holy shit man, what we're you doing in the 1 minute or less that you used speed hack? I've been using it all day with no problems... We're you seen or something? What server are you on?

The 10/26/2015 . Was that update for the derp only or was its also the mod too?

speed hack + pack carrying is not a good idea if that's what the case was. Keep in mind if you travel faster then 15 m/s and have a pack on your back and get to the turn in too fast you'll get banned.

I have send you an mp with the donation code

Whats the point of SH then if u cant use it for trade runs / sea packs? Meanwhile all those TP hackers are still around not getting banned..? Friend of mine using the SH got banned within 2hours. My alt account got banned too.
I mean if you cant use it to make gold it doesn't worth it.
Also I've noticed that most of those TP hackers / bot are just selling the gold. trino is just funny

cause you gotta donate seprately for it. Just did that myself cause he does amazing work :)

Well the thing about it is there's different types of hacks which aren't as detectable or different rules permissions of what the game client allows. So i'll explain since I used to use the teleport hack hags. You could increase speed to what ever you wanted or teleport from point A to point B but the issue is the game has a global time set on packs from the time they are crafted and picked up. Lets give this an example. Lets say that the rookborne to falcorth run can be completed with a car and it takes maybe 4 minutes? not sure i don't own a car myself but as soon as packs are crafted and moved from rookborne crafter the pack sets a timer on it if the pack gets turned in at a faster time then what a car can do the character who turned set pack in will be banned in two hours.

That also applies for teleporting packs i tested that one pretty well teleporting from rook to fredrich was possible for awhile but after the first security update they added timers to packs and any teleporting with packs got banned.

I know what your thinking I'm smoking crack because there's bots still teleporting right? well teleporting without a pack is safe not gonna get you banned. The ones which make packs from the crafter don't actually teleport from what ive seen they clip under the floor and then move at 1m/s really fast across the floor I don't have this type of hack or exploit to test the limits on it or figure out what they are doing. They could be placing the packs on land first and waiting a set amount of time before placing them.

I do know though that packs inside of a hauler for some reason don't get the same count down timer that a player has most likely works the same for ships too. But again I haven't been able to test that myself either ive seen people teleport haulers to fredrich or to cinder daily without getting banned so I don't know how they get away with that either. I haven't used hags in awhile because its so easy to get caught you lag alittle while speed hacking its ban slapped.

They also changed how the ban slap's work too when you get suspicious flagging you used to get slapped with killable to both factions but you could still be seen / killed by other players. But now they keep you in a seprate instance and waiting the 24h duration doesnt remove the buff and because you cant interact with players you cant wipe it by getting killed by guards afew times.

But if you have any questions about the above feel free to ask ^

yea i know i missed it lol, i cant be on forums everyday and the search function didnt show any results that explained how to. but thanks plox for explaining it, should put a small readme that has little tricks like this for any ppl that missed it or new ppl that come here.

So in theory... If I am making aged larders... If I pick them up and set them down after they've finished, wait about a day before I turn them in, I could SH them in because the packs will be way below the time threshold from when they initially finished? Or does this completely fall through the holes and once I put it on my back, a timer is added to the pack from where I'm at to where I might be taking it? I feel like aged larders are a little trickier to track because they can honestly be coming from anywhere. Even illegal places.

This is something you would have to test because its been awhile since ive done anything speed related. By test I mean with a different account don't risk your main. When I get my info for the new derp I'll do some tests for you guys too and see what I can figure out to help out.

Its pretty much same as sea chest packs, I dont craft them I pick them up / loot em.. still got banned twice

seems like when i teleport into a wall the mobs reset after a short time am i doing something wrong o.O?

Wait, you got banned twice using derp? Was it with SH?

You need an alt to dps so it does not reset or go immune.



New servers and sunkens, not derp.


As for the SH, I will reduce it but it will be probally thursday/friday. There is a mini-patch tonite and I'll need to maybe update for derp, which of course won't be a problem anymore since it will auto update for everyone else. But I'll reduce it down after they're small security update and also add a toggle for the speeds.

plox, you had water level mod. How about adjusting terrain height? Have you checked on this? I'm looking for this mod.

I have just buy the application and i would like used the treasure mod.
If i have understand well, when a chest is detected, i see a black bar?

I need to activated an option for see it?

Thanks

I have mod I wanna buy derp how I can contact wıth you ?

Hi guys,

same as iNiperx i found my account banned today.

Couple things i found from my observation:
1| I did moved couple packs w/ speed
2| I used Full clip while doing that
3| Account was used with this combo for cca 30mins yesterday
4| Ban was only on my alt account and, which was kinda suprising, it came after more than 18hours after i logged off, went to sleep and work
5| Packs were not crafted by this character and were older than 2 days
6| I passed 10mins flag while i was moving those packs

I do not reccomend using Speed while moving packs and kinda doubt it's safety even without them

Well lets compare my ban :

1| I did moved couple packs w/ speed
2| I used Full clip while doing that (check)
3| Account was used with this combo for cca 30mins yesterday
4| Ban was only on my alt account and, which was kinda suprising, it came after more than 18hours after i logged off, went to sleep and work ( Check)
5| Packs were not crafted by this character and were older than 2 days
6| I passed 10mins flag while i was moving those packs ( Check )


pls compare with this ones:

1| I was on freedish
2| water mod to deliver under the NPC (Gilda Stars )


Can you check if you were doing this last ones?

1| I was on freedish ( Check)
2| water mod to deliver under the NPC (Gilda Stars ) - packs were moved in stealth on ground to Resource trader

3| Character was higher than lvl 30

( Check)

Well you did like me :P but i've got unbanned

The problem must be on freedish NPCs

No, it is for all npcs.

I will reduce the speed or maybe remove it entirely, they've bumped alot of the security up in today and apparently it's become to get noticed immediately. Everything else seems rather safe, but I'll leave yall to decide in either reducing it or removing it to be safe.

It seems to only effect moving trade packs with SH on. I used it all day yesterday since release until I went to sleep without any ban. I found/moved two statues while using it in the water just fine. Please don't reduce the speed, if anything add a slider to reduce it from its original release speed if needed.

Then I will do so when I have time an people can toggle the threshold.


Did derp break on any parts of NA, by chance? If so then I will go to update it later when EU comes down.

NA's still down for a few more hours so no clue.

Say's to update, but updating still means offline?

Yup, play's still offline for a few hours. This is Trion we're talking about here ;p It went down at 7am PST for 5 hrs, its only 10:22am PST. I actually just poped a few narcos, a xanax and plan on passing out for a few more hours myself. Might play some more Tales of Zestiria when I get up too, security updates scare me rofl...

Yea it usually lets you update and hour or two before the update is actually done, so we get the greyed out offline button. Not sure if they do the same thing to Euro servers.

I'm on NA used SH to run a few packs last night to freed about 6 packs totals have yet to get any emails...

I only used SH and water mod nothing else. It works well alone the speed while swimming is good I however did not use sprint for most of the way. I also used sub a few of the trips for testing.

I was basically sprinting with pirate title+best flippers /w swim speed enchant since it was released, opened a good amount of chests, never used it on land, used it with sprinting in the water when I found statues, still no emails/ban.

Does the SH work with a sub, by the way? It's classified as a mount so it should but if it actually doesn't then it would not be under the same rules as a mount and them saying that would be wrong cause of how the SH works in physics and effects the aspects of walk/run/glide/mount.


Am aware of how long trion takes, but I cannot update my client while doing memory dumps as I'am now incase I need to update.


I will say though to be careful with the security updates, use alt accounts, be aware that trion is trying to step they're game up and the SH is very risky for what it is. It only seem's that the SH is the biggest of the problem in terms of anything, but seems to remain undetected on alot of other parts and revolves around small parts of how the game handles the player and what they do.


Again, just let me know if anything breaks in derp so I may quickly update it when EU goes down tonite then work on the toggle for speed.

It works with a sub no problem like the mount on land when I tested its fast but it does not seem as fast as normal sprinting. Could this be due to the sub only going at 5.5m/s regularly. Or with a pack at 3.5m/s?

Yes, subs just plain suck. I swim faster then a sub with and without a pack. The SH takes your base speed and amplifies it, so if your speed on a sub is slower then your normal swim speed then a sub will go slower with SH, and then dashing with SH should be WAY faster. This is all speculation on my part though about how SH works, ima go pass out now lol, bb in a few hrs.

Yes, I'm basically amplifying the characters physics which also adheres to parts of the mount system because how an mount is bound to a player in memory.

The boat's will not gain the same properties because as you can tell, when you die and your boat is out, it does not despawn as how a mount does and is not bound to your character in the same aspects. A pet/mount however, is.

Also to the person asking about map height, I'm looking into this now as we speak even, it seems adjusting it is a bit... Buggy, cause the npcs and player models and how you adjust it and your client handles it. I guess it would be useful to get a hauler up into the air, but I'm trying to replicate what the RU's do for that instead and just make it fly across as it seems there is nothing that is being seen/detected with that on there platform an I doubt trion has better mechanics to do so.

Odd how random it is. Used the SH for more than a minute getting from the coast to some specific spot in the western sea, did not take any packs on my back and have not experienced any sort of action against my account. I think with the increasing amount of people reporting bans SH should be reduced to a specific maximum, maybe 15m/s?

I can't find it :( Could you or someone tell me how to do runs in serp with derp or something else ?
Or point me where to look please, i'm not good at seaching it seems. :handsdown: :(

used the SH + full clip yesterday to move packs from sanddep to gweonid and still no emails/bans. ( i wasnt delivering under the land)

Forgive this REALLY dumb question, but how do you use SH? I have it checked but I am moving at same rate.

Is it NA? The patch may of changed some things.

If not, try setting it as admin.

Confirmed on NA. SH not working.

It is NA and it is set to admin.