why doesn't 9d work in windows8?

ghett0gs0n · 01/12/2016, 18:06

Can someone explain in technical terms the constraints and challenges?

josped · 01/12/2016, 18:14

New security and driver model. 9D itself doesn't actually have many issues with it, the main problem is in GG/HS, that **** burries itself deep in the OS and any core change breaks it. Was same for Vista/7, will be same on the next model change.

ghett0gs0n · 01/12/2016, 19:15

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Originally Posted by josped

New security and driver model. 9D itself doesn't actually have many issues with it, the main problem is in GG/HS, that **** burries itself deep in the OS and any core change breaks it. Was same for Vista/7, will be same on the next model change.

Isn't the gamecampus version already working on win8? Can't you just use their files?

adek1994 · 01/12/2016, 20:53

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Originally Posted by ghett0gs0n

Isn't the gamecampus version already working on win8? Can't you just use their files?

That's just client. Server files are something else.

ghett0gs0n · 01/12/2016, 21:38

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Originally Posted by adek1994

That's just client. Server files are something else.

But but but.... its the client thats on windows 8. And as somone said its mostly Gameguard issues why do we even need game server files.

xtJamie · 01/12/2016, 21:48

the server version of gameguard we have on the server side is incompatible with the version the client has if you use newer files from other games, they both have to match or else a function is called to detect the process and terminate the process running the client. there are in-depth posts on other forum sites which explain in fine detail what gameguard is doing, there are also posts on forums which give a list of all the drivers gameguard hooks onto.

josped · 01/12/2016, 22:11

As Jamie said. Even if we could get some reverser interrested in pro-bono work to unwrap that PoS out of the client, the server heartbeat would kick people out muy pronto. Assuming they are using it. Which they probably are...

Unwrapping both the client and the server is doable ofc, but i'm sure everyone remembers G1 and how well it goes when 9D isn't wrapped... Fun times though, instant traps et all...

adek1994 · 01/13/2016, 14:20

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Originally Posted by ghett0gs0n

But but but.... its the client thats on windows 8. And as somone said its mostly Gameguard issues why do we even need game server files.

To keep it simple: old server files don't know Win8.1+, so even if you get new client files, you can't do that for server. *except there will be the massive leak*

~~_Desire~~ · 02/13/2016, 11:14

"Hello Everyone! We are pleased to say that Elysium 9Dragons is now working on Windows 10 and 8.1.
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josped · 02/14/2016, 01:38

You could have just created a thread about it instead of necro'ing a dozen (already irrelevant ones)...

~~_Desire~~ · 02/14/2016, 02:08

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You could have just created a thread about it instead of necro'ing a dozen (already irrelevant ones)...

haha, you could've said it to PA when they did it, but knowing the **** rider you are obviously you wouldn't

btw, 6 =/ 12

josped · 02/14/2016, 03:07

Interesting comment given you don't have a f'ing clue who i am...

madmerlin3009 · 02/14/2016, 21:31

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Interesting comment given you don't have a f'ing clue who i am...

and your name is ? end quote

josped · 02/14/2016, 23:07

Just some random vagabond...

Then again, if you have no clue which DB nuker i was grinding at the same time i was grinding that vaga, on that particular day, which happened to be the end of Acclaim, well..., you're no one of importance...

p.s. i do miss those c12 actives ;( major VE drain but sooo nice...

madmerlin3009 · 02/14/2016, 23:37

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Originally Posted by josped

Just some random vagabond...

Then again, if you have no clue which DB nuker i was grinding at the same time i was grinding that vaga, on that particular day, which happened to be the end of Acclaim, well..., you're no one of importance...

p.s. i do miss those c12 actives ;( major VE drain but sooo nice...

and the purpose of this message?