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Gaara81 01/23/2016 09:51

Everytime I run any option on DERP it closes my game without message. I seen other people posting it recently.

I run the MOD and DERP
Any fix?

soullesswolf 01/23/2016 17:40

Does this still work?

If so, what else is being added?

1) can i see fishing boats?
2) can i see at least as far a a ship radar 1000m
3) can i view trade packs on boats?
4) how could i use this to pirate from other players on the sea?
5) is this basically only used for geting stuff under the water?
6) does it or can it have any type of useful radar to be able to give me max income effect. other then just sea boxes.


Does anyone know if sub's are worth the investment? i have no idea about the damage out. can it kill a fishing boat or keep up with one??

Thanks for answers

Ploxasarus 01/23/2016 18:38

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Originally Posted by Divi.nity (Post 33799375)
I don't know what's wrong but a few days back I started to get "Paket Error !!" messages everytime I want to join on a server. So I made a fresh install of AA and then of the mod pack but some hours later I had the same problem again. That sucks because I have to copy & paste the whole game_data.pak everytime I get this error which is few times a day.

Any solution to this?

Is this with the default base install or with the scripts running?


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Is it possible to test derp on pts or this something you are strictly handling?
Doing it myself, works fine, is not much changes to where I'm doing my edits in memory since the majority of the patch is in x2game.dll and the game_pak itself.



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Everytime I run any option on DERP it closes my game without message. I seen other people posting it recently.

I run the MOD and DERP
Any fix?
Check the version, make sure dx9 only, doesn't support steam or archebuddy.



Quote:

Does this still work?

If so, what else is being added?

1) can i see fishing boats?
2) can i see at least as far a a ship radar 1000m
3) can i view trade packs on boats?
4) how could i use this to pirate from other players on the sea?
5) is this basically only used for geting stuff under the water?
6) does it or can it have any type of useful radar to be able to give me max income effect. other then just sea boxes.


Does anyone know if sub's are worth the investment? i have no idea about the damage out. can it kill a fishing boat or keep up with one??

Thanks for answers
1. Boats got a bit of an increase in distance but its more so not always the case because the server does not always send the information to the client which the client is often dependent on that for rendering anything.
2. Same as above.
3. If I were to add it to change the pack inside the boat yes and its been requested/done and handed to a small bit of people that asked for it or the model to it.
4. By simply removing the water ingame and you'd be easy as anything to fight in the ocean, see a few pages back with Ultimate doing it on Kyprosa, granted he was a good pvper to start, he utilized it well in combat and also derp too, but I wouldn't recommend doing what he did with derp unless your going yolo mode ;)
5. Nope, also reaching places you shouldn't, changing cameras in a way your not supposed to, other things too.
6. I don't intend on working on a radar, there was one in the works but unfortunately sullx has taken absence ( like completely dropped off the world for some reason ) and it kind of left me with a blank on progressing further since I did most of the memory and he was doing the front and without the source that was being worked on I'm kind of at a disadvantage to do anything more with it an it screwed the whole idea.

It doesn't do damage out? There is no damage hack that is in the game, only one for speed - which is not public. In term's of speed, the speedhack can keepup with mytic sails without swim fins and just sprinting in water, if that was your question.

soullesswolf 01/23/2016 18:43

sorry was typing a bit too fast for my hands there :P

thank you for the fast reply.

i was just wondering if the sub's damage output was worth it. i seen a video where it hit a ship for about 300 damage.

also what is the "max speed limit" i know you dont wanna go zooming at 100m/s.

"3. If I were to add it to change the pack inside the boat yes and its been requested/done and handed to a small bit of people that asked for it or the model to it."

is this something at could be done for me?

I would just like to say to the community and to anyone who is viewing these post's.

Plox is a very respectful Coder who takes time to speak with you aside when he can, he also will get back to you in a very nice time frame.

give him a try.

Divi.nity 01/23/2016 21:02

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Originally Posted by Ploxasarus (Post 33807299)
Is this with the default base install or with the scripts running?

It's with the scripts installed. It happend just now as some features stopped working I started the game again and then bäm, Paket Error. Now I have to c&p the files again..

soullesswolf 01/23/2016 21:06

So you have to Copy it over every time?

whats you're PC info. do you run any MSI stuff?

maybe its a windows thing?

man hope you get that worked out if you do if you could please post details about the fix for others. that would save Plox alot of time trying to answer alot of the same stuff.

:P

Thanks

Divi.nity 01/24/2016 01:26

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Originally Posted by soullesswolf (Post 33808426)
So you have to Copy it over every time?

whats you're PC info. do you run any MSI stuff?

maybe its a windows thing?

man hope you get that worked out if you do if you could please post details about the fix for others. that would save Plox alot of time trying to answer alot of the same stuff.

:P

Thanks

Ye. I have to copy it over every time I get the Pakt Error message.
Runngin Win8.1 on a decent hardware. No MSI programms or hardware are installed atm.
I don't think that this is a windows specific problem because it worked fine last week. I know that there was no patch or something but I can't tell you what might cause the problem.
Tested some things like uninstall the mods and run the game without the launcher or derp but neither resolved the issue.

Let's wait untill we got 2.5 and Plox update derp and the mod. Maybe this will help.

Chansito 01/24/2016 19:05

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Originally Posted by Divi.nity (Post 33808401)
It's with the scripts installed. It happend just now as some features stopped working I started the game again and then bäm, Paket Error. Now I have to c&p the files again..

let me get this clear... u run 5 on launcher before the game start ? if u do this..

that's the problem.

soullesswolf 01/24/2016 19:31

what do you mean he ran 5?

Divi.nity 01/24/2016 19:37

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Originally Posted by Chansito (Post 33814791)
let me get this clear... u run 5 on launcher before the game start ? if u do this..

that's the problem.

I'm not stupid. So no, havn't done that.
What I meant was that I played with scripts installed BEFORE the error occoured.

I just saw that after I get this error AA generates a file called "MissingFilesRANDOM_NUMBER.log". I'll attach it to my post (had to zip it because it's more than 5MB).
As this happend a lot times I think it has something to do with the "instant exit" feature. But I'll test that after I c&p the current broken game_data.pak.

soullesswolf 01/24/2016 19:53

So it seems like we would be better off with a auto updater package program. otherwise you're just always c&p'ing updates every time the files change. it leaves room for less human error

but that takes time to frame one. so maybe not.

So you wipe'd the main game folder clean. took the saved files and copy them into the game host folder. so its now a fresh game install folder again.

then you take the Mod files and overwrite the clean files. inside the host game folder.

and you're still geting an error??

just asking to be very clear as to the steps not only for us but for anyone else who is reading.

Divi.nity 01/24/2016 21:13

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Originally Posted by soullesswolf (Post 33815173)
So it seems like we would be better off with a auto updater package program. otherwise you're just always c&p'ing updates every time the files change. it leaves room for less human error

but that takes time to frame one. so maybe not.

So you wipe'd the main game folder clean. took the saved files and copy them into the game host folder. so its now a fresh game install folder again.

then you take the Mod files and overwrite the clean files. inside the host game folder.

and you're still geting an error??

just asking to be very clear as to the steps not only for us but for anyone else who is reading.

First I copy the working file (fresh one) over the corrupted one, then I'm installing the mods and after that I start the game. I'll work for a some hours or a day but that's it.
I just logged in into my NA acc and the game gave me another "Paket Error !!" even after I copied the fresh one just 30min ago... . That's annoying as fuck.

Edit: It has nothing to do with the "exit" feature. At least it happend again without using it.

soullesswolf 01/25/2016 03:09

Try not just to keep copying over the files when it goes bad wipe the files. delte them. then copy over the clean files into the empty folder.

this may help. just give it a try.

then add the mod and overwrite the files.


let me know

Ploxasarus 01/25/2016 05:15

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First I copy the working file (fresh one) over the corrupted one, then I'm installing the mods and after that I start the game. I'll work for a some hours or a day but that's it.
I just logged in into my NA acc and the game gave me another "Paket Error !!" even after I copied the fresh one just 30min ago... . That's annoying as fuck.

Edit: It has nothing to do with the "exit" feature. At least it happend again without using it.
I've asked several people, they all came to the same conclusion. You are running 5, going into game, doing as such and ect - then leaving it on. I've tested this on my machine & vmware & other people for me. You need to run 5 getting into game, then 6 when you are done to put the original files back, or you will get the packet error as such.

I've been ripping apart the client in memory looking for that check, do believe I have found it but nothing for-sure at this time but can easily say that you need to run 6 an put the files back, if that is not helping the case then something has been changed somewhere that is slinging the error and I'm blind an can't seem to find it.

The mod itself will get a overhaul on 2.5, derp will be & is functioning as intended though since 2.5 will be a bit different on live as opposed to the PTS patch I'll still have to do a slight update newho. Nothing for derp is really going to be hurt, since all it is, is x2game.dll update + game_pak update and I only do 2 things in the x2game and the rest is somewhere else that I'm using my memory addresses.

iNiperx 01/26/2016 00:25

Just send me the mod for 2.5 if testing is needed, I'm not on the PTS.

soullesswolf 01/26/2016 01:34

:P

Ploxasarus 01/26/2016 07:53

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Originally Posted by iNiperx (Post 33823689)
Just send me the mod for 2.5 if testing is needed, I'm not on the PTS.

Will do, will mostly just be script updates I don't see much anything else different that needs an update, even the prefab is the same..

My statement of them having a PTS, though, when I've already found numerous bugs in the 2.5 that are going to just give a field day for people to exploit, and none of them get fixed at all prior to launch and they have no idea how to proper bug test shit.. I swear trion has got to be the most dumbest fucking company I have ever come across as a whole to let some of the shit that goes through patches happen, it just is beyond me.

Will need to warn people though since the hud an some other thing's are subject to change, including the loading screen which will already be 2.5 that I'll have to gut/re-arrange and redo a bit in the mod so don't expect like, an instant day or 2 update since I'll need to sort it all an test everything and that derp is much easier and straight forward then going through all of these files.

Just asking people to be patient while I get it all in order and avoid some of the install parts since it will and yes you have been warned, will break your game more then likely, did the same concept in 1.6/7>2.0 and now 2.5 and always got everything updated. Granted the readme falls behind but that is just because I suck at those :(

Imthejock 01/26/2016 12:37

hey im having a little bit of trouble with derp it keeps randomly closing but not giving any errors it closes ever 10 mins do you know what might be causing this issue

it works fine until it randomly closes

Divi.nity 01/26/2016 13:47

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Originally Posted by Ploxasarus (Post 33817563)
I've asked several people, they all came to the same conclusion. You are running 5, going into game, doing as such and ect - then leaving it on. I've tested this on my machine & vmware & other people for me. You need to run 5 getting into game, then 6 when you are done to put the original files back, or you will get the packet error as such.

I tried that the past few times and it seems to work. Damn stupid of me to forget about the 6.

@Ploxasarus
Does that mean, that we shouldn't use the mod/derp after your update will be live or does it just mean that we shouldn't wonder if some things will be broken?

@All
Can anyone tell me where the heck I can plant stuff in below the surface? Doesn't matter where I look there is just this cryengine water level below the surface where you obviously can't plant anything.

Ploxasarus 01/26/2016 19:19

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Originally Posted by Imthejock (Post 33825518)
hey im having a little bit of trouble with derp it keeps randomly closing but not giving any errors it closes ever 10 mins do you know what might be causing this issue

it works fine until it randomly closes


Because you are letting someone else use your login.



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I tried that the past few times and it seems to work. Damn stupid of me to forget about the 6.

@Ploxasarus
Does that mean, that we shouldn't use the mod/derp after your update will be live or does it just mean that we shouldn't wonder if some things will be broken?

@All
Can anyone tell me where the heck I can plant stuff in below the surface? Doesn't matter where I look there is just this cryengine water level below the surface where you obviously can't plant anything.
If all goes as planned, you will not need 6 if you are using derp but we will see.

Yes you should not use the mod unless you are going to check file differences after the patch which I intend on doing an clean look at everything to check and make sure and also remove what is needed an tidy up some things for the mod file wise.

Look in hasla, there is plenty of rocks you can use clipping with to plant in, but you do need clipping to stay on usually for most of them.

Imthejock 01/26/2016 22:52

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Originally Posted by Ploxasarus (Post 33828308)
Because you are letting someone else use your login.

no one else has my log in that i know of

Bidaloko 01/26/2016 23:54

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Originally Posted by Ploxasarus (Post 33828308)
...

Soo do we have a update for the mode? :)

Ploxasarus 01/27/2016 00:06

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Originally Posted by Imthejock (Post 33829958)
no one else has my log in that i know of

Then you're blocking it after or not giving it full access for connection.


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Soo do we have a update for the mode?
Sunkens and alot of other stuff is working as intended, it will take me most of the nite to dump the entire client an sort through all of this so please be patient with the mod since derp is much easier to handle since its just a simple update in memory since xl/trion are shit.

I'm being asked about the "state" of derp in 2.5, well - I just recorded this about 5 minutes ago [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click Here To Register...] , so I'll let you be the judge if derp will be fine or not in 2.5 ;)

soullesswolf 01/27/2016 00:57

Give the man some time :P

lolboostingva 01/27/2016 01:43

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Originally Posted by soullesswolf (Post 33830610)
Give the man some time :P

to be fair there hasnt been an update to the mod in almost 2 months. granted it hasnt been needed persay. xP

Ploxasarus 01/27/2016 01:56

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Originally Posted by lolboostingva (Post 33830735)
to be fair there hasnt been an update to the mod in almost 2 months. granted it hasnt been needed persay. xP

There has been, just in small pieces and probally not even in a manor people even noticed like some of the file changes, shader updates, ect ;)

Bout an hour when EU goes down I'll be uploading derp.

Bagzak 01/27/2016 02:20

Does derp download the latest version itself or do i need to download it again?

Chansito 01/27/2016 02:42

the link for the mod change ? or a new one i got error page.. =) i'll reinstal win and everithing but the link you give me plox looks like dont work for me :(

Divi.nity 01/27/2016 03:05

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Originally Posted by Ploxasarus (Post 33828308)
Look in hasla, there is plenty of rocks you can use clipping with to plant in, but you do need clipping to stay on usually for most of them.

Thank you for that. There are also some rocks in Golden Ruins but the thing is I would like to plant hunderts of trees and not 20 or 30. The spots behind the rocks are just too small to plant effeicient.
It's kinda pity that we can't plant stuff on the sea.

nightclaws 01/27/2016 08:39

well looks like the chest are worthless in way they soooo many hard get a good gold per hour out of do dam debuff timer... the sunken ships worth it but hard to find and way ya help with that Plox?

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Originally Posted by Ploxasarus View Post
Look in hasla, there is plenty of rocks you can use clipping with to plant in, but you do need clipping to stay on usually for most of them.
thanks thats helps found great area i place about 75 or so at time in another zone did not know that worked in that way any other tip i love know :P

castlerock2 01/27/2016 10:05

i have packet error :((( mod id down?

HellixUwasaki 01/27/2016 10:16

I can confirm perdita statues still spawn though, I got one today.

I also get packet error now though, nothing seems to fix it so going to have to try a re-install I think.

castlerock2 01/27/2016 10:20

How can I fix this error? (packet error!!!)
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nightclaws 01/27/2016 10:41

all errors be fixed 1s he get the mods working fully just wait takes time

NetSkay 01/27/2016 12:07

I picked up like 30 chests to collect 35 shards, got about 8 Enoan bags, 1 Delphinad pot and the shards gave me a Grand Terena Noble's Urn worth a staggering 42 silver. It seems that the old 110g and 1100g relics are still around, and with the new amount of chests, they should be easier to get overall. Just be sure to pack an alt on your boat, to get around the 1.5min timer.

ididnot 01/27/2016 15:38

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Originally Posted by NetSkay (Post 33832040)
I picked up like 30 chests to collect 35 shards, got about 8 Enoan bags, 1 Delphinad pot and the shards gave me a Grand Terena Noble's Urn worth a staggering 42 silver. It seems that the old 110g and 1100g relics are still around, and with the new amount of chests, they should be easier to get overall. Just be sure to pack an alt on your boat, to get around the 1.5min timer.

Wonder if the pots and statues still proc as they did on the old locations with no change on the loot table? Where as they just added new chests spawns that only drop the shards and bags. I know discussion on pts was that the Enoan bags dropped on new and old locations.

Just out of curiosity did you get the pot on a spawn with a single chest or where there multiple chests on that spot, which there seems a lot more of now?

The event chests can be somewhat profitable but can be a labor sink since you might get stolen bags and scratched safes.

tutyfer 01/27/2016 15:46

Hey Plox, i dont know if someone already asked this, but now in 2.5 there's a debuff when you get one chest, you cant get another on the next 2 minutes. Is there any way to go around this?

Ploxasarus 01/27/2016 16:04

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Originally Posted by tutyfer (Post 33833141)
Hey Plox, i dont know if someone already asked this, but now in 2.5 there's a debuff when you get one chest, you cant get another on the next 2 minutes. Is there any way to go around this?

No.

As for the rest of the questions involving the packet error - it is because the scripts have not been updated yet & I'm working on it. I updated derp first and set the game_pak to decompress over night and am not going through everything and should have something up sometime tonite.

The reason for the error, is different file compares in those or perhaps the base mod, which is easy to fix, but I need to see what is/isn't going to be in 2.5 if anything and re-order it all and this is quite a bit of files to go through so will have it done as soon as I can.

The sunken finder is working as intended, though, and plenty have just set that to utilize with derp and been gaining the chests regardless of the debuff ( just dragging an alt around ) and still profiting quite nicely off them.

castlerock2 01/27/2016 16:14

hi plox.
I can not enter the game (pack error!!!)
How can I delete mode
enter the game for
uninstal mode (2) not work

Gaara81 01/27/2016 16:15

I gonna miss the warehouse button until the mod is fixed...but i'm patient :P


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