Ashtals or scions?

hrvoje144 · 01/21/2013, 16:16

Im playing archer lvl 92... and i dnt know is it better to play archer with ashtals or scions... scions are for dmg, but ashtals gives you much more hp and mana... so i dnt know what is better for archer?

Schwipyo · 01/21/2013, 16:20

Scions!!!

phantomboot · 01/21/2013, 16:20

Most ppl will tell u scion bcoz an archer is supose to deal a max dmg in short time.
but when u r dead or out of Mana, u dont deal any dmg...
but u r a "little archer" atm, go lvl 120 and u'll see how u prefer to play

Schwipyo · 01/21/2013, 16:23

@ phantom when archer is out of mana he deals no dmg this is a rumor i think

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u saw the dmg when archer use normal hits? i deal on every target 2-4k ele dmg.
When ur out of mana just use normal hits it will still pwn

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hrvoje144 · 01/21/2013, 16:25

ok... than scions !!! thx :P

phantomboot · 01/21/2013, 16:28

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Originally Posted by Schwipyo

@ phantom when archer is out of mana he deals no dmg this is a rumor i think .
u saw the dmg when archer use normal hits. i deal on every target 2-4k ele dmg when ur out of mana just use normal hits it will still pwn .

your not wrong for normal hit, but to hit a high dmg, may be u have to switch som part or gear (u deal dmg w/o switch ofc, but it's not enough).

and full scion gear, u die fast... may be fastest... as i told, let him try and choose what is better for him

Bcoz an archer who die all the time during siege can be useless sometime...
So it depend how u play, if u play for pvp 1vs1 or in pty during siege, it depend of ur build too...

so, yes, many ppl will answer fast and just say: Scion =) but it's a fastest answer i guess

Zapard · 01/21/2013, 16:54

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Originally Posted by phantomboot

your not wrong for normal hit, but to hit a high dmg, may be u have to switch som part or gear (u deal dmg w/o switch ofc, but it's not enough).

and full scion gear, u die fast... may be fastest... as i told, let him try and choose what is better for him

Bcoz an archer who die all the time during siege can be useless sometime...
So it depend how u play, if u play for pvp 1vs1 or in pty during siege, it depend of ur build too...

so, yes, many ppl will answer fast and just say: Scion =) but it's a fastest answer i guess

Archer is not out of mana anymore, even if you are out of mana or your skills are on cd you play with normal hits and you do enough damage

Archer on sions in the siege as you said, dont dies fast.Ofc you will die if you go self buffed and all the other come full buffed but if you are full buffed you will still survive and pwn too

And archers in sieges have the most kills, they are not useless.Ofc they are not mages that have anti for example but they have chaos and they can cancel stampers

phantomboot · 01/21/2013, 17:01

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Originally Posted by Zapard

And archers in sieges have the most kills, they are not useless.

i know Archer r not useless. but when u die fast, if u havn't 5 or more account logged, u'll com back self buff

and u'll die again and again.

so as i said, most ppl will say Scions =)

Deadarrrow · 01/21/2013, 17:14

archer is dead from a 120 knight or zerk anyway with scion or with asthal build so mana wont help.

Warfield · 01/21/2013, 17:29

Follow my guide and you'll have a pro Archer!

Zapard · 01/21/2013, 18:12

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Originally Posted by phantomboot

i know Archer r not useless. but when u die fast, if u havn't 5 or more account logged, u'll com back self buff and u'll die again and again.

so as i said, most ppl will say Scions =)

If you have buffers or your guild make parties so every1 has buffers you dont die .When buffs are off simply all the party buffs again.And still even if you come self buffed you can kill

hrvoje144 · 01/21/2013, 19:13

but some ppl say that is good to make some parts ashtal and some scions and they say they are strong... so idk is it good to mix scions and ashtals?

Voldonx · 01/21/2013, 19:19

I wouldn't mix. Both have their pros, but if you mix you end up not having any pros because you're setting yourself up with limitation.

I would go ashtal if I had the chance, but many good archers I know have chosen scion. If it helps, scions are easier to get than ashtals. At least on my server.

Ashtals will make the lvling easier.

Your choice

Schwipyo · 01/21/2013, 19:40

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Originally Posted by phantomboot

your not wrong for normal hit, but to hit a high dmg, may be u have to switch som part or gear (u deal dmg w/o switch ofc, but it's not enough).

and full scion gear, u die fast... may be fastest... as i told, let him try and choose what is better for him

Bcoz an archer who die all the time during siege can be useless sometime...
So it depend how u play, if u play for pvp 1vs1 or in pty during siege, it depend of ur build too...

so, yes, many ppl will answer fast and just say: Scion =) but it's a fastest answer i guess

ye ur right bro.
I with my archer dont switch gear but it take me long to find a decent build.
i think this is the key to build a good archer. So he must test it by hisself whats the best