Proofcore or shiwa

[Quirkybeast]

Both are good
But with PC you need ID verification

[EGKaravan]

I have used ProofCore for around 5 months before I quit. It is overrated af, people hype it up to be the pinnacle of Apex cheese but it seemed subpar to me. Every aspect of it seemed to be cheaply designed. Everything from the GUI that looks like my old shitty AHK script that I made myself and used for 4 years before AHK was blacklisted. I was able to at least use my script for that long without getting banned, but ProofCore, which is supposed to be the most secure cheese on the market, gave me 2 bans in total in the 5 months I used it. Who knows, maybe 2 bans in 5 month is actually considered impressive compared to other cheese. At least it wasn't an instant ban like TM22 was :/ I wasn't the only one being banned from using ProofCore though, the discord had very frequent ban reports which were dismissed by the mods saying that the cheat wasn't detected, but rather the players were reported and manually banned. Might be true, but how come those Master and Pred cheaters got away with using the same shit without a ban? So many people posting their images of hitting Master or Predator rank with ProofCore were either blessed with godly luck, or they lied about using ProofCore to reach that rank. Imagine being banned for using the provided features as they are intended. Moving on, the features it has are very limited compared to the other cheese available. Other cheese had glow options for players and ground loot, some even provided auto movement macros like bunny hops, tap strafing, and super glides, which ProofCore lacks. And some of the features it had were bugged or outright didn't work at all. If I were to give ProofCore a rating, it would be as follows: "At least it worked, unlike NGRHook". I am considering trying out Shiwa, but they only accept cryptocurrency, which my bank specifically prohibits. Now, I'm just waiting for the reseller 'Apemute' to finish their website maintenance. It feels like we might get GTA 6 before the maintenance is completed or the Rapture will happen before maintenance is finished. Either way, if you have crypto, try out Shiwa. I heard its security is almost on-par with ProofCore's. But given the track record of all the decent available external cheats, bans are inevitable and you use at your own risk.

EDIT: I just bought a Shiwa sub from their reseller, was able to pay with my debit card which is wonderful, but had to pay a fee to the reseller which sucks. But the experience compared to ProofCore is night and day, and still $10 cheeper than ProofCore. It is very polished and everything works as intended. Every cheese I ever tried in my life required hours of troubleshooting before I could get anything to work, I spent nearly 24 hours getting ProofCore to work and in the end, their Discord admins couldn't help me and I fixed my issues myself. Shiwa worked perfectly from the start with minor issues, which I was able to resolve within minutes by following their FAQ guide. Considering there is no Discord server I can go to for help, that is very impressive. And as I said earlier, Shiwa has so many useful features included that all work flawlessly, which I couldn't say the same about ProofCore when I tried it. I can even save to multiple configs to make enabling features easy with the click of a button. ProofCore didn't have that, because they claimed it was an "unsafe feature". My regret now is not knowing that Shiwa existed earlier :/

[Onizuka.]

Originally Posted by EGKaravan

I have used ProofCore for around 5 months before I quit. It is overrated af, people hype it up to be the pinnacle of Apex cheese but it seemed subpar to me. Every aspect of it seemed to be cheaply designed. Everything from the GUI that looks like my old shitty AHK script that I made myself and used for 4 years before AHK was blacklisted. I was able to at least use my script for that long without getting banned, but ProofCore, which is supposed to be the most secure cheese on the market, gave me 2 bans in total in the 5 months I used it. Who knows, maybe 2 bans in 5 month is actually considered impressive compared to other cheese. At least it wasn't an instant ban like TM22 was :/ I wasn't the only one being banned from using ProofCore though, the discord had very frequent ban reports which were dismissed by the mods saying that the cheat wasn't detected, but rather the players were reported and manually banned. Might be true, but how come those Master and Pred cheaters got away with using the same shit without a ban? So many people posting their images of hitting Master or Predator rank with ProofCore were either blessed with godly luck, or they lied about using ProofCore to reach that rank. Imagine being banned for using the provided features as they are intended. Moving on, the features it has are very limited compared to the other cheese available. Other cheese had glow options for players and ground loot, some even provided auto movement macros like bunny hops, tap strafing, and super glides, which ProofCore lacks. And some of the features it had were bugged or outright didn't work at all. If I were to give ProofCore a rating, it would be as follows: "At least it worked, unlike NGRHook". I am considering trying out Shiwa, but they only accept cryptocurrency, which my bank specifically prohibits. Now, I'm just waiting for the reseller 'Apemute' to finish their website maintenance. It feels like we might get GTA 6 before the maintenance is completed or the Rapture will happen before maintenance is finished. Either way, if you have crypto, try out Shiwa. I heard its security is almost on-par with ProofCore's. But given the track record of all the decent available external cheats, bans are inevitable and you use at your own risk.

EDIT: I just bought a Shiwa sub from their reseller, was able to pay with my debit card which is wonderful, but had to pay a fee to the reseller which sucks. But the experience compared to ProofCore is night and day, and still $10 cheeper than ProofCore. It is very polished and everything works as intended. Every cheese I ever tried in my life required hours of troubleshooting before I could get anything to work, I spent nearly 24 hours getting ProofCore to work and in the end, their Discord admins couldn't help me and I fixed my issues myself. Shiwa worked perfectly from the start with minor issues, which I was able to resolve within minutes by following their FAQ guide. Considering there is no Discord server I can go to for help, that is very impressive. And as I said earlier, Shiwa has so many useful features included that all work flawlessly, which I couldn't say the same about ProofCore when I tried it. I can even save to multiple configs to make enabling features easy with the click of a button. ProofCore didn't have that, because they claimed it was an "unsafe feature". My regret now is not knowing that Shiwa existed earlier :/

I agree with the lack of features but they make up for it with better security than most. Shiwa is good too

[1337Death's Dance]

Originally Posted by EGKaravan

I have used ProofCore for around 5 months before I quit. It is overrated af, people hype it up to be the pinnacle of Apex cheese but it seemed subpar to me. Every aspect of it seemed to be cheaply designed. Everything from the GUI that looks like my old shitty AHK script that I made myself and used for 4 years before AHK was blacklisted. I was able to at least use my script for that long without getting banned, but ProofCore, which is supposed to be the most secure cheese on the market, gave me 2 bans in total in the 5 months I used it. Who knows, maybe 2 bans in 5 month is actually considered impressive compared to other cheese. At least it wasn't an instant ban like TM22 was :/ I wasn't the only one being banned from using ProofCore though, the discord had very frequent ban reports which were dismissed by the mods saying that the cheat wasn't detected, but rather the players were reported and manually banned. Might be true, but how come those Master and Pred cheaters got away with using the same shit without a ban? So many people posting their images of hitting Master or Predator rank with ProofCore were either blessed with godly luck, or they lied about using ProofCore to reach that rank. Imagine being banned for using the provided features as they are intended. Moving on, the features it has are very limited compared to the other cheese available. Other cheese had glow options for players and ground loot, some even provided auto movement macros like bunny hops, tap strafing, and super glides, which ProofCore lacks. And some of the features it had were bugged or outright didn't work at all. If I were to give ProofCore a rating, it would be as follows: "At least it worked, unlike NGRHook". I am considering trying out Shiwa, but they only accept cryptocurrency, which my bank specifically prohibits. Now, I'm just waiting for the reseller 'Apemute' to finish their website maintenance. It feels like we might get GTA 6 before the maintenance is completed or the Rapture will happen before maintenance is finished. Either way, if you have crypto, try out Shiwa. I heard its security is almost on-par with ProofCore's. But given the track record of all the decent available external cheats, bans are inevitable and you use at your own risk.

EDIT: I just bought a Shiwa sub from their reseller, was able to pay with my debit card which is wonderful, but had to pay a fee to the reseller which sucks. But the experience compared to ProofCore is night and day, and still $10 cheeper than ProofCore. It is very polished and everything works as intended. Every cheese I ever tried in my life required hours of troubleshooting before I could get anything to work, I spent nearly 24 hours getting ProofCore to work and in the end, their Discord admins couldn't help me and I fixed my issues myself. Shiwa worked perfectly from the start with minor issues, which I was able to resolve within minutes by following their FAQ guide. Considering there is no Discord server I can go to for help, that is very impressive. And as I said earlier, Shiwa has so many useful features included that all work flawlessly, which I couldn't say the same about ProofCore when I tried it. I can even save to multiple configs to make enabling features easy with the click of a button. ProofCore didn't have that, because they claimed it was an "unsafe feature". My regret now is not knowing that Shiwa existed earlier :/

proofcore is a provider focused on security, which is why they never added proper movement features or even a simple spectator count esp " which is a big detection vector to do externally afaik " which seems to be doing good for being ud all those years. Those users who don't get banned because of 2 simple reasons. 1: proofcore is actually undetected and they know how to use / configure the aimbot for legit cheating. 2: they are playing on their mains, aged accounts which has less server-sided checks. aka no auto ban if they get reported too much.

proofcore will continue providing actually undetected cheats but considering how big market is as of now, it's best to find a p2c suitable to your needs like you did now.

about the gui of proofcore, it's a custom gui which is only being used by proofcore. dev of proofcore likes to code everything from scratch. instead of using any public ui's like most other external p2c's use. so i don't see how you managed to compare it with your ahk gui lol

and lastly, i'm not dick riding proofcore. i was a staff member there back in the day and i did part my ways badly with the developer, but i still feel like i gotta give credit where credit is due.

Hope you will enjoy Shiwa mr. ^^