[UNOFFICIAL] List Of Legit and Scam Providers List

[SauceMachine]

Originally Posted by lort1234

That could be a solution, but then again with no verified vouches/reviews, they could literally be scams.

Ofc for known private providers this could be a solution, but for unknown which tier 4 is for, i don’t think it’s a good solution.

I can make a pool asking the community, if they want providers added without any vouches/reviews/information. But then you also open the list up for possible resellers, scams and cheat of poor quality.

And if we do that, in what tier should they be added? Tier 4 is meant to be a tier for new providers to be in until they have proven quality/safety of their products and name.

I understand, it's a challenging situation. What may seem simple at first glance can often turn out to be more complex than one initially realizes.

[lort1234]

Yes indeed. That’s why i wanna take is slowly and see how things goes, it’s always better to be safer in my opinion.

If someone have a solution for it would love to hear about it, I am hoping this list is going to be community driven with status’s, experiences, information and providers.

[alexpsp00]

Originally Posted by PooDyr

Private providers want to stay... private. Usually they have very limited slots so being inundated with 5000 0 rep users begging for a slot daily isn't something they want.

It doesnt matter Thats a problem for the provider. This list is to provide as valid and transparent info about ALL providers regardless. I myself get annoying DMs everyday about priv9 as i am one of the owners. I shouldnt have a say whether its listed or not.

Originally Posted by lort1234

Yes indeed. That’s why i wanna take is slowly and see how things goes, it’s always better to be safer in my opinion.

If someone have a solution for it would love to hear about it, I am hoping this list is going to be community driven with status’s, experiences, information and providers.

Unfortunately i dont have any ideas for How this should work i just dont see the point in this thread even existing If its not completely community driven.

[lort1234]

Originally Posted by alexpsp00

Unfortunately i dont have any ideas for How this should work i just dont see the point in this thread even existing If its not completely community driven.

Let me explain the point of the list then.

The list is made for people to have a easy, relative safe and educated choice picking when it comes to choosing a provider they wanna use.

This requires some things like..

• Experiences from other Elitepvpers.
• Vouches/reviews.
• Reputation.
• General information about the product.
• More specific information such as dtc dates, win version, requirements etc.

When this is said i want this thread to be community driven, BUT it also need to be a relative safe list for people to choose from, because of that i have made the "tier explanation" explaining how each tier works and what it requires to be on each tier.

I have asked to community multiple times if they have any suggestions or changes they want to see, and you weren't the only with the same views as yours, but if we do that you say we need a relative safe way of doing it, that makes sure that scam, poor quality and malicious providers do not get on the list.

When it comes to private i want to add them, but what good is it adding private providers? And how safe it is? You can read what i already explained to SauceMachine about it, finding a solution to it isn't as simple as it may seem.

As said before, i am open to all suggestions and ideas etc, and then everyone here can discuss them freely, but i need a safe way of doing what you are suggestion, if you have a solution i would like to hear it.

Dopamine & Serotonin is having a small amount of their user base getting banned over the last couple of days, the status is set to Unknown for now.

[alexpsp00]

Originally Posted by lort1234

Let me explain the point of the list then.

The list is made for people to have a easy, relative safe and educated choice picking when it comes to choosing a provider they wanna use.

This requires some things like..

• Experiences from other Elitepvpers.
• Vouches/reviews.
• Reputation.
• General information about the product.
• More specific information such as dtc dates, win version, requirements etc.

When this is said i want this thread to be community driven, BUT it also need to be a relative safe list for people to choose from, because of that i have made the "tier explanation" explaining how each tier works and what it requires to be on each tier.

When it comes to private i want to add them, but what good is it adding private providers? And how safe it is? You can read what i already explained to SauceMachine about it, finding a solution to it isn't as simple as it may seem.

I think Priv9 and especially EC are good examples of privates that could easily be listed as most people know about these providers and that they are legit. EC is arguably one of the biggest p2cs that has existed for rust considering they were public before and had many many users and even free weekends. Things like last detections etc may be unknown which may lower their tier or trust score etc as less is known about them.

And like with many other things simply ask in the thread if you require more information im sure people will provide it sooner or later.

[lort1234]

Originally Posted by alexpsp00

I think Priv9 and especially EC are good examples of privates that could easily be listed as most people know about these providers and that they are legit. EC is arguably one of the biggest p2cs that has existed for rust considering they were public before and had many many users and even free weekends. Things like last detections etc may be unknown which may lower their tier or trust score etc as less is known about them.

And like with many other things simply ask in the thread if you require more information im sure people will provide it sooner or later.

I can see what you mean, I already agreed with these 2 private providers being able to be on the list, I will think about which tier they should be in, but again it is difficult to decide since most information is unknown/hard to get.

One of the points of having a vouche/review is so there is information about the product, because private product can also be poor quality/badly maintained so that could indicate them being in tier 2-3.

But again I agree with some of your points, I will see in which tiers they will get added.

The 2 mentioned private providers have been added. Unknown information about both is missing, and would appreciate if people would share the missing information on here.

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by alexpsp00

I think Priv9 and especially EC are good examples of privates that could easily be listed as most people know about these providers and that they are legit. EC is arguably one of the biggest p2cs that has existed for rust considering they were public before and had many many users and even free weekends. Things like last detections etc may be unknown which may lower their tier or trust score etc as less is known about them.

And like with many other things simply ask in the thread if you require more information im sure people will provide it sooner or later.

i did speak to acus a while back about listing it, he just didnt want to be listed. As he didnt want an influx of interest

[lort1234]

Originally Posted by Relentless

i did speak to acus a while back about listing it, he just didnt want to be listed. As he didnt want an influx of interest

I thought I remembered that, but he do have a good point about it.

[alexpsp00]

Originally Posted by lort1234

I thought I remembered that, but he do have a good point about it.

Yeah but like mentioned before providers and people who stand to gain from the list shouldnt have any say in if they are listed and where they are listed.
These people can only provide information and then the community has to back up the claims they make.

Like mentioned many times now, community driven.

Maybe also add a price (per month) to each provider?

[lort1234]

Originally Posted by alexpsp00

Yeah but like mentioned before providers and people who stand to gain from the list shouldnt have any say in if they are listed and where they are listed.
These people can only provide information and then the community has to back up the claims they make.

Like mentioned many times now, community driven.

Maybe also add a price (per month) to each provider?

Yes i totally agree with the community driven aspect of it. These 2 providers will stay on the list, unless moderators tell me otherwise.

I will take a look into it, atm i have tried to make it as clean as possible without too many "tab" in the list, but i will see how it looks, otherwise i might add price in the "notes" tab. But it's a good suggestion!

[alexpsp00]

Originally Posted by lort1234

Yes i totally agree with the community driven aspect of it. These 2 providers will stay on the list, unless moderators tell me otherwise.

I will take a look into it, atm i have tried to make it as clean as possible without too many "tab" in the list, but i will see how it looks, otherwise i might add price in the "notes" tab. But it's a good suggestion!

Could also maybe specify whether a provider is external or internal.

[lort1234]

Originally Posted by alexpsp00

Could also maybe specify whether a provider is external or internal.

I have already done that in the notes and provider name, i did think about making another "tab" but again, i think it's best to have it as clean as possible, only very needed information as a "tab".

But it's a good idea.

[Relentless]

Potential ban wave on dopamine, source - their discord

[lort1234]

Dopamine have been hit by a ban wave.

Status have been changed to DTC do NOT use atm.

[Krad3z3]

So all banned people from this thread and ones that had their ban reports deleted were right?

There was way more ban reports off this thread too, on other servers. I got many users from that exact time too, all my new users claimed dopa was detected at time.

What do you guys think?