[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

[lort1234]

Originally Posted by theminkman

When it comes to Quantum's shady past, it's important to clarify that it was never Manhattan who engaged in scamming. The issues mainly stemmed from individuals involved in reselling his products some of whom betrayed his trust and acted independently.

As for the "bad stuff" in Quantum Loader, those were security measures specifically implemented to target individuals attempting to dump or crack the cheat. These measures were never executed on regular users. To my knowledge, no misuse of collected data occurred, and these protections were later removed after the Quantum owner became a target of criticism, with people bringing up past incidents. Currently, Quantum does not appear to be doing anything invasive, and any logs that are collected are deleted after 7 days.

Regarding detection history, it's true that Quantum (and Fluent) are more frequently targeted by EasyAntiCheat, due to the large user base both bring.

That said, Fluent does not deserve to be on an untrusted list. The developer Ghost, who works with Manhattan’s bypass has consistently proven to be responsible and transparent. He takes the cheat offline immediately upon detection, freezes all subscriptions, compensates users for any lost time, and rolls out updates almost instantly.

In my opinion, Ghost/Fluent deserves a higher rating than Matrix/Chase Nelson and QuantumCheat, both in terms of ethical conduct and developer support.

Well you "seem" to know a lot about the situation, but i have already had a discussion with "Ghost" the developer of Fluent about Manhatten's/Manny's past.

I told him i would provide all the proof/evidence publicly here on epvp, after that he wasn't interested in knowing about his past, i do not wanna argue back and forth with individuals anymore anywhere, i instead want to provide the proof of said things if needed and asked for.

Unless you have some concrete evidence of your claims, i also don't wanna deal/argue you with since it's a waste of time, so i am going to explain this once now, and let you think whatever you wanna think, as i do not care and i am the one that maintaining this list, and have proof/evidence of all my claims with all providers.

When this is said i have nothing against Ghost/Fluent and i have admitted it being one of the best rage cheats there is on the market many times now, but i won't recommend anyone any product that have a very "flawed" past. (Manhatten's/Manny's past)

[theminkman]

Originally Posted by lort1234

Well you "seem" to know a lot about the situation, but i have already had a discussion with "Ghost" the developer of Fluent about Manhatten's/Manny's past.

I told him i would provide all the proof/evidence publicly here on epvp, after that he wasn't interested in knowing about his past, i do not wanna argue back and forth with individuals anymore anywhere, i instead want to provide the proof of said things if needed and asked for.

Unless you have some concrete evidence of your claims, i also don't wanna deal/argue you with since it's a waste of time, so i am going to explain this once now, and let you think whatever you wanna think, as i do not care and i am the one that maintaining this list, and have proof/evidence of all my claims with all providers.

When this is said i have nothing against Ghost/Fluent and i have admitted it being one of the best rage cheats there is on the market many times now, but i won't recommend anyone any product that have a very "flawed" past. (Manhatten's/Manny's past)

Isn't it funny that the messages are sent from ChaseNelson but you are still listing him as a trusted provider?

[lort1234]

Originally Posted by theminkman

Isn't it funny that the messages are sent from ChaseNelson but you are still listing him as a trusted provider?

You don't have the context for the ss, as i said i do have the proof/evidence needed for my claims.

[cyber-ammo]

Originally Posted by xhzi

i have my dma and everything but i just dont wanna buy some *** FW to have it blocked within a month because its some free pasted FW being sold for 100+ usd ik you said youre hesitant but i just need atleast somewhere to go

We have zero detections since release (approx 2 years ago)

Although blocks are more lucky based (anti-cheats can block any device they want, be it DMA firmware or the original/legit device the firmware was emulating), we have very good records like 1+ year without being blocked (no bans)

Last vouches posted by our customers after the last blockwave (screenshot taken on 08/01/2025 [mm/dd/yyyy], there are more vouches as the days went by):



EPVP Thread: https://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/ru...stop-shop.html

[theminkman]

Originally Posted by cyber-ammo

We have zero detections since release (approx 2 years ago)

Although blocks are more lucky based (anti-cheats can block any device they want, be it DMA firmware or the original/legit device the firmware was emulating), we have very good records like 1+ year without being blocked (no bans)

Last vouches posted by our customers after the last blockwave (screenshot taken on 08/01/2025 [mm/dd/yyyy], there are more vouches as the days went by):



EPVP Thread:

[Awesoming]

Originally Posted by theminkman

Your replies showed that you were not worth responding to, but since you insist and have the potential to be a victim of misinformation, I will respond to you (this will be my last reply, I have more important things to do than pointing out obvious lies).

1. The server called "DMA scam report" is known to collaborate with several different scammers (by not banning them), who use many fake accounts to spread false information (lies) about legit FW providers and forward people who DM them asking for FW recommendations to their fake FW server + scam them

They even have their own role: "Scammer", and guess what? All the accounts that are spreading lies about cyber-ammo have this role:





It's a bit sus to believe something from a person who has a "Scammer" role, or also from a Discord server that doesn't ban these people, and prefers to give them roles, right?

2. In the same screenshot you sent in the last EPVP thread, the store you're accusing (cyber-ammo) is claiming it's a lie and that it has no involvement with the accused store (DEPSHOP), and yet you, insist on saying that cyber-ammo is lying (?). How can you have such privileged information that not even the people who work there have it?

Why would I reply something that stupid?



Assuming you're not a fake account simply spreading false information (or maybe even that guy with scammer role on the screenshot above), join our server and ask our hundreds of FW customers. I guarantee they'll tell you otherwise.

We are well known in the DMA market for guaranteeing quality products/firmwares. Don't believe what people with zero reputation in the market say (there is a high chance that they are for scamming/gaining FW sales purposes)

Please stop to think about your next reply and do it smartly, depending on it, I will know if you are a fake account or just a person who ended up being a victim of false information

[lort1234]

Originally Posted by Awesoming

Your replies showed that you were not worth responding to, but since you insist and have the potential to be a victim of misinformation, I will respond to you (this will be my last reply, I have more important things to do than pointing out obvious lies).

1. The server called "DMA scam report" is known to collaborate with several different scammers (by not banning them), who use many fake accounts to spread false information (lies) about legit FW providers and forward people who DM them asking for FW recommendations to their fake FW server + scam them

They even have their own role: "Scammer", and guess what? All the accounts that are spreading lies about cyber-ammo have this role:





It's a bit sus to believe something from a person who has a "Scammer" role, or also from a Discord server that doesn't ban these people, and prefers to give them roles, right?

2. In the same screenshot you sent in the last EPVP thread, the store you're accusing (cyber-ammo) is claiming it's a lie and that it has no involvement with the accused store (DEPSHOP), and yet you, insist on saying that cyber-ammo is lying (?). How can you have such privileged information that not even the people who work there have it?

Why would I reply something that stupid?



Assuming you're not a fake account simply spreading false information (or maybe even that guy with scammer role on the screenshot above), join our server and ask our hundreds of FW customers. I guarantee they'll tell you otherwise.

We are well known in the DMA market for guaranteeing quality products/firmwares. Don't believe what people with zero reputation in the market say (there is a high chance that they are for scamming/gaining FW sales purposes)

Please stop to think about your next reply and do it smartly, depending on it, I will know if you are a fake account or just a person who ended up being a victim of false information

Well responded.

[SauceMachine]

Originally Posted by Awesoming

Your replies showed that you were not worth responding to, but since you insist and have the potential to be a victim of misinformation, I will respond to you (this will be my last reply, I have more important things to do than pointing out obvious lies).

1. The server called "DMA scam report" is known to collaborate with several different scammers (by not banning them), who use many fake accounts to spread false information (lies) about legit FW providers and forward people who DM them asking for FW recommendations to their fake FW server + scam them

They even have their own role: "Scammer", and guess what? All the accounts that are spreading lies about cyber-ammo have this role:





It's a bit sus to believe something from a person who has a "Scammer" role, or also from a Discord server that doesn't ban these people, and prefers to give them roles, right?

2. In the same screenshot you sent in the last EPVP thread, the store you're accusing (cyber-ammo) is claiming it's a lie and that it has no involvement with the accused store (DEPSHOP), and yet you, insist on saying that cyber-ammo is lying (?). How can you have such privileged information that not even the people who work there have it?

Why would I reply something that stupid?



Assuming you're not a fake account simply spreading false information (or maybe even that guy with scammer role on the screenshot above), join our server and ask our hundreds of FW customers. I guarantee they'll tell you otherwise.

We are well known in the DMA market for guaranteeing quality products/firmwares. Don't believe what people with zero reputation in the market say (there is a high chance that they are for scamming/gaining FW sales purposes)

Please stop to think about your next reply and do it smartly, depending on it, I will know if you are a fake account or just a person who ended up being a victim of false information

Save your time, this user is just a meme.

[theminkman]

Originally Posted by Awesoming

2. In the same screenshot you sent in the last EPVP thread, the store you're accusing (cyber-ammo) is claiming it's a lie and that it has no involvement with the accused store (DEPSHOP), and yet you, insist on saying that cyber-ammo is lying (?). How can you have such privileged information that not even the people who work there have it?

That’s not entirely accurate, but maybe I wasn’t clear enough.

Both I and another user on this forum purchased the DMA firmware from Depshop. After purchasing, we were directed to Cyber-Ammo for support this was explicitly mentioned in the message we received after-purchase.

The firmware in question was detected from release and later got ban-waved, yet both Depshop and their support team denied it, blaming cheats, spoofers, or anything else, a common deflection tactic in this scene.

I just found it ironic that Cyber-Ammo is now advertising their firmware as “UD” (undetected), while Depshop was previously promoting those same products.

When it comes to the dma scamming discord, I just used that for more fuel in my trolling cause saying it was a "error in their website" code is such a re* Russian reply.

Originally Posted by SauceMachine

Save your time, this user is just a meme.

Keep being mad

[maseratti]

Originally Posted by theminkman

That’s not entirely accurate, but maybe I wasn’t clear enough.

Both I and another user on this forum purchased the DMA firmware from Depshop. After purchasing, we were directed to Cyber-Ammo for support this was explicitly mentioned in the message we received after-purchase.

The firmware in question was detected from release and later got ban-waved, yet both Depshop and their support team denied it, blaming cheats, spoofers, or anything else, a common deflection tactic in this scene.

I just found it ironic that Cyber-Ammo is now advertising their firmware as “UD” (undetected), while Depshop was previously promoting those same products.

When it comes to the dma scamming discord, I just used that for more fuel in my trolling cause saying it was a "error in their website" code is such a re* Russian reply.



Keep being mad

you are such a ******. also a pooron buying 100$ fws thinking u will be good *****

[theminkman]

Originally Posted by maseratti

you are such a ******. also a pooron buying 100$ fws thinking u will be good *****

Imagine thinking price = quality in a scene where half the "premium" firmwares are just rebranded and still get detected.

I bought what worked for what I needed at the time. Just because something costs more doesn’t magically make it better, especially when some of the overpriced ones are the first to get hit.

But hey, if paying more gives you peace of mind, go for it. I’ll stick to judging based on results, not price tags.

[lort1234]

Originally Posted by theminkman

That’s not entirely accurate, but maybe I wasn’t clear enough.

Both I and another user on this forum purchased the DMA firmware from Depshop. After purchasing, we were directed to Cyber-Ammo for support this was explicitly mentioned in the message we received after-purchase.

The firmware in question was detected from release and later got ban-waved, yet both Depshop and their support team denied it, blaming cheats, spoofers, or anything else, a common deflection tactic in this scene.

I just found it ironic that Cyber-Ammo is now advertising their firmware as “UD” (undetected), while Depshop was previously promoting those same products.

When it comes to the dma scamming discord, I just used that for more fuel in my trolling cause saying it was a "error in their website" code is such a re* Russian reply.



Keep being mad

Admitting to trolling with indirect accusations, I believe this is against the rules here on epvp.. Stay out on this thread if you have nothing worth sharing.

[theminkman]

Originally Posted by lort1234

Admitting to trolling with indirect accusations, I believe this is against the rules here on epvp.. Stay out on this thread if you have nothing worth sharing.

It's funny how you skipped the entire post and latched onto one sarcastic line at the end which was clearly a throwaway comment while ignoring the actual firsthand experience I shared about Depshop and Cyber-Ammo.

That’s not “indirect accusations,” it’s what actually happened. I mentioned getting directed to Cyber-Ammo for support after purchasing from Depshop, and the firmware being detected on release, which is something others experienced too.

If you’re going to engage, address the full context not just the part that’s easiest to twist.

[lort1234]

Originally Posted by theminkman

It's funny how you skipped the entire post and latched onto one sarcastic line at the end which was clearly a throwaway comment while ignoring the actual firsthand experience I shared about Depshop and Cyber-Ammo.

That’s not “indirect accusations,” it’s what actually happened. I mentioned getting directed to Cyber-Ammo for support after purchasing from Depshop, and the firmware being detected on release, which is something others experienced too.

If you’re going to engage, address the full context not just the part that’s easiest to twist.

I don't see why it's worth addressing anyting else, when you yourself admitting to using ss from a known scammer discord to add "fuel" to the conversation.

If you want to be seen as credible, you must proof you are before anyone will believe you, that means providing proof of you claims which you have failed to to multiple times now, and instead are admitting to trolling and using known bad sources for your "proof".

[theminkman]

Originally Posted by lort1234

I don't see why it's worth addressing anyting else, when you yourself admitting to using ss from a known scammer discord to add "fuel" to the conversation.

If you want to be seen as credible, you must proof you are before anyone will believe you, that means providing proof of you claims which you have failed to to multiple times now, and instead are admitting to trolling and using known bad sources for your "proof".

I did not use screenshots from a scammer discord, what the hell are you talking about?

I am not even inside the DMA scammer report discord server, I linked images of what "Cyber-Ammo" posted and what another customer said on Elitepvpers.

I think you need a reality check