[App SRO]Bane v2

1 More post, just to make it clear.
I am only posting stuff to point out what admins should look at.
I am not supporting whether he should or should not be a staff.
I have not been in SRO/Any Section he has ever Moderated.
I am not a "Hater", just pointing that out.

@Sm!th, i am not trolling him or anyone, and i was clearly giving my opinion on what this section should be. Which is Admin Only Section.

@John, Like i said, i am not making any assaults straight for him. Never seen his work, i am just pointing out the fact that, like i said, most mods are saying they are friends or they like him for w/e reason. While users are all saying no for w/e reasons as well.
By the way I quote what i posted.

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I kinda lost respect (even though i never knew them or had any respect for them) for moderators who said yes for those ridiculous reasons.

"ridiculous reasons"...
If you find your reason ridiculous then that is you, but as you can see in my posts i am pointing out reasons like "friends","i like him", ect...

I don't like making habit of posting repeatedly on a someone else application, specially when it involves talking to someone else that isn't the applicant.

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Originally Posted by Lion2205 @John, Like i said, i am not making any assaults straight for him. Never seen his work, i am just pointing out the fact that, like i said, most mods are saying they are friends or they like him for w/e reason. While users are all saying no for w/e reasons as well. By the way I quote what i posted.

An I will post once more on this subject, but then I want it off this app, it's starting a war.... :/

You, nor anyone who is not a mod does not know the reasons the mods are supporting me...No anyone who is not that user does not know the reason that those mods are supporting me, I don't even know why. It's just simple, if there were like 10+ blue users posting they support me, does that mean that everyone in the Premiume section wants me back because I was there freind...Just because they have a green name does not mean that they are comspireing to get me back in, it just means that they thought I was a good mod OR think I can handle SRO.

Also seeing as how mods are...mods you would think that they would be the LEAST likely to vote someone in as mod based only off freindship, trust me, if you were the president of the US, would you vote someone in as your +position here+ just because they were your freind, even if they had no qualifcations for the job?

The reasons that those people from SRO who have posted have a very...Well they have a reason for not supporting me, but that is between me them and two or three more users.
Also as MrSm!th said, look at the facts logicly, if what they were saying is true, and in my first adminstration over that section I did screw everything up/act out and abused my powers/didn't do enough, I would have been removed.


And in a conclusion

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Originally Posted by Nezekan \ EDIT: Not a personal assault obviously, you are just not the right person for the silkroad section, you lack both experience with the game itself I'm working on a SRO server, I played the offical SRO and many P-servers for it, and I acctualy enjoy the game, just because I never made it public doesn't make it less true, John can vouch for me there as I talked to him alot about SRO and how fun it is to work in a new environment. and respect for our 'greatest' members. I treated every member the same as the next, regardless of if they had 1000000 release, and 100K thanks, they still got the same punishment as a user with 1 post, or the most hated member. Simple facts are everyone here is treated as a equal, if they weren't then this wouldn't be a good forum. Until you work on both points, I don't think there is any room for you in our section. You just don't know who we are and that's why most mods come from inside the section itself. I know who everyone is, I read all your post and have some of you on Skype, it is just that you guy's didn't get to know me. My skype was always avalible and I answered almost every PM I got...

Nothing personal against any moderator, but you guys are not an active member of the silkroad section so you most likely do not know how it works. You can put him back as moderator and make it a shit-hole as it has been for months already.

I'm a mod at the sro section (I don't know about the longevity of my status tho). Now I have to say that the SRO section is filled with the most annoying trolls ever. Everyday, infractons are given out for spam, flame wars, spam and flame wars. The people there tend to spam "trollface" pictures, falme other members and discriminate people from other countries/race/beliefs.
(I'll take myself as an example) Picking someone from your own "group" is both a very good and a very bad idea. An "outsider" of the section like myself, may not know who you are, what you do, or how did someone contribute. Yet this helps keep things clear because there are no exceptions or any type of discrimination whatsoever. Now throughout your entire section I have only seen one or two members who are "worthy" of getting the title.
I believe that there is no "nice" way of dealing with the situation in your section, so someone with a certain amount of experience is required.
Since day 1 of me getting added I have gotten various complaints about my work, my methods and my overall existence. It's safe to say that this will happen to anyone who gets added. So being able to keep your composure at all times is a must have quality of a mod (now I do not thicken the colors when I say that some of you break out a full on flame war for a spelling mistake).
I hope I have made my opinion clear, I vote yes, not because he's a friend of mine, not because it benefits me in any way, I vote yes because the section needs someone who knows how to deal with the stuff going on.

Thank you for your time,
TheConArtist

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Originally Posted by Dropdead* Nothing personal against any moderator, but you guys are not an active member of the silkroad section so you most likely do not know how it works.

I fear you rather than us don't know how it works. Looking at the infractions you yet got I can't take your comments seriously anymore. A troll shouldn't dare to complaint a mods work just because the mod punished one for any rule's disregard. Another point for Bane, btw.

@Lion: You are trying to tell the administration what to consider when judging on Bane? You must be kidding.

I really do not think that we could get so far to talk about ones infractions as help to decide if hyou can take him serious. And I also dont understand why you mods really try to discuss about this whole case. This is something you shouldnt do since you know that the admins got the last decision.

And to that case, I dont know Bane tbh, but I heard about the dislike of his own section even in his mod times i guess. Of course it could be about ridiculous reasons. Anyway, I doubt if someone who is such hated on his own section should get mod there.
It just wouldnt be good for the mood there, i guess. Even if you mods want him because he had done a good job.

And...i remember that you jumped out of the staff not so far ago. And i remember it was for strange reasons. I cannot trust someone who behaves that way. You are just too feivolous in this whole discussion.

So much from me. Dont take it personal.

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Originally Posted by TheConArtist I'm a mod at the sro section (I don't know about the longevity of my status tho). Now I have to say that the SRO section is filled with the most annoying trolls ever. Everyday, infractons are given out for spam, flame wars, spam and flame wars. The people there tend to spam "trollface" pictures, falme other members and discriminate people from other countries/race/beliefs.

Those who mostly flame other members are those turks running around in the section since the server files got released. They've poisoned our section with their idiotic spam, creating new threads for absoulutely nothing and not to mention in the wrong section.
The reason for the countries/race/belief "racism" is because the islamic people started to disrespect our belief in christianty or in most cases atheism.
They try to put their allah into our faces and say to us they will fuck our mothers, fathers(yea fathers lol), sisters ETC. That's the reason we attack back cause HAD ENOUGH of that shit already. and when they say chritian yok or something, and we say allah yok we get infracted but they dont.
About the trolling everyday part, what I like to do is using MEME's to express what I think of something, someone, or a situation. I dont think it's counted as spam, it just makes the post hella lot funnier. I do troll sometimes but no one complains on it (only you and maybe few enemies of mine). You do not like it, but alot of people find it really funny.
So if you want to have a dead section where no one is allowed to smile go ahead and make it.

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Originally Posted by TheConArtist Since day 1 of me getting added I have gotten various complaints about my work, my methods and my overall existence. It's safe to say that this will happen to anyone who gets added. So being able to keep your composure at all times is a must have quality of a mod (now I do not thicken the colors when I say that some of you break out a full on flame war for a spelling mistake).

WRONG WRONG WRONG. If we have a moderator almost everyone in the section know it wont be alot of complaits. There're plenty of suitable people in the silkroad section who are most capable of moderating it + making it fun aswell. what I can agree on is that flame wars usually break out over little things.

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Originally Posted by Nomad' I fear you rather than us don't know how it works. Looking at the infractions you yet got I can't take your comments seriously anymore. A troll shouldn't dare to complaint a mods work just because the mod punished one for any rule's disregard. Another point for Bane, btw. @Lion: You are trying to tell the administration what to consider when judging on Bane? You must be kidding.

Sorry but Bane hasnt sent me any infractions, only TheConArtist have.

Like I said this is now a flame war, infact no one has even taken what I have wrote into consedration, which hurts even more.

Please please please for gods sake drop it.

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Originally Posted by Dropdead* So if you want to have a soon-to-be-dead section where no one respects the rules, everything is allowed and one don't have to expect punishments - go ahead and make it.

fixed

€: sorry bane

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Originally Posted by Nomad' fixed €: sorry bane

It's no offense to anyone, I just don't want my Mod app closed for flameing, that would look terrible on me :/ lol

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Originally Posted by Lion2205 1 More post, just to make it clear. I am only posting stuff to point out what admins should look at. I am not supporting whether he should or should not be a staff. I have not been in SRO/Any Section he has ever Moderated. I am not a "Hater", just pointing that out.

I know that, I am able to read.

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@Sm!th, i am not trolling him or anyone, and i was clearly giving my opinion on what this section should be. Which is Admin Only Section.

I did not talk to you.

And this section should stay open for all members.

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@John, Like i said, i am not making any assaults straight for him. Never seen his work, i am just pointing out the fact that, like i said, most mods are saying they are friends or they like him for w/e reason. While users are all saying no for w/e reasons as well.

1. thats not true
2. i already told you the reason why they voted for no.

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And to that case, I dont know Bane tbh, but I heard about the dislike of his own section even in his mod times i guess. Of course it could be about ridiculous reasons. Anyway, I doubt if someone who is such hated on his own section should get mod there. It just wouldnt be good for the mood there, i guess. Even if you mods want him because he had done a good job.

Yeah, let the pupils choose their teacher.

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About the trolling everyday part, what I like to do is using MEME's to express what I think of something, someone, or a situation. I dont think it's counted as spam,

It is.

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I do troll sometimes but no one complains on it (only you and maybe few enemies of mine).

He did not do it, because he is an enemy, he did it, because it was his job!
I think you just did not understand this whole moderation thing...we are here to punish guys like you, you know?

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WRONG WRONG WRONG. If we have a moderator almost everyone in the section know it wont be alot of complaits. There're plenty of suitable people in the silkroad section who are most capable of moderating it + making it fun aswell. what I can agree on is that flame wars usually break out over little things.

Yeah, a moderator who is your friend and will not punish you?

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Sorry but Bane hasnt sent me any infractions, only TheConArtist have.

Liar.

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It's no offense to anyone, I just don't want my Mod app closed for flameing, that would look terrible on me :/ lol

It won't.
Now I think the criticism has a little bit of truth: You are considering discussions as flame wars too fast.

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Originally Posted by Dropdead* Those who mostly flame other members are those turks running around in the section since the server files got released. They've poisoned our section with their idiotic spam, creating new threads for absoulutely nothing and not to mention in the wrong section. The reason for the countries/race/belief "racism" is because the islamic people started to disrespect our belief in christianty or in most cases atheism. They try to put their allah into our faces and say to us they will fuck our mothers, fathers(yea fathers lol), sisters ETC. That's the reason we attack back cause HAD ENOUGH of that shit already. and when they say chritian yok or something, and we say allah yok we get infracted but they dont. About the trolling everyday part, what I like to do is using MEME's to express what I think of something, someone, or a situation. I dont think it's counted as spam, it just makes the post hella lot funnier. I do troll sometimes but no one complains on it (only you and maybe few enemies of mine). You do not like it, but alot of people find it really funny. So if you want to have a dead section where no one is allowed to smile go ahead and make it. WRONG WRONG WRONG. If we have a moderator almost everyone in the section know it wont be alot of complaits. There're plenty of suitable people in the silkroad section who are most capable of moderating it + making it fun aswell. what I can agree on is that flame wars usually break out over little things. Sorry but Bane hasnt sent me any infractions, only TheConArtist have.

Point one, yes I understand they insult Christians too, which is why in every situation like that both sides reseaved a infraction, although you should be able to gusse that far..

Those people who you find, "sutible", have reasons for not being accepted. Only the admins can tell you that too.

I have infracted you, every time a mod infracts someone it is stored in our sentbox, and I save all my infractions to a .txt file.



You guy's loved me when I first came in as I banned the, "noobs", by that I mean the haters/wrong sections/people who tried to infect your computers with trojans ETC ETC.

I acctualy followed the moderator rules to the point with SRO, and almost any mod can tell you that, because I talked about it quite a lot in our mod chat.

But then I had one of your, "favorite members" banned for a private reason, and all hell broke out.

And if you guys think that there is any moderator on this forum, or ever will be a moderator on this forum who does let people with more reputation get away with anything they want, you are wrong mods acctualy check up on each other to be sure there is no corruption in the staff, this is something they do not take lightly.

Obviously, if you look at the 'atmosphere' this thread has developped, that alone will tell you enough why Bane should not become a moderator again, in the silkroad section atleast

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Originally Posted by Nezekan Obviously, if you look at the 'atmosphere' this thread has developped, that alone will tell you enough why Bane should not become a moderator again, in the silkroad section atleast

I only see 4-5 out of the 100K + members from SRO comenting.

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Originally Posted by Bаne I only see 4-5 out of the 100K + members from SRO comenting.

Doesn't that tell you -anything-?

Seriously though, I am just trying to defend my section. With the leak of the silkroad section it become a complete mess, I can understand that it could take a while to get everything on order, but after all these months it only has gotten worse. I hope that admins will finally realize what they're doing, a big part of the 'valued' members have left already since Bane became a moderator. I can understand that he was doing his duty, and that he wants to be objective but in this case objectivety is not a fully positive concern. I know that some of our most respected members can act like total retards but the section would be nothing with them. If you ban the source of ALL the input into our section, what will you have left? right, leachers. The section is already fucked up enough today, we don't need you to make it worse. I suggest that an admin will finally check into it, and try to make a plan to revive our section.

What we need is:

*A group of decent moderators, which are respected in our community but also have the abilities and perks of good moderators

*Decent management from above

*Teamwork


If you can arrange a complete overhoul of the section, in a good way, without fucking it up even more and actually listening to what we ourselves want I think it shouldn't be -that- hard in the long run.