[LOOKING FOR...]: A private server playbale on win 8.1!

[hantalu]

Hi guys,

It's been a while and very nice to meet you all again. It's really said to know EOD is down. I've waited for too long for the new version of EOD that playable on win 8.1. **** it!

Do you guys know any private server that playable on win 8.1? Please share it to me. Thanks alot

Thanks for spending time reading my thread!

[Adek]

Originally Posted by hantalu

Hi guys,

It's been a while and very nice to meet you all again. It's really said to know EOD is down. I've waited for too long for the new version of EOD that playable on win 8.1. **** it!

Do you guys know any private server that playable on win 8.1? Please share it to me. Thanks alot

Thanks for spending time reading my thread!

There are no private servers, ekhm, right now like that. You can play Project Alpha via virtual machine, just like I do. It's quite good, the only thing you need to remember to not use mouse to rotate the camera, just use the keyboard for that.

[hantalu]

Thanks guys

[Wanagas]

Originally Posted by adek1994

There are no private servers, ekhm, right now like that. You can play Project Alpha via virtual machine, just like I do. It's quite good, the only thing you need to remember to not use mouse to rotate the camera, just use the keyboard for that.

You can, go to mouse options on vmware and there should be something called "gaming" and select "always" (you can choose from a 3 different). Don't have vmware atm so cant tell you direct steps but you should find it.

[josped]

Originally Posted by xtJamie

What you need is a virtual machine that allows full gpu acceleration. Virtual machines are not designed for gaming so do not expect much out of any modes, it sounds like this mode might allow for further use of the physical hosts gpu.

Nope. VMWare uses some heavy magic to allow 3D that runs on the host GPU. Well, it does background rendering on the host and then copies it to the guest. Sounds simple, but it's heavy magic. The copy is where the hit in performance comes, so it will never be 100% or even close to that.

What Wanagas is referring to is a way to disable the "virtualization friendly" mouse mode and making it stick to the guest until you Ctrl-Alt out of it. Also helps on some "well written" games to stop game seeing a 1000000DPI mouse that can do a dozen 360º turns per mm moved...

Sadly, and that's why adek1994 mentions using the keyboard, nothing helps in 9D. It goes into a spinning frenzy no matter what you do.*

[Adek]

Originally Posted by Wanagas

You can, go to mouse options on vmware and there should be something called "gaming" and select "always" (you can choose from a 3 different). Don't have vmware atm so cant tell you direct steps but you should find it.

It has one bad side - you can't see a cursor anymore. It worked like charm when it comes to moving the camera, but you can't select a mob.

Originally Posted by josped

Nope. VMWare uses some heavy magic to allow 3D that runs on the host GPU. Well, it does background rendering on the host and then copies it to the guest. Sounds simple, but it's heavy magic. The copy is where the hit in performance comes, so it will never be 100% or even close to that.

What Wanagas is referring to is a way to disable the "virtualization friendly" mouse mode and making it stick to the guest until you Ctrl-Alt out of it. Also helps on some "well written" games to stop game seeing a 1000000DPI mouse that can do a dozen 360º turns per mm moved...

Sadly, and that's why adek1994 mentions using the keyboard, nothing helps in 9D. It goes into a spinning frenzy no matter what you do.*

Keyboard truly is enough to play 9D. You just need to select mob via clicking. That's how I play aaaall the time. That probably won't work in PvP, but you know

[josped]

Originally Posted by xtJamie

Have you not considered using a second mouse for the guest os and modifying the vmx file:

Been there, done (all) that. It's an issue that's been pending from the first "3D enabled" VMWare workstation (8?). They don't give a F about it because a) 3D is "experimental" and b) it only happens on badly coded shit.

Originally Posted by xtJamie

Have you not tried using Hyper-V? That is suppose to be resource minimal and supposedly allows for DirectX?

Hyper-V needs hardware virtualization support, which i don't have. And on boxes that did have, it qualifies as... well... calling it shit would be too good. Even XEN/VirtualBox manages to be a better VM.

Sadly, VMWare's best hypervisor, their true "bare metal" RING-0 hv that runs bellow everything (thus making everything else a "guest") doesn't support 3D. VMWare doesn't like pissing off enterprise customers with "experimental" features that "might" work, unlike M$.

p.s. mouse or not, VMWare does have a saving grace. It makes for a great way to code custom buff trainers with AutoIT. Anti-cheats can't really catch that which they can't see running

[josped]

Originally Posted by xtJamie

Is there not any improvement by modifying the vmx for a separate mouse though? If you disable these 'optimization mouse settings' surely there are enough parameters that can be configured to improve some of the mouse issues?

Yeah I could imagine you wouldn't have had the hardware for virtualization, it isn't common hardware.

The other thought I have would DPI scaling not make any difference?

Issue is twofold.

For it to work "well" while virtualized, you need the standard settings and the driver installed. That makes it 1:1 correlate with your mouse.

For it to work "well with **** software", you need two things. Mod the vmx which disables the driver is the first, and that locks the mouse to the guest. The second is lowering the mouse DPI to ridiculous values (also needs a hacked driver for new 1000DPI mice). That makes DX/raw software see "small" movements (DirectInput), but side effect is that the whole Windows enviroment sees "microscopic if at all" movements.

As for the hardware issue, well, it's just that all i could afford back when was a e7400 which doesn't have Vt. Might change now that a Q6600 can be had for a song, but i'm not too happy with running a **** toaster

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