What is considered a succesful spoof?

[NigerianScammer]

TL;DR:

Spoke to riot employee the other day, they were able to see that I've spoofed multiple times in the past and been banned multiple times. Like they were able to state the exact number of times lol.

But this makes no sense. Everytime that I spoof, I always buy new TPM chip and play without cheats for 2-4 weeks. During these 2-4 weeks without cheats, I rarely get banned. 99% of my bans have occurred whilst I had a cheat injected.

So this should mean that my spoof was succesful. But apparently not if they can see that I was banned multiple times in the past. So my question is, how do I spoof in such a way that I appear as a new player to the game?

Is new PC + new router the only way?

[Pharma DMA]

I mean, as much as we tell ourselves riot has no clue when we "spoof TPM" it's sadly not true, it's obviously a general red flag when a player is using a DTPM instead of a FTPM.

Besides that, they also ban a row of other serials such as ARP Tables, Diskdrive serials, Motherboard UUIDS Serials Chassis. Point being, to be fully clean you'd just have to make everything look fresh. A lot of things factor into a delayed ban, and sadly it's practically impossible to find out whenever you're caught in one. Many times it can take longer than those 2-4 weeks you mentioned.

Unsure if you actually spoke to a developer or just one of the VPD twinks. But an actual developer could for sure just take a look at your Diskdrive serials and just figure you out that way, Diskdrive serials remain a hard component to spoof properly unless you got the right hardware for it (please don't mention RAID ). And if not Diskdrive serials you've still got device driver combinations, external component serials and a bunch of other factors that could have given you away.

[NigerianScammer]

Originally Posted by Zaptons

I mean, as much as we tell ourselves riot has no clue when we "spoof TPM" it's sadly not true, it's obviously a general red flag when a player is using a DTPM instead of a FTPM.

Besides that, they also ban a row of other serials such as ARP Tables, Diskdrive serials, Motherboard UUIDS Serials Chassis. Point being, to be fully clean you'd just have to make everything look fresh. A lot of things factor into a delayed ban, and sadly it's practically impossible to find out whenever you're caught in one. Many times it can take longer than those 2-4 weeks you mentioned.

Unsure if you actually spoke to a developer or just one of the VPD twinks. But an actual developer could for sure just take a look at your Diskdrive serials and just figure you out that way, Diskdrive serials remain a hard component to spoof properly unless you got the right hardware for it (please don't mention RAID ). And if not Diskdrive serials you've still got device driver combinations, external component serials and a bunch of other factors that could have given you away.

Thanks for detailed response.

Originally Posted by Zaptons

Many times it can take longer than those 2-4 weeks you mentioned

I don't know man. The only times I've been banned whilst playing legit after a spoof was when I was a novice using TPM bypasses. They would ban me within few games. But since I started using TPM chips and played without cheats, I can last for long periods of time. I feel like I could last indefinitely as long as I don't inject and don't get manual.

Originally Posted by Zaptons

Unsure if you actually spoke to a developer or just one of the VPD twinks. But an actual developer could for sure just take a look at your Diskdrive serials and just figure you out that way, Diskdrive serials remain a hard component to spoof properly unless you got the right hardware for it (please don't mention RAID ). And if not Diskdrive serials you've still got device driver combinations, external component serials and a bunch of other factors that could have given you away.

It's strange. It seems that Vanguard only runs some basic preliminary checks to see if you are spoofed. But the developers can check more advanced things like Diskdrive serials and stuff. Why not just make Vanguard capable of advanced checks and ban any spoofed player?

So essentially, the only way you survive a manual is with brand new computer or extensive knowledge to change all possible serials that could be linking you

[Pharma DMA]

Originally Posted by NigerianScammer

Thanks for detailed response.



I don't know man. The only times I've been banned whilst playing legit after a spoof was when I was a novice using TPM bypasses. They would ban me within few games. But since I started using TPM chips and played without cheats, I can last for long periods of time. I feel like I could last indefinitely as long as I don't inject and don't get manual.



It's strange. It seems that Vanguard only runs some basic preliminary checks to see if you are spoofed. But the developers can check more advanced things like Diskdrive serials and stuff. Why not just make Vanguard capable of advanced checks and ban any spoofed player?

So essentially, the only way you survive a manual is with brand new computer or extensive knowledge to change all possible serials that could be linking you

That's pretty much the point, they want you to feel like you're safe. Until you're not, it can quite literally take months for certain delayed bans.

As for why vanguard doesn't straight up ban you, it's quite simple. Same thing as why certain flags for cheating only appear while manually reviewed. Everything you do that is considered suspicious is saved and logged. Doesn't directly lead to a ban because of the uncertainty factor while it also makes it way harder to spoof as you never know how far you need go to actually be safe.

Best case you'd get a new cpu, new motherboard, new SSD's. And second best would just be to keep your old CPU and install DTPM. But FTPM is always preferred.

[Lianaxh]

Do not use tpm chip when using cheats, when you use tpm chip vngrd sends you for manual review...

[Toxic.dll]

Originally Posted by Lianaxh

Do not use tpm chip when using cheats, when you use tpm chip vngrd sends you for manual review...

Fake INFO, its a small flag not enought to manual review, just case you already have other flags or get a bunch of reports (like SO MUCH)

[Idklmao61]

Originally Posted by NigerianScammer

TL;DR:

Spoke to riot employee the other day, they were able to see that I've spoofed multiple times in the past and been banned multiple times. Like they were able to state the exact number of times lol.

But this makes no sense. Everytime that I spoof, I always buy new TPM chip and play without cheats for 2-4 weeks. During these 2-4 weeks without cheats, I rarely get banned. 99% of my bans have occurred whilst I had a cheat injected.

So this should mean that my spoof was succesful. But apparently not if they can see that I was banned multiple times in the past. So my question is, how do I spoof in such a way that I appear as a new player to the game?

Is new PC + new router the only way?

Haven't cheated in Val before but I'm curious about a few things that Ive seen info about on here, what spoofer are you using? Are you spoofing router?

Are you using different discord accounts, windows key/installations

Have you tried actually fully replacing your SDD?

Genuinely curious because if your doing everything right in terms of spoofing and stuff yet they know everything then wtf lmao

[NigerianScammer]

Originally Posted by Idklmao61

Haven't cheated in Val before but I'm curious about a few things that Ive seen info about on here, what spoofer are you using? Are you spoofing router?

Are you using different discord accounts, windows key/installations

Have you tried actually fully replacing your SDD?

Genuinely curious because if your doing everything right in terms of spoofing and stuff yet they know everything then wtf lmao

If you spoof and buy TPM chip, then you will be able to play just fine.

But the issue that I was getting at in my post was that when a manual check is done, the admins are still able to link you to your previous banned accounts.

So to have a chance at surviving a manual linking, you need to do what Zaptons said and replace more items in your PC.

But if you find a decent cheat and don't play blatant, you can last some time with the Spoof+tpm chip method, as long as u dont get manual

[GabRam2]

So if we wait 120 days instead of modifying our serials Vanguard won't consider it a spoof right? and we can avoid getting banned later at high elo due to previous punishments.

If thats the case I find waiting punishemtns out worth it.

[Toxic.dll]

Originally Posted by GabRam2

So if we wait 120 days instead of modifying our serials Vanguard won't consider it a spoof right? and we can avoid getting banned later at high elo due to previous punishments.

If thats the case I find waiting punishemtns out worth it.

If you wait 120 days yea wont consider as spoof and you wont get banned later

[Idklmao61]

Originally Posted by NigerianScammer

If you spoof and buy TPM chip, then you will be able to play just fine.

But the issue that I was getting at in my post was that when a manual check is done, the admins are still able to link you to your previous banned accounts.

So to have a chance at surviving a manual linking, you need to do what Zaptons said and replace more items in your PC.

But if you find a decent cheat and don't play blatant, you can last some time with the Spoof+tpm chip method, as long as u dont get manual

Sorry I don't mean to be toxic or anything but you didn't really my questions, are you spoofing absolutely everything your supposed to be spoofing? If your not doing everything you need to be doing then its kind of to be expected that they know of your previous bans and stuff. If you really are doing everything right in terms of spoofing yet they know everything then ppl attempting to get around hardware bans have a very big problem on their hands lmao.

[Springday7]

Originally Posted by Lianaxh

Do not use tpm chip when using cheats, when you use tpm chip vngrd sends you for manual review...

Lian shut up if that were the case I would've been banned a long time ago. Don't spread misinformation, VPD rat kid.

[Lianaxh]

"VPD rat kid", the haters are still here, shame on you

[123BarCode]

Originally Posted by Toxic.dll

Fake INFO, its a small flag not enought to manual review, just case you already have other flags or get a bunch of reports (like SO MUCH)

Just a couple of questions cause I've seen you around a lot and you seem to know what you're talking about. So let's say I properly spoof, do raid0, spoof all serials, have a new TPM chip, but the only thing I don't switch is my ARP will I be okay in high elo?

[Toxic.dll]

Originally Posted by 123BarCode

Just a couple of questions cause I've seen you around a lot and you seem to know what you're talking about. So let's say I properly spoof, do raid0, spoof all serials, have a new TPM chip, but the only thing I don't switch is my ARP will I be okay in high elo?

You will be banned due the raid 0 and arp