9DS is coming back.

[Kalzion] · 07/15/2018, 15:48

"Please keep this thread at discussion, don't fight each other here.
At this moment, wipe Nirvana seem bring more player back to game. I know some PVE player don't have anything to do when they have end-game items.
Let divine into some situation:
Wipe:

You all will just start from beginning without any big improvement of the game, if you all want to make fast wipe.
We will have more player comeback, also new player.
Better control and improvement things at current the server.
I need a month to prepare new server, decide what is good for new server, keep good things on current server and remove bad things, add new content, ...

Keep current server:

Plan is about bring new map (HaiNan), Hefei training dungeon.
About few player are playing ~10.
Current work load for epithet and clothes is quite hard, required a lot of time to acquire, so I do respect the time player spent for those items.

But what about Asura?, it's dead (still online, but quite empty), I am agree, seem like Asura, the hardcore server don't fit with everyone style anymore.

Some people also give me suggestion about wipe both server, only keep 1 server so I can make new update/patches every week. At one side, I do agree with this idea, since make 2 server, I can't make patch for both server every week, and the community also divine into 2 server, make them seem dead. At another side, I do respect all player works for their items, characters and level.

So decide is hard for me, I want to see another player vote before decide. Vote end after 7 days.

p/s: If wiped is pass, you guys will received point refund to account, 100% for payment in pass year, 50% for older payment. 100% point refund for referral."

Cromastone · 07/15/2018, 22:28

If farming won't be Eclipse style and not stupid updates like hg 12 vaga set,i'll just start there fresh.For now i'll be waiting

9dragonsplayer29 · 07/16/2018, 04:21

Adek · 07/16/2018, 08:56

> new patch every week

AFAIK there were only 4 maintenances for both servers together since March. Even Zeron had patches more often lol.

~~madmerlin3009~~ · 07/16/2018, 09:25

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Originally Posted by Cromastone

If farming won't be Eclipse style and not stupid updates like hg 12 vaga set,i'll just start there fresh.For now i'll be waiting

vegasets were requested by numerous people. some did not want, some did. we cant keep 100% of the population happy!!!!

Adek · 07/16/2018, 09:34

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Originally Posted by madmerlin3009

vegasets were requested by numerous people. some did not want, some did. we cant keep 100% of the population happy!!!!

I still don't know what's their problem with vaga hg12 sets. Anyone?

[Kalzion] · 07/16/2018, 19:39

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Originally Posted by adek1994

I still don't know what's their problem with vaga hg12 sets. Anyone?

I'll try keep it simple.

They advised they'll add a farm intensive resource to increase activity but the items were added as direct drops from boxes, meaning not one player needed to farm it because buying it was cheaper and easier.

Then they did the same with vaga sets and also there was some confusion and misleading information. Some players sold their hg12 sets to buy coupons for vaga set and they changed their mind and added hg12 + coupon to the resource.

They still didn't fix overflow in pvp or stun bug too. Warriors can't use smashes and ck roles can't use their strongest nukes in most situations, issues with item mall coins being automatically loaded onto accounts too. This has improved as more staff can manually assist. The staff are very immature though in general and threaten to ban players for some negative comments. Have witnessed them rage quitting events too, because a few players are "moaning".

sh4dy81 · 07/16/2018, 20:07

I'd say that it should be better to do a wipe, myself and many other players are looking for a fresh start

[Kalzion] · 07/16/2018, 20:44

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Originally Posted by sh4dy81

I'd say that it should be better to do a wipe, myself and many other players are looking for a fresh start

Wipe decided already.

Cromastone · 07/16/2018, 22:37

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Originally Posted by adek1994

I still don't know what's their problem with vaga hg12 sets. Anyone?

What's their problem? They make you buy boxes in which you get coupons(not really big rates),then they **** you in the *** by changing resources for set ...that's the problem,lol.Do you even play there?

~~madmerlin3009~~ · 07/17/2018, 00:50

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Originally Posted by Cromastone

What's their problem? They make you buy boxes in which you get coupons(not really big rates),then they **** you in the *** by changing resources for set ...that's the problem,lol.Do you even play there?

stop whining. We are not forcing you to buy the sets. The stats of the vagasets are exactly the same as the hg12 sets. We only created a unique visual look. If you want it farm for it. If not then dont bother .Its that simple so get over it. We will add the complete sets to the item mall so donators can get the sets without trading their hg12 sets. Before you start saying thats P2W, the vagasets are exactly the same stats.

Cromastone · 07/17/2018, 01:37

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Originally Posted by madmerlin3009

stop whining. We are not forcing you to buy the sets. The stats of the vagasets are exactly the same as the hg12 sets. We only created a unique visual look. If you want it farm for it. If not then dont bother .Its that simple so get over it. We will add the complete sets to the item mall so donators can get the sets without trading their hg12 sets. Before you start saying thats P2W, the vagasets are exactly the same stats.

You got it wrong,i was a donator lol.You took my money once with cases,won't take them again with Vaga sets...instead of making players pay 40$ for 50 useless boxes you could have put it in IM since begining because that was what you said you'll do...but guess what you didn't give a **** about donators with vaga set patch and will(probably did already) lose a lot of money from them

Adek · 07/17/2018, 09:04

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Originally Posted by [Kalzion]

I'll try keep it simple.

They advised they'll add a farm intensive resource to increase activity but the items were added as direct drops from boxes, meaning not one player needed to farm it because buying it was cheaper and easier.

Then they did the same with vaga sets and also there was some confusion and misleading information. Some players sold their hg12 sets to buy coupons for vaga set and they changed their mind and added hg12 + coupon to the resource.

They still didn't fix overflow in pvp or stun bug too. Warriors can't use smashes and ck roles can't use their strongest nukes in most situations, issues with item mall coins being automatically loaded onto accounts too. This has improved as more staff can manually assist. The staff are very immature though in general and threaten to ban players for some negative comments. Have witnessed them rage quitting events too, because a few players are "moaning".

1. It makes sense to sell items just like that. If the stuff is tradable, I wouldn't mind.

2. Changing the resources on the privates is a common thing, so I still don't know what's the rage about it. I know some of them could think about it as a "cash grab", though the only change is the visual part of the set. SO, if it requires HG12 set AND the coupon, it's not P2W. And IMO, that would be way worse - to literally sell endgame set with no farming at all.

3. Can't say anything about this part. I just didn't play there much to witness it. I once heard the stuff with Item Mall is going to be fixed and the person responsible for the site is on his way.

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Originally Posted by Cromastone

What's their problem? They make you buy boxes in which you get coupons(not really big rates),then they fuck you in the ass by changing resources for set ...that's the problem,lol.Do you even play there?

Last time I played just before introducing vaga sets, that's the reason I'm asking. And, as people said before, the stats are the same, so what's the point? Just the looks? Your choice to trade your old stuff for the new one. Mardu's an owner, so it's his choice to change resources. Maybe he messed up the first time and he just fixed it.

[Kalzion] · 07/17/2018, 09:31

You missed the point about vaga set and resources. The problem was players need pve to be active. As soon as pve runs out people quit. Having them drop via item mall decreases potential population and activity.

™Sin™ · 07/17/2018, 10:38

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Originally Posted by [Kalzion]

You missed the point about vaga set and resources. The problem was players need pve to be active. As soon as pve runs out people quit. Having them drop via item mall decreases potential population and activity.

That part is true.
It's better if they don't add any set to item mall. Years ago i was also donator and when i didn't have enough time or was just being too lazy i would simply donate, sell some item mall items and simply buy an item that requires a lot of farming. This way there was economy, and those who couldn't afford to donate are still able to get rich by hard work - farming.
Adding certain items to item mall is double edged sword.

I don't know the half of what's been happening but i'm just sharing my point of view from what i saw.

No matter what you do, you will never be able to please everyone.
That is why you ask players what they want, you give them a list of pros and cons, and let
the community decide by voting.