[ask] farming hh using multiclient

[Smurfin]

please anyone tell which hh/bosses can you possibly managed to farm alone using one pc, what chars [job n level] do you use for that ?

and how about belial, is it possible to defeat him using multi chars on one pc ? hope it's doable coz its gold mat [soul of ancient devil] costs a fortune >.<

please share your experience on farming hh using your multi chars controlled by yourself, which is doable and which is impossible, refer to for complete list of hh mats and modes.

tks in advance.

[fusioncal]

Originally Posted by Smurfin

please anyone tell which hh/bosses can you possibly managed to farm alone using one pc, what chars [job n level] do you use for that ?

and how about belial, is it possible to defeat him using multi chars on one pc ? hope it's doable coz its gold mat [soul of ancient devil] costs a fortune >.<

please share your experience on farming hh using your multi chars controlled by yourself, which is doable and which is impossible, refer to for complete list of hh mats and modes.

tks in advance.

I may not be a help much, but I do HH every now and then finding mats for my HH90 EQ. As far as I know we usually pick the team based on which HH we go to. For instance, HH 2-2 usually requires 2 Werefoxes (back to back banish & injure), 2 Priests, 1 Beast, and the last slot is open to any job (or Archer). Even with a team like that, dying still happen. HH requires the synchronization of a team and most of all the experience of doing HH, especially the tanker. HH will mostly fail if the tanker is a newb or when all the priests die.

If you'd like to solo (meaning 4 of you) HH with your current level (87), I'd say HH 1-1 and 1-2. I'm not so sure about HH 1-3.

[Smurfin]

that sounds about right, btw there is a talk in pw my en official forum about hercule's tanking limitation which is not so bad, it gives me the thought if it's doable with hercule alone tanking then maybe i could do it too with my chars setup, sure there are some limitations of which bosses n modes are doable compared if going in with full team controlled by real players but even with hercule and wf alone the results of which hh can be soloed by them are quite impressive.

HH

1-1 all
1-2 all
1-3 all
2-1 >> maybe asura and hes the only one
2-2 >>> monkey boss after buffs could hurt a lot. mine was 85 lev and died, altho i lag very often and that was due lag
2-3 ouch
3-1 80+ wf no prob < ofcourse time boss undoable>
rest i dont know but i presume that >>>
3-2 at 90
3-3 95+

*personal comment* sometimes spike dmg when it gets in the upper limits of dmg range could kill herc tho. happens sometimes.

FB

19,29,39,49,59,79,89

69 debuffing boss undoable. maybe at 90+ when he has a lot of hp and 2 wfs. dunno


WORLD
other bosses are doable <except darkeye and gules before 90 and 2 WFs>
i included new culti bosses and such.

thats my opinion based on experience

in other post there someone confirmed 1-1 to 1-3 team mode is 'possible'

one of useful posts there :

Herc 93 / got 18% cast

Not soloable in world (and on land ofc)
- Darkeye
- Stiltherin vipent lord (for those not using mp hieros)
- Hariti (duhhh)

not soloable in HH (team mode)
- 1-3 Fetch can be tanked, mostly its the WF that will die from AOE before hercules himself
- Asura (2-1) real pain in the ass (24% or more cast and lvl 10 heal then is easier) as for 2-2 and 2-3 ... i seen how hard its in 2-1 aint tested in those
- 2-3 Ape might need better cast time or a second WF
- 3-1 timed boss
- 3-2/3-3 no idea

so far I've only tried to do hh 1-1 and 2-1 team mode medium boss without tmm and without any hieros/amulets when my chars were all lv83 without refined armors at all,only stones. Hh 1-1 is easy but there's a boss in 2-1 which i think is impossible to do alone with one priest or maybe almost impossible to one-man-army there, the one with fake boss, forgot the name, maybe that's asura from the quote above.

i plan to try 'solo'-ing hh with multi chars later when my chars reached 90, all will take heaven path, currently making another priest until lv 66 or 70 for better armor, should have maxed all support skills to take care my other 3 chars so my main priest will be available to single nursing whoever tanks, mainly beast but i heard archer can tank too, which i'm not so sure about. I'll refine armors to +3 to +5 to boost hp.

since it's taboo to discuss multiclienting in official forum so i brought this kind of topic here just in case someone experienced in doing hh can give advices, solo or team with real players are alright since i haven't been doing hh alot yet.

[cheatftw]

3-2 can go after 95+. and there no point to go before lvl95 - better rush lvl.
3-3 go at lvl100. and can dual id only if edi all you chars you dual are lvl100 and 99set. till the dualing will be hard even if use hacks.

[Smurfin]

i see, i'll skip hh 3-x part and focus on hh 1-x and 2-x later then, because i'm still rushing to 90 atm, it really takes forever ~_~

how about belial, is it really doable with an archer having around 8k hp tanking it and only one ep to heal the archer ? and is it possible to dual client for that ?

[fusioncal]

Originally Posted by Smurfin

there's a boss in 2-1 which i think is impossible to do alone with one priest or maybe almost impossible to one-man-army there, the one with fake boss, forgot the name, maybe that's asura from the quote above.

It's Shenwu General and he runs toward you...very fast. Shenwu in HH 2-1 doesn't do much damage. HH 2-2, he does medium damage. Now HH 2-3 he definitely is (very very) serious. My Werefox equipped with full HH sets and around 4.5k (buffed) HP dies from one hit from luring him to a Beast. Did I mention Shenwu runs very fast? The first hit will always go to Werefox. I died 3 times from 3 times luring the last time I went into HH 2-3. I was Lv.87.

Belial? Don't even think about soloing, seriously.

[Smurfin]

i don't really know which hh i go sometimes, yea maybe thats the one, even my bs died in 2 hits with the first hit only left him around 5%hp, then i tried tanking it with my wf since it's fire elemental, but no luck, one hit and my wf also died, never come back hh until now lol and always buy the mats.

i think i'll just team up random to explore hh first and learn how ppl deal with every hh mode.

btw how ppl usually distribute the drops for the party ?

[fusioncal]

Originally Posted by Smurfin

i don't really know which hh i go sometimes, yea maybe thats the one, even my bs died in 2 hits with the first hit only left him around 5%hp, then i tried tanking it with my wf since it's fire elemental, but no luck, one hit and my wf also died, never come back hh until now lol and always buy the mats.

i think i'll just team up random to explore hh first and learn how ppl deal with every hh mode.

btw how ppl usually distribute the drops for the party ?

Joining a team is a good idea. However, do team up with your friends or with people you know you can trust. Otherwise, worst scenario is that the looter (the one who is assigned to pick up every drops) could just run away with the goods and then log off. It does happen believe it or not.

There are two ways to distribute. First is sharing every loots square and fair right after HH sessions are done. The problem is that with various of mats, there's no "really" square and fair shares. One boss might drop more and others might drop less. On one case you might just get lucky getting one HH gold drop and there's no way to distribute it.

When that happens the team usually comes up with plan B, which is selling it. Or if the team wants to, they could just skip the sharing part and sell the mats altogether. One (trusted) member is appointed to sell them. Hopefully they'll get sold within a few days. Again, if you're not familiar with that member there's a chance you won't get your payment. If everything goes the right way the rest of team members get their payment sent to their letter box. Personally, I prefer the first option.

Oh one thing I forgot to mention is that priests get more portion of the shares. Why? Because priests need to be equipped with hieros on certain bosses. Some bosses do so much AOE damage to the party that one priest needs to set up blue ball mode and the other to keep healing the tanker. This also clarifies why you need 2 priests on HH.

Hope this helps.

[Smurfin]

yea i prefer the first option you mentioned above, there is also random but i guess ppl hardly want it that way. Plan B is not bad either coz it's the only way in that case.

[faithfuly]

In my experience (sorry for my poor english)
I had form my team with myself by create 4 char = 2EP 1WB 1WF (alway lving + quest together) for 6-7 month ago.
now my char is 90+ .
I started to farm HH team mode with 4 char 4 client one pc when my char lv 60.
That possible to farming HH 1-1 mat by myself.
My step :
2 Ep use combo of 2 skill (Whisht Heart Spell + Sapience Pour (MY-EN)) + fury burst for restore mana point.
1 WF disable skill of golem. use only normal atk when facing boss. and use normal combo of WF .
1 WB tank in white tiger form , use only Ripping bite + normal atk combo.

in that step, unnecessary to take control anymore.
Tip: WF'pet has very important , when facing boss lv[?] WF'pet hasn't got damage reduction. With WF'pet we can take down the boss faster
Tip: My EP use armor set with mana recovery optional. this optional easy to save mana point when facing boss.

in HH 1-2,1-3 a bit different 1 EP must use "Extremity recovery array" when facing AOE boss (Drum + Popple) . WF'combo include heal pet. WB must interrupt boss skill with "Raging Pounce".

in HH 2-1, Asura so difficult to defeat.If WB missing interrupt skill. it means die. WB must be use 33% magic reduce charm.

in HH 2-2 facing seven shine 2EP+1WF stand on chain as far as posible from WB. When other mini boss of 7Shine born don't do anything 2EP just heal and heal WB only. the mini boss will aggro on EP but it can't atk EP.
Important: WB must have extremely armor in your lv.

in HH 2-3 facing baliel WB must very extreme armor of 90+ . 4 char is not enough. You must have one more interrupter skill (WB or WR). When beliel turn into EP/WF , EP/WF use fury burst (invincible 1-3 sec on lv skill) , EP/WF use 33%-80% physical damage reduce ,EP plume barrier WF Bramble Array
but only one player play on 4 char WB must interrupt skill is the best way for save party

in HH 3-1 if you can faced beliel HH 3-1 too easy for you

in HH 3-2-3 no experience

[Smurfin]

nice, that's quite a lot of info, about 2-2 you described above, what do you mean by 'mini boss will aggro on ep but it can't atk ep' , by using flyhack ?

can you defeat belial with your chars setup and controlling the chars by yourself ? nice, can't imagine how tense the situation will be, but should be rewarding if belial did drop his gold hh mat ^^)

btw how do we know the timing for when to interrupt/cancel a boss skill, is there any sign before a boss will cast skill ?

[BetaBowElfe]

yep they will say something in chat then u can use your werebeast skill the cancel it but 2-2 it is hard and cost u 2-3 tmp for each round but hunting for books in other cave is more easier and free.

[faithfuly]

Originally Posted by Smurfin

nice, that's quite a lot of info, about 2-2 you described above, what do you mean by 'mini boss will aggro on ep but it can't atk ep' , by using flyhack ?

can you defeat belial with your chars setup and controlling the chars by yourself ? nice, can't imagine how tense the situation will be, but should be rewarding if belial did drop his gold hh mat ^^)

btw how do we know the timing for when to interrupt/cancel a boss skill, is there any sign before a boss will cast skill ?

in HH 2-2 not fly hack. I mean 7Shine boss is on center stage. the center stage was hung by about 6-7 chain around stage.
You can stand on the chain. Stand on the chain as far as u can heal WB (7Shine must near side of chain you was standing). When 7Shine miniboss born. It aggro to WB, but WB doesn't atk that miniboss then aggro will change to EP who's heal WB. Now the miniboss run toward EP but can't atk EP because EP stand far from atk range of all miniboss (stand on chain). It will lose of aggro on EP. It return to first stage (born point) and aggro with WB again <<< that a circle.

in HH 2-3 my chars setup is 2EP 1WF 2WB 1EA (EA can change to WB or WR for skill interuptor or change to EP If can't still alive)
I'm control 2EP 1WF 1WB. other control 1WB 1EA

I don't know how to defeat beliel without defeat beliel miniboss.
use EA Shaptooth Arrow for reduce upper hp limit of beliel and then beliel miniboss born (take a short time from Shaptooth Arrow was shoot), all of party left from beliel (loss aggro). then start to kill one by one of miniboss. this step if your party too strong enough. you can use "Extremity Recovery Array" protect your party to defeat all miniboss by don't loss aggro from beliel.

in my experience belial has 3 skill
1. Front AOE physical atk (light damage)
2. Group physical atk (heavy damage often atk EP/WF)
3. Buff himself

when face on beliel our party (EP/WF/EA) must behind and far away from beliel
1EP use River of Rejuvenation + Whisht Heart Spell Combo for tankerWB(only one EP healing WB)
1EP Extremity Recovery Array for party except tankerWB (tankerWB outside a range of Extremity Recovery Array because beliel "Front AOE skill" area to large if WB in range of Extremity Recovery Array)
1WB use skill forcing enemy to attack and cancel all skill on your cooldown.
1WF use debuff + Golem + Amplify Maim + Foxy Drub(If your're heavy armor WF)

when beliel will use "Group physical atk" he turnback to face on EP+WF

1WB / WR (stand back of beliel in EP Extremity Recovery Array) must aim to interrupt when beliel face on EP . If mistake EP/WF often die.
1EA / normal atk

control only WF + WB by use alt + tab 2Ep use only combo

I think to defeat beliel by 6 control char too hardly.

Sorry for poor English and lag some knowledge

[Smurfin]

hey thanks, that covers a lot but that boss seems like a tough nut to crack, i'll try it later when my chars reached lv 90 and use hh90 armor, will not stand a chance at even 89 now coz of the armor. One more level to go.

[r0ute66]

is it possible to do it now (after mermaid patch) ?
i was tried but failed in hh 1-3 (soul boss)
also failed in hh 2-3 (belial)
no guts to try 3-X