little sneak peek on progress

[ismokedrow]

Speedy you really must not get it. The screen shot thing only works on people who don't know how to run a server. All you've managed to achieve is making yourself + NCarbon look worse. You don't respond to me at all in fear of being utterly trashed every single time you do (by Logic of all things.)

Furthermore, by working on Dura, Staged Skills, Death Tyrant, Staging Belts, Staging Pets you are moving away from the issues of stability/efficiency and instead bringing in the same exact downfall that Gala did by introducing Dura/Staged Pets/Death Tyrant (A supposedly rare pet that's not rare at all)

It is so amazing how convoluted you people really act. You have already proven that you only want the fame repeatedly.

-Releasing Screen Shots with no updates.
-Releasing Screen Shots in the hopes of starting flame wars.
-Releasing Small Repacks that had almost nothing fixed in comparison with the original released months before them.
-Releasing an unstable CaptainHerlock (This is what tons of Hex Edits do)
-Releasing a piss poorly documented project.


Not only that but on top of the a-fore mentioned:

-Your group is full of severe braggarts.
-Your group chastises users for their ideals.
-Your Dev Team ran away when questioned on their motives.
-You + Wisp66 admitted that your team can not work inside of any environment where they can be questioned.
-NCarbon have little interest in being mature.
-NCarbon has expressed very openly, that the words: Organization, Direction, Goal, Purpose.. have no room in your vocabulary.
-Not releasing tools that were originally built to modify 'Stolen' data. (Huge surprise there.)

At the end of the day I'm still going to stand here and oppose your shenanigans and those of NCarbon as long as you choose the act this way. Your delusional team has somehow convinced it's members that making something that has no bearing on real life or any bearing on the life of any of it's users should be praised as if it resided in the sky and looked down upon your every move.

You may have those who can not speak English well, enthralled into your little Fantasy. But the people deserve better than this Cat and Mouse game that you are helping NCarbon push. You Speedy-NL are worse than the Narc, worse than the Anarchist, you sir are a human lap dog.

I have always wondered what it felt like to sit helplessly at the foot of my masters, licking the putrid salt off their skin and listening as they talked their ignorance to me, all the while a huge smile upon your lips and drool a drip from the corners of your mouth. You disgust me thoroughly Speedy-NL and someday you might just understand why.

I fear my point will fall upon many deaf ears as the prize of being dribble upon by the NCarbon Dev Team because of their 'Shinnies' is simply to tempting to ignore. Only goes to show the world has been Westernized and things like 'Functionality, Stability' no longer hold merit in your eyes. Only the 'Bigger, Better, Deal.' it is for this reason Rappelz has been rotting for years.

[d3v1an]

WowWow drama, nice...

[Ranma014]

@ismokes post
I can agree on that, except the part about not releasing the extraction/importing tool for the client files.
The old arcadia dev forum is partly in googles cache and there was a discussion about decrypting those files. They did try different tools and keys, as far as googles cache goes, but I admit that its not certain if they used or changed an already present tool that was used for other games dat files already ot developed their own.
I think it was mentioned that the client calls an unpacking process at start and that the keys might be saves inside the clients data.000 file.

@ontopic:
Id also prefer some updates on stability, instead of all the new content. e.g. crashes fixed and a fully cleaned and working database, removing of dublicate entries.
Some time ago I asked Pyrok about their knowledge of the database and he said, that hes not really working on it, but trying to fix other issues not related to the database. all i can see here are more gimmicks that might produce more crashes and bugs on populated servers.

I know I am not a dev and I have to wait for their work to be released, but Id wish for more transperancy. Theyd get my praise if they can produce a version that is completely (relatively) bug and crash free with a non clusteres database. I dont need new summons or new item properties. All they do right now is please the masses in the matter of *ohhh shiny new things*. Once the current version is working 90-100% they can start adding new stuff, but I think the priority right now should be to make it stable.

[ismokedrow]

Originally Posted by speedy-nl

you all claim that you can fix thing so why not start doing that, tools make them yourself

Nope never made that claim. But thanks for trying to push 'False' information again.

updates make them yourself, do you realy need ncarbon for all that

You're the only one saying I need them.

you dont like my posting why even bother to post then

You're idiocy can be allowed to be left unchecked.

in the end its the same store, blaming/flaming ncarbon, but stil waiting on the new repacks/updates

You're still the 'ONLY' person who thinks I give a flying f&^k about NCarbons future updates.

futher more i realy dont care wat you think of me, you cant flame me i'm immume for that

Yes you do, that's why you respond nearly every time. Does it feel good eating virtual dirt for the ones above you (NCarbon)?

now continue your lil speeches/flaming/bragging/trolling

Your choice of words is interesting to say the least. Considering that you said 'Speeches' would denote you read everything I said and still don't understand which = Super Failure.

Then you follow it up with 'Flaming/Bragging/Trolling' only one of which I admit to doing. 'Flaming' because I have never attack you OR NCarbon with no reason. (AkA; Trolling) and when the f$%k did I brag about anything lol.

There Speedy-NL I slowed it down and gave you a play by play so hopefully you could understand some more of it. You're retorts are full of lies and misleading information. WOAH! Kinda like NCarbon, you guys are the perfect match.

[gustavo0777]

'll wait out =)

[lilnani]

Ismoke u are just talk u cant do any thing because u dont have any tools so u just f***k talking u release just bad things u cant fix dura, skills , any thing just go out from this forum no one need u and ur fixes

bla bla bla bla,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[d3v1an]

same, im wait :P

[ismokedrow]

Originally Posted by lilnani

Ismoke u are just talk u cant do any thing because u dont have any tools so u just f***k talking u release just bad things u cant fix dura, skills , any thing just go out from this forum no one need u and ur fixes

bla bla bla bla,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Ok Speedy-NL, calm down. All I see is a bunch of parrots trying to use the same insults that Speedy-NL failed to use. You would think as logical 'humans' you would see (hmnn this isn't working, maybe I shouldn't follow this person.) But I do not blame you for your fallacies. Nor do I blame Speedy-NL for being a totally dependent lap-dog.

[Ne0@NCarbon]

Originally Posted by ismokedrow

Speedy you really must not get it. The screen shot thing only works on people who don't know how to run a server. All you've managed to achieve is making yourself + NCarbon look worse. You don't respond to me at all in fear of being utterly trashed every single time you do (by Logic of all things.)

Furthermore, by working on Dura, Staged Skills, Death Tyrant, Staging Belts, Staging Pets you are moving away from the issues of stability/efficiency and instead bringing in the same exact downfall that Gala did by introducing Dura/Staged Pets/Death Tyrant (A supposedly rare pet that's not rare at all)

It is so amazing how convoluted you people really act. You have already proven that you only want the fame repeatedly.

-Releasing Screen Shots with no updates.
-Releasing Screen Shots in the hopes of starting flame wars.
-Releasing Small Repacks that had almost nothing fixed in comparison with the original released months before them.
-Releasing an unstable CaptainHerlock (This is what tons of Hex Edits do)
-Releasing a piss poorly documented project.


Not only that but on top of the a-fore mentioned:

-Your group is full of severe braggarts.
-Your group chastises users for their ideals.
-Your Dev Team ran away when questioned on their motives.
-You + Wisp66 admitted that your team can not work inside of any environment where they can be questioned.
-NCarbon have little interest in being mature.
-NCarbon has expressed very openly, that the words: Organization, Direction, Goal, Purpose.. have no room in your vocabulary.
-Not releasing tools that were originally built to modify 'Stolen' data. (Huge surprise there.)

At the end of the day I'm still going to stand here and oppose your shenanigans and those of NCarbon as long as you choose the act this way. Your delusional team has somehow convinced it's members that making something that has no bearing on real life or any bearing on the life of any of it's users should be praised as if it resided in the sky and looked down upon your every move.

You may have those who can not speak English well, enthralled into your little Fantasy. But the people deserve better than this Cat and Mouse game that you are helping NCarbon push. You Speedy-NL are worse than the Narc, worse than the Anarchist, you sir are a human lap dog.

I have always wondered what it felt like to sit helplessly at the foot of my masters, licking the putrid salt off their skin and listening as they talked their ignorance to me, all the while a huge smile upon your lips and drool a drip from the corners of your mouth. You disgust me thoroughly Speedy-NL and someday you might just understand why.

I fear my point will fall upon many deaf ears as the prize of being dribble upon by the NCarbon Dev Team because of their 'Shinnies' is simply to tempting to ignore. Only goes to show the world has been Westernized and things like 'Functionality, Stability' no longer hold merit in your eyes. Only the 'Bigger, Better, Deal.' it is for this reason Rappelz has been rotting for years.

@Ismoke,

First excuse me for ma bad english, i'm not english.
I think that you are more inteligent than that.
If the ncarbon feeling do not make you happy, make it yourself it's simple.
But you are using the gs modded by us, the db reconstruct by us, etc etc.
So if all of this doesn't meet you, do it all by yourself, download the original leaked file published by turion and do all the work yourself
Debug yourself, hex edit the gs, reconstruct the database, reconstruct the smp and reconstruct all.
Remember that we do this for fun, and the dt is for us because we want play on this game not only consume a huge amount of hours working on it.
Do you think we can't play rappelz ?we must only work on it ? no it's just for fun only fun and we are not paid for doing this.
If this state of mind you do not like, rebuke from scratch, it's simple and stop flam, troll all the thread.
You say i will release i will post i will debug i have fix, i have .... but nothing happen, just 2 or 3 lua posted, lollllll
You use our files, like all other, we fixed things we we have time to, but we have an real life and rappelz is not our life.
This does not suit you, do everything yourself and stop waiting us.
It's so hard to understand that we are not forced to respond and correct all ?
Remember that it's just a game.

You have do very good work on lua with rofl, but all your work was based on our work, remember this.

Thanks and have fun !!

[ismokedrow]

Originally Posted by Ne0@NCarbon

@Ismoke,

First excuse me for ma bad english, i'm not english.
I think that you are more inteligent than that.
If the ncarbon feeling do not make you happy, make it yourself it's simple.
But you are using the gs modded by us, the db reconstruct by us, etc etc.
So if all of this doesn't meet you, do it all by yourself, download the original leaked file published by turion and do all the work yourself
Debug yourself, hex edit the gs, reconstruct the database, reconstruct the smp and reconstruct all.
Remember that we do this for fun, and the dt is for us because we want play on this game not only consume a huge amount of hours working on it.
Do you think we can't play rappelz ?we must only work on it ? no it's just for fun only fun and we are not paid for doing this.
If this state of mind you do not like, rebuke from scratch, it's simple and stop flam, troll all the thread.
You say i will release i will post i will debug i have fix, i have .... but nothing happen, just 2 or 3 lua posted, lollllll
You use our files, like all other, we fixed things we we have time to, but we have an real life and rappelz is not our life.
This does not suit you, do everything yourself and stop waiting us.
It's so hard to understand that we are not forced to respond and correct all ?
Remember that it's just a game.

You have do very good work on lua with rofl, but all your work was based on our work, remember this.

Thanks and have fun !!

Oh please as if that writing style didn't make you look like Wisp66 to begin with, secondly you have not answered but maybe one of the original issues being spoken about nor have you given any productive answer. You are simply trying to silence me for the betterment of NCarbon. Stop now and realize that I will only stop when NCarbon quits acting like a Secret Society and starts acting like a community project.

Until you have answered/responded to inquiries in an adult manner, with professional or at-least semi-legible grammar; NCarbon means nothing to me past a group of people who want to be E-Famous. All you do is trash any work that hasn't been done via your team (AkA Lua Edits/SQL Edits) when the pure simple fact of the matter is:

The following are the only possibles things to be done outside LUA/SQL;

- Dumping the Epic 7 client to see how it internal requests/sends data to the Databases and which tables/entries it requires. (Admittedly past my level of knowledge, never claimed to know how to do this.)

- Hex editing the Game/Auth Servers (This is only done because even though the DEV's can 'Dump' the client, they can't seem to 'Dump' CaptainHerlock and see why it's so unstable).

- Unpacking/Repacking client sided Data Files. (Again can only be done by NCarbon as they refuse to release any and all tools involved.)

- Creating Tools for Manipulation/Additions/Sub-Traction from/to Original Data.

Plus your excuse for working on the Death Tyrant is completely invalid. So because you want to have 'Fun' you ignore blatant issues of security and stability. You must have misunderstood what your team signed onto the moment you began this whole project. (Saying that you were even involved Neo)

[Ne0@NCarbon]

As i said we are not paid for this, we do this for fun so we are not professionnal as you said, want a pro team ? paid gala for this they sell latest files.

If we have made trash work, why you use it ? Made all from beginning by yourself. ....

DT is working completely for us, with skill and with staged skill like all other pet.

Fix by yourself, it's the only thing i have to say.
If you can't understand why we doesn't want to publish our private tool, it's your problem not our.
We have found a whole in client, if we publish it what you think gala will do ? Yes they will correct this whole and anyone can modded client.

Is this what you want ? If this you want, find the way to mod the client and dev your own tool and publish it.

As i say, you hate ncarbon it's your right, so do all by yourself.

You said you have made a lot so publish it, the community haven't seen your job instead of some lua.

In conclusion as i said, if things we do and how we do do not make you happy, do it yourself.

[ismokedrow]

Originally Posted by Ne0@NCarbon

As i said we are not paid for this, we do this for fun so we are not professionnal as you said, want a pro team ? paid gala for this they sell latest files.

If we have made trash work, why you use it ? Made all from beginning by yourself. ....

DT is working completely for us, with skill and with staged skill like all other pet.

Fix by yourself, it's the only thing i have to say.
If you can't understand why we doesn't want to publish our private tool, it's your problem not our.
We have found a whole in client, if we publish it what you think gala will do ? Yes they will correct this whole and anyone can modded client.

Is this what you want ? If this you want, find the way to mod the client and dev your own tool and publish it.

As i say, you hate ncarbon it's your right, so do all by yourself.

You said you have made a lot so publish it, the community haven't seen your job instead of some lua.

In conclusion as i said, if things we do and how we do do not make you happy, do it yourself.

You have once again failed to properly address over half the concerns posted up to this point. Your answers or retorts again serve no true function, you're simply parroting what Pyrok and Wisp66 and Speed-NL have said.

How about trying some originality and/or saying something other than. 'Don't like us, oh well.' because your public view isn't changing much. Did you write this all from scratch? No? Ok then.

As per your extremely invalid reasoning for withholding tools, again you have failed to demonstrate how this is helpful to the community as a whole or how it promotes steady growth and development.

Final Note:

Again, no one cares about a freakin DT or staged pet skills in comparison to Stability and Functionality. But feel free to continue to use the same methodical answers that fail to answer anything at all. You have truly proven that you belong with NCarbon.

NCarbons Motto: 'Modify work that's not originally ours, Call it ours. Elude any questioning of our methods, deceive any possible truths that make us look bad and finally silence and demean any attempt at creation outside of our personal network.'

[grymey]

smoke seems some ppl missed you bruh and had to attempt a flame war on here or something, i never had a prob with them holding back tools or things like that but it does seem counter productive, lost mad respect for this project when ppl were holding the whole we got the lag fix over the forums head, but seeing how ez the fix was what dev team would not tell the community about this MAJOR fix immediately...... apparently the person that as wisp says "leaked" it lol felt the same way as me.

[gavsta]

Originally Posted by ismokedrow

You have once again failed to properly address over half the concerns posted up to this point. Your answers or retorts again serve no true function, you're simply parroting what Pyrok and Wisp66 and Speed-NL have said.

How about trying some originality and/or saying something other than. 'Don't like us, oh well.' because your public view isn't changing much. Did you write this all from scratch? No? Ok then.

As per your extremely invalid reasoning for withholding tools, again you have failed to demonstrate how this is helpful to the community as a whole or how it promotes steady growth and development.

Final Note:

Again, no one cares about a freakin DT or staged pet skills in comparison to Stability and Functionality. But feel free to continue to use the same methodical answers that fail to answer anything at all. You have truly proven that you belong with NCarbon.

NCarbons Motto: 'Modify work that's not originally ours, Call it ours. Elude any questioning of our methods, deceive any possible truths that make us look bad and finally silence and demean any attempt at creation outside of our personal network.'

correct me if im wrong but your always flaming nCarbon Devs work. and now your flaming and asking for a tool at the same time, its like going up to somebody in the street ******** on his dog and saying... can i have your dogs lead please?

also NCdevs are working on deadlock also.

[ismokedrow]

Originally Posted by gavsta

correct me if im wrong but your always flaming nCarbon Devs work. and now your flaming and asking for a tool at the same time, its like going up to somebody in the street ******** on his dog and saying... can i have your dogs lead please?

You are once again showing your inability to accurately read or process the information I have posted.