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Samekuro 10/19/2015 22:44

Donated and waiting for a reply from messages & skype.

tyrannicalteabagger 10/19/2015 23:22

Before I say it, I do appreciate the effort you've put into this mod, but I am concerned about how far this is going, it started as more of a convenience mod, and now with the clipping and speed hack its definitely over the line for me personally. I'm not here to order you to stop because that's not my place nor even close to within my power, but I'm just concerned that I'm going to lose my convenience mods because I just foresee Trion/XL moving this up on their "problem priority list" with these more "game breaking" mods.

Or maybe Im just looking for a more technical breakdown as to how some of this new stuff isn't immediately detectable? IDK

And I'll leave with an Uncle Ben quote "With great power comes great responsibility."

Thanks for reading.

iNiperx 10/19/2015 23:32

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Originally Posted by tyrannicalteabagger (Post 33179566)
Before I say it, I do appreciate the effort you've put into this mod, but I am concerned about how far this is going, it started as more of a convenience mod, and now with the clipping and speed hack its definitely over the line for me personally. I'm not here to order you to stop because that's not my place nor even close to within my power, but I'm just concerned that I'm going to lose my convenience mods because I just foresee Trion/XL moving this up on their "problem priority list" with these more "game breaking" mods.

Or maybe Im just looking for a more technical breakdown as to how some of this new stuff isn't immediately detectable? IDK

And I'll leave with an Uncle Ben quote "With great power comes great responsibility."

Thanks for reading.

The difference is that the mod is still a convenience thing, everything you mentioned is not the mod, it's the Derp program which is a side project and it's not really part of the mod in any way, and it's still an optional thing to use, you don't have to use it.

You'll still have your convenience mod pack without any risks just as it is right now.

Kranell 10/20/2015 00:00

I added u, in Skype and sent a PM here :)

Ploxasarus 10/20/2015 02:08

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Sometimes it bugs. A fix would be going to character screen and back into the game, that works for me when there actually are chests (sometimes all chests are just taken)
It actually bugs cause of cryengine, even if you don't modify the client - stated this a few posts pack about it and not much I can do but look into the rendering part of it and see what maybe could be changed.



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Does the OBJECTS filter in derp affect the treasure chests?

like how far can you notice em from, and is there a way to render them from even further?
No, its changed seperately in the xml file.





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This is actually quite amazing. I would hope this does not get fixed in a manner of speaking. You addressed correcting the problem in your original comment , by disabling "Clip Cam". Which you can do on the fly, when you know your going to use Teleportation. Just toggle the Cam.
Not sure how I would split it, I've also been told in private it effects things in a weird way on a hauler aswell. Not entirely sure how messing with camera eye in memory has anything to do with some of the things it is producing and I need to look into this further, though I did find a fix for it - it still interests me how far this rabbit hole goes.




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Donated and waiting for a reply from messages & skype.
Believe I got to you, did I not?




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Before I say it, I do appreciate the effort you've put into this mod, but I am concerned about how far this is going, it started as more of a convenience mod, and now with the clipping and speed hack its definitely over the line for me personally. I'm not here to order you to stop because that's not my place nor even close to within my power, but I'm just concerned that I'm going to lose my convenience mods because I just foresee Trion/XL moving this up on their "problem priority list" with these more "game breaking" mods.

Or maybe Im just looking for a more technical breakdown as to how some of this new stuff isn't immediately detectable? IDK

And I'll leave with an Uncle Ben quote "With great power comes great responsibility."
It will go wherever the sky is the limit. This goes into the region with derp of memory hacking, where-as the mod itself is just file modifications and not memory editing to the extend that derp does. If they did even prioritize anything, it would only effect just what derp does - which is why I offer no lifetime on derp but do and have tested the mod throughout regions beside na/eu and see its lifetime to be quite foreseeable in the future despite what they would do to stop derp.

If they move it up on priority list, it will not effect your conveniences as its completely different as to what derp does to what the mod itself does and how they would tackle each of them individually.

As for detection, there of course is some who have had a suspected user debuff from people reporting, which was removed quite quickly through support & ignorantly at that and for the abuse that has already been unleash by the 12ish individuals that I'm allowing to test, I'd say they have probally the worst detection in the history of a game considering how much I've been abusing privately lately and technically my vpn account should of already been banned now, but has not and nor has any of the ones breaking the physics memory aspect of this game testing things for me.

I know alot of people are opposed to what I intend to release, through the PM's and emails I have been getting in relation to the game breaking nature of it, but I leave you with my own quote in response to it:

"Introduce a little anarchy, upset the established order, everything becomes chaos - I'am an agent of chaos. Oh and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair. - The joker"

Please forgive a delay, they're will be an update to the portal mod and something with derp soon, but I need to sort out the feedback given on some testing privately and some things I need to look into with the clip cam that makes for an interesting dig.

iNiperx 10/20/2015 02:34

That quote tho lol

I know how shady people can be, You're giving us the mod + a side project of yours, but I think when you release the speed hack and such I think the shady people will come along just to get that hack with such low price and get the mod as a plus to them.

Instead of that, after you release such hacks in the future give new users a different link to the mod and what not and sell Derp separately, you should profit yourself for your work.

I mean some of us bought this mod even before Derp was a thing it was for convenience and to support your work man, I just feel like people will wait for hacks to buy the mod, and everything you're offering I'm sure is worth more than just $5.

Can't wait for the login system on Derp too, so only people who actually bought it can use it and not everyone that were given a link to use it for free, just make sure to have a HWID limit system that resets every 24/h, this way you can set it to like 1 or 2 computers per account or everyone is going to share accounts and it would be the same as giving them a link lol.

ellisdee 10/20/2015 04:32

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Can't wait for the login system on Derp too, so only people who actually bought it can use it and not everyone that were given a link to use it for free, just make sure to have a HWID limit system that resets every 24/h, this way you can set it to like 1 or 2 computers per account or everyone is going to share accounts and it would be the same as giving them a link lol.
Sounds like a good way to ruin it for those who use it, and whom created it.

iNiperx 10/20/2015 05:17

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Originally Posted by ellisdee (Post 33180595)
Sounds like a good way to ruin it for those who use it, and whom created it.

How so?
If you bought the mod/derp you shouldn't worry at all it won't change a thing how you use it or when you use it, now if you're one of those people who got the link from a friend or you gave it to a few friends than too bad, that just makes you a shit head, you're basically trashing someone else's hard work.


Anyways Plox said this a couple of pages ago:

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Originally Posted by Ploxasarus (Post 33163434)
The scripts have been leaked all over the RU and I'm sure people pass it out to others that didn't attribute but that is fine cause in time when everything is complete it will be the same as the ESP for gw2 an be purely a login system with everything the packer/scripts/memory does in 1 little bundle but that is a stretch from now and it doesn't matter and is thus the reason there is no pattern scanning in derp right now - so even if people do give it around or post it, its broken after a patch and not functioning anymore. I also keep alot of the private things either to myself or small group of trusted and some things will be released in a later version more secured or never see the light of day. People want to be stupid an post it, it just means they are shitting on someone who took the time/effort an want to be some kind of 'hero' to the people and just in the end make it more of an annoyance and me to spend less time on it or release less, owell.

All I said is I can't wait for it to be like that already ;)

ellisdee 10/20/2015 06:30

fair enough

ParadoxReality 10/20/2015 07:16

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Originally Posted by ellisdee (Post 33179096)
This is actually quite amazing. I would hope this does not get fixed in a manner of speaking. You addressed correcting the problem in your original comment , by disabling "Clip Cam". Which you can do on the fly, when you know your going to use Teleportation. Just toggle the Cam.

On the upside of this, you can pass into the geometries of the game.Such as a mountain side or a dungeon wall. Want to keep from falling. use the water bender option to keep you level and swim to the other side.

I see this not as a bug, but a fantastic new trick to be explored:handsdown:. However be SMART about it. Dont let ppl see you doing this. Make SURE if you do it in a dungeon, turn off water bending or slide to null, or you will come out of the portal and start floating.

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So if I'm in the middle of pvping, and I need to run away, I need to click over to Derp, toggle off the Clip-cam, wait for the second or 2 it takes to unload it, then use teleport, then turn it back on? I'm sorry but it's ridiculous if you think that's beneficial in anyway.

seakeep 10/20/2015 07:50

Awesome to see how far you've come with all this Plox. I donated in the beginning for the mod but having just checked back and seen all the new features you've added in the past month or so shows real dedication. keep it up man, You are miles ahead of Trion.

arrowface 10/20/2015 08:36

Hey Plox,

I hope this doesn't sound weird, but I was curious about you as a person. What's your background? What do you do for a living? Do you have a github? I'm a student myself studying comp sci and making programs that piggyback games has always been an interest of mine.

selfservice0 10/20/2015 08:56

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Originally Posted by arrowface (Post 33180930)
Hey Plox,

I hope this doesn't sound weird, but I was curious about you as a person. What's your background? What do you do for a living? Do you have a github? I'm a student myself studying comp sci and making programs that piggyback games has always been an interest of mine.

I was wondering the same thing Plox.

What knowledge set you up to be able to make such a great mod? Where did you start?

rebornp 10/20/2015 10:03

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Originally Posted by ParadoxReality (Post 33173717)
I sent you a PM, although I'm not sure it actually went through as I can see any messages listed in my Sent Messages section of my inbox. Let me know if it didn't go through. I might have to email you or something instead.

The same as Paradox :rolleyes:

iNiperx 10/20/2015 13:02

Can we get a new feature for the mod?
You know you can shift use an item to auto use it, can we get the same function but for the Clipper Dash skill?

I'd like to be alt-tab while it auto uses it every 17 seconds lol

elpjr 10/20/2015 13:06

after last update i got DC b4 log into game, any sugestions?

BladeMasterXi 10/20/2015 13:44

I feel like there needs to be an FAQ section in the OP so that people aren't asking the same thing over and over again throughout the posts (I can tell we're not working with the brightest of bulbs here). I'll see what I can whip up today for you plox regarding troubleshooting the mod and fixes people can do.

elpjr 10/20/2015 13:58

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Originally Posted by Xi.Cynx (Post 33182244)
I feel like there needs to be an FAQ section in the OP so that people aren't asking the same thing over and over again throughout the posts (I can tell we're not working with the brightest of bulbs here). I'll see what I can whip up today for you plox regarding troubleshooting the mod and fixes people can do.

yeah, a FAQ sounds good, but well how to fix it?

pristit 10/20/2015 17:47

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Originally Posted by elpjr (Post 33182344)
yeah, a FAQ sounds good, but well how to fix it?

I'm not having any issues? the mod was updated at 17/10/15 did you update it?

Saltyteemoo 10/20/2015 19:13

Looking forward to the SH, I just saw the video. just brilliant..
Oh and another thing, will it be a separate purchase for it or it will be on Derp?

pristit 10/20/2015 20:24

Btw Plox, I've seen on the example video that you were "swimming" up a mountain, mind telling me how you've done that? in derp the option to change water is grayed out(cant touch slider)..

can you please explain?

lamppost 10/20/2015 20:54

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Originally Posted by pristit (Post 33185603)
Btw Plox, I've seen on the example video that you were "swimming" up a mountain, mind telling me how you've done that? in derp the option to change water is grayed out(cant touch slider)..

can you please explain?

Click the text that says "water" and you'll be able to move the slider. If you want to reset the water to its original level, you can click the "water" text again and it will immediately drop back down to the default value.

pristit 10/20/2015 23:29

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Originally Posted by lamppost (Post 33185821)
Click the text that says "water" and you'll be able to move the slider. If you want to reset the water to its original level, you can click the "water" text again and it will immediately drop back down to the default value.

thats how he was swimming out of nowhere? thanks alot man!

ellisdee 10/20/2015 23:51

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This is actually quite amazing. I would hope this does not get fixed in a manner of speaking. You addressed correcting the problem in your original comment , by disabling "Clip Cam". Which you can do on the fly, when you know your going to use Teleportation. Just toggle the Cam.

On the upside of this, you can pass into the geometries of the game.Such as a mountain side or a dungeon wall. Want to keep from falling. use the water bender option to keep you level and swim to the other side.

I see this not as a bug, but a fantastic new trick to be explored. However be SMART about it. Dont let ppl see you doing this. Make SURE if you do it in a dungeon, turn off water bending or slide to null, or you will come out of the portal and start floating.

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So if I'm in the middle of pvping, and I need to run away, I need to click over to Derp, toggle off the Clip-cam, wait for the second or 2 it takes to unload it, then use teleport, then turn it back on? I'm sorry but it's ridiculous if you think that's beneficial in anyway.
You're Right. That's not a tangible fix or option for that scenario. Sorry, I must have read over where you mentioned how you were using it. And to be fair, not really convenient to toggle around anyway or any other scenario.

What i wanted to note is how else this can be used to some ones advantage. combat aside. Hidden pack runs, moving to any and every room in Serpentis regardless of the portal.

pepe741 10/21/2015 00:13

Water isn't working for me. It is only me?

iNiperx 10/21/2015 00:23

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Originally Posted by pepe741 (Post 33187218)
Water isn't working for me. It is only me?

Run Derp as admin and click the text that says "water" to enable it, then put the water higher and you'll be swimming like a fish in the sky because logic (;

pepe741 10/21/2015 00:34

I know how it works, but it isn't working for me... If someone could test it, I would be grateful.

iNiperx 10/21/2015 00:42

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Originally Posted by pepe741 (Post 33187340)
I know how it works, but it isn't working for me... If someone could test it, I would be grateful.

Did the game updated today? Because I used it just fine last night, and that doesn't break by itself unless the game updates.

jfour 10/21/2015 01:03

yeah game updated, give plox a chance to update it before posting about things that don't work

Saltyteemoo 10/21/2015 02:00

Cant pick up chests that are over world border right?

Ploxasarus 10/21/2015 02:02

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So if I'm in the middle of pvping, and I need to run away, I need to click over to Derp, toggle off the Clip-cam, wait for the second or 2 it takes to unload it, then use teleport, then turn it back on? I'm sorry but it's ridiculous if you think that's beneficial in anyway.
It isn't beneficial and I will provide a solution to it also figuring out somehow to make the other part usable aswell.




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I hope this doesn't sound weird, but I was curious about you as a person. What's your background? What do you do for a living? Do you have a github? I'm a student myself studying comp sci and making programs that piggyback games has always been an interest of mine.
I've a bachelor's degree in computer science and I've been reverse engineering on games since the days of Diablo and using a hex editor. I do this for hobby, fun, sport, challenge. I did not take the time with hackshield on the client prior cause well, frankly, no goddamn games use that piece of shit and me to waste any time on it would not benefit me anywhere else in any other games. I prefer indie games for fun and don't really like shooters though I do have some I really rather enjoy a good MMORPG or RPG, I socialize like a retard and hardly ever take anything seriously. My real life work consists of everything to do with computers and programming and the majority of my friends who know me, know me to be quite the out spoken kind of guy and balls deep in crazy shit all the time or when I'm not at work to be sipping coffee listening to some music an smoking down wondering how I actually can do anything in ASM as high as usually I get not realizing there is no such thing as 'high' but only 'higher'. I'm not perfect, I make mistakes in code or there is someone who may do it better or else wise.

I did not create everything that is in the mod but have maintained/improved/added to it over time and a vast majority turned into my own thinking pad. I even myself got a tickle out of the mailbox/warehouse and someone thinking that I didn't already solve the solution myself on how it was done. I don't like to work with others in coding and usually prefer to do so alone but do appreciate people who test and are capable of giving me important feedback/crash logs/ect and are respectful in not sharing things openly.

Game's I have done things on are: Starcraft / Diablo / Diablo II / Maplestory/ Shaiya / Guild Wars 2 / Archeage / BDO

Bout sum's up plox in a nutshell.



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I feel like there needs to be an FAQ section in the OP so that people aren't asking the same thing over and over again throughout the posts (I can tell we're not working with the brightest of bulbs here). I'll see what I can whip up today for you plox regarding troubleshooting the mod and fixes people can do.
Thank you so much, I appreciate your help always :)



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Looking forward to the SH, I just saw the video. just brilliant..
Oh and another thing, will it be a separate purchase for it or it will be on Derp?
Derp comes with the mod, but in a later statement in this post there will be some significant changes in derp I will mention which is why nothing is released right now.




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yeah game updated, give plox a chance to update it before posting about things that don't work
Is there an issue with it on NA? I don't seem to see anything with a patch.. Can somebody please test on NA and let me know?



As for derp, derp is going to get an overhaul on thursday ( only day I can sit down and code entirely all day ) which I will rebuild it from ground > up instead of trying to wrap around it the login system I'm adding to prevent leeching. No I'am not adding a HWID or any of that shit to it, it will be a simple login system and yes it will connect to my database but I'm storing no information and it will be the same setup as the ESP with gw2 and yes you will need to when it is done to request information from me in regards to using it but it will automatically update itself when needed an be much more easier to maintain over time in conjunction with the mod.


Edit: I have checked NA, derp is working as intended - no files where changed. They only enabled the event that was broken aswell as did something server-ended for security but I don't see anything as of now to worry about.

ellisdee 10/21/2015 02:29

NA , seems to be working fine atm. fresh log-in.

jfour 10/21/2015 06:17

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Originally Posted by Saltyteemoo (Post 33187725)
Cant pick up chests that are over world border right?

yeah you get ported out, be careful with chests anyway don't make it too obvious

mitsukihayase 10/21/2015 08:12

plox i want to donate but my elitepvpers account cant send a message to your profile. also, i added you on skype. First name starts with O, last name ends with T.

z147896321 10/21/2015 09:56

Will definitely donate again when this login function is implemented. I have gut feels this one's being distributed somewhere out there, taking all the credit and whatnot.

Cheers and bump for this mate!

Oshijitsu 10/21/2015 10:18

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Originally Posted by z147896321 (Post 33188641)
Will definitely donate again when this login function is implemented. I have gut feels this one's being distributed somewhere out there, taking all the credit and whatnot.

Cheers and bump for this mate!

Same for me . =)

darkavishay 10/21/2015 13:55

Plox, I donated to you a few days ago now, and I PM'd you. I also sent you images over skype about the donations.
If you missed my first post, that's cool, but it'd be great if you replied now.

Ploxasarus 10/21/2015 15:52

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Originally Posted by mitsukihayase (Post 33188339)
plox i want to donate but my elitepvpers account cant send a message to your profile. also, i added you on skype. First name starts with O, last name ends with T.

You sent me several messages, which is fine cause I know epvp sometimes likes to be crap and not always work, I responded to them accordingly.



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Will definitely donate again when this login function is implemented. I have gut feels this one's being distributed somewhere out there, taking all the credit and whatnot.
Well that is why the delay of the speed/climb has been set until then, to avoid the open abuse of it. I can say that the speed itself will be a at your own risk aspect of it cause it is highly noticeable and only tested on a small player platform so I cannot guarntee the risk of using it on an main account. The climb however is working nice it seems and I've adjusted the camera clipping to work as intended ( I hope ) and ontop of that something that may be of use with clipping but in a non-rendering aspect but it is still being worked on and the big step is tomorrow to drop a login then wrap the current derp around it and add the speed into it an let people go from there with requesting a login from me before accessing it and then, implementing even more an building the other parts of the mod around that.

I did say I would get to something bigger as a whole, eventually, now I've quite alot of time to invest coding on it here/there ;)




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Plox, I donated to you a few days ago now, and I PM'd you. I also sent you images over skype about the donations.
If you missed my first post, that's cool, but it'd be great if you replied now.
Did I not get this? I do believe I did see your name in a response but if I'm mistaken please resend and my sincere apologies.

mastrb8 10/21/2015 18:59

hey plox i know someone mentioned it before but was there a way you could add an auto accept for the mobilization orders?

rebornp 10/21/2015 19:08

I'm maybe the noob one, but, strange thing is, when i use the launcher in administrator, all commands doesn't work (well, seems to work instantly, but no mod works) and when i use the launcher normaly it takes 1min for Option 1 etc. And mods work. Which kind of code can refuse to be executed if you have all privileges and accepte if not xD

Edit : Btw, it's really a great job ! Correct me if i'm wrong but the game client is still clean after Option 2/4/6 normally ? Do you think i can launch more than one client at a time ?


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