker classes after rebalance

[Kleparnik]

Originally Posted by Withered

1. Forst Armor is bugged you can barely move
2. No it's less and it's way less when you add Requiem to the calculation
2. Tanking easy all critters? Sorcs have more HP and decent Sorcs tank at least as well as Eles. They have also additional HH def
4. Requiem is unblockable and reduces over 55 res, my wind shear takes -34 ele res/res on stage 13. Ele is an Ele dmg DD, not a physical damage dd.
5. In 1 on 1 pvps sorcs usually always use halt here, same goes for sieges and pking. it can be spammed so that the target has no chance to fight back, eles can mutate, yes, but they cannot hit their targets while they're mutated
6. Sorcs aren't even supposed to have it - it's ruining the balance
7. Sorcs have high hp, more heroic def, on mana pull high sb and skill cast increasing debuff along with halt as a defense against casters
8. D3athstrike on full HP gear: 30 000. Withered on full HP gear: 25 000
9. Nope, giant doesnt work for ele
10. they're useless (maybe except bombas but only when you manage to be not near a hostile target so you can get them up on 110+)
11. due to your requiem your skilldamage goes immensely up. whats your heroic dmg? let's compare it^^

sorc was better before the rebalance, he can permanently spam skills, has a skillblock debuff which is spammable along with requiem and halt while ele has low defenses, less hp, less damage, no fear and less attacks. eles run really fast out of mana and got the same additional ele dmg into their weapon buff as sorcs did, but they didn't get more HP
why should eles be better?

I can't belive u are one of the best elems ingame o0 ele is fckin good vs critters due to the high crit res 4,4k DoT + att speed debuffs.Also the video u showed its vs the best knight on our server u got mutation which makes ur enemy totaly useless and u can rebuff recover ur hp u got heal ect.And i know u will say eles got low res QQ knight with shrine pants kills eles easy QQ
ffs get some exc sentinels+hestia and u are fckin ok the crits wont be 4-5k and u can easy tank him and if its in HH the critter die from DoT+hh skills