Banned 7 Days

[lightistrue]

They finally got me. Banned for 7 days. I bought from a close friend only and he got permabanned for selling. I got 7 day for buying. Looks like handfarm not safe anymore. I listed gems and ancient, so I hope it is my mistake and they only caught the gold I got from listing gems.

[hackernova]

Originally Posted by lightistrue

They finally got me. Banned for 7 days. I bought from a close friend only and he got permabanned for selling. I got 7 day for buying. Looks like handfarm not safe anymore. I listed gems and ancient, so I hope it is my mistake and they only caught the gold I got from listing gems.

Nope, handfarmed gold is still safe doing trade with gems is a deathtrap. It's already known like years and even u list an ancient item u have to be careful about price set and maximum gold transfer for per day etc.

[lightistrue]

Originally Posted by hackernova

Nope, handfarmed gold is still safe doing trade with gems is a deathtrap. It's already known like years and even u list an ancient item u have to be careful about price set and maximum gold transfer for per day etc.

Yep it was my mistake. We shall see if they catch the ancient accessory RMT. 90% of mine is from ancient 10% or less from gem. Maybe about 60mil gold total over a year.

[lightistrue]

Originally Posted by gamigostar13

got banned too 2nd time, 1st time 1 week this time 1 month.

Did you do ancients only from high roster?

[lightistrue]

-10mil today. They took 15mil which means they took away rmt from the so called "safe" ancient rmt from handfarm high roster seller.

[sheldox]

Probably u got full inspect after the gems or did multiple unsafe trades and your acc got tracked.

[wickedry]

Originally Posted by lightistrue

-10mil today. They took 15mil which means they took away rmt from the so called "safe" ancient rmt from handfarm high roster seller.

from the moment you rmt’d…. how
long until you got hit with the ban?

[hackernova]

Originally Posted by gamigostar13

Thats the risk when u buy from 1 source only huge amounts and he gets caught, all the gold you bought is tracked back to him and they will usually only reverse all the transactions u did from that caught source.
If you buy in example bottet gold from 20 different sources 100k each and only 1 seller gets caught u will have 2 million gold, get 1 week of ban and they remove 100k gold since they are doing it automatically i think and there is no real human sitting behind it and tracking every transaction you did, since it takes too much ressources. But I personally think that will change at some point cause AGS is following threads like this to catch the strats, in the past they found out with mule accounts cause 1 dude had a thread with a clear explanation how u could "safely" rmt and so on.

Yeap, system ban people auto with some base rules on programing but after the bans, they have a section for it people working only for rmt invest and make sure bans applied without a mistake so when they make sure, they saying it's manually reviewed and applied. (this is my theory and experience of selling gold since game release.)they said they have people for rmt investigations tho that part is not theory.

But in other hand they can't ban you for buying handfarmed gold because we are doing trade like normal players selling regular items. We set prices really carefuly, we do ancient items, we limit daily gold transfer etc. They can't say like " u can't sell this item with this price" if they do that they gonna have huge amount of false bans.Also when i buy items after sell gold, i wearing or keeping accessories a while, if they check account they gonna see i buy accessories and actually using them even if accessories is trash they can't say u wearing wrong items maybe my game knowledge is bad :P

And also, u thinking u gonna buy from different sources and they gonna revert gold from only what source is got caught? You still gonna have milions? nope u forgetting u will get banned and this ban gonna extend every time until u got perma banned.

[hackernova]

Originally Posted by gamigostar13

the last part is just an asumption you have, i dont believe that they have the buying and selling history of people for ever. As said before, from my own experience and from others. They will only remove the amount of gold you have bought from that exact source that got caught. If a seller has multiple people farming the gold from them and you buy 1 million from one seller and he has 10 people farming the gold for him and u have to put 10 different items each 100k and one of the buyers is a botted account and gets caught u will only lose the 100k bought that caused the ban, if your ban is automatically done. If there is someone reviewing and they see multiple 100k trades it could be possible that they remove more but only if they can clearly tell that its bought gold.

You still saying the samething, it doesn't matter how much gold u will earn or lost. it's not about the gold revert u still gonna get banned and ban gonna increase each time until u get perma banned, i don't know why u still dodging this important part.

[hackernova]

Originally Posted by gamigostar13

In which world did i say that the ban wont increase? lol where am i denying it? I said that there is a high chance u will not lose ur whole gold if u get banned and u are saying that the ban increases everytime. Where is the sense behind accusing me to dodge that info if that info has nothing to do with what i said?
I said he will get "1 week of ban" if getting caught, i never said that he will always get 1 week of a ban when getting caught.

Because, u talking like they will have millions gold for getting 1 week ban. That's just not true. With your logic your ban can be even worst think about it if u buy gold from 10 different people and what if 7-8 of them is botted and u got caught it will be a disaster.

[lightistrue]

Originally Posted by wickedry

from the moment you rmt’d…. how
long until you got hit with the ban?

1.4mil 3 days before the ban. They caught gold from 1-2 months before the ban. They missed the about 50-70mil from before thaemine release to echidna release ish? (It's really hard to estimate this when you whale hard)

Take this with a grain of salt and know that I'm approximating.

I had 1x 1670 and 5x 1640+ at the time of ban without full adv honing done yet. Had a ton of materials (~10mil gold of orehas and 6 sets of full 10s) so I decided to sell the goods and restart. I'd rather RMT on a fresh account and not get upgraded to a 1month ban by taking 10 mil in the mail to get me back to 0 gold. 1 month ban in lost ark is missing out on too much.

Originally Posted by gamigostar13

Thats the risk when u buy from 1 source only huge amounts and he gets caught, all the gold you bought is tracked back to him and they will usually only reverse all the transactions u did from that caught source.
If you buy in example bottet gold from 20 different sources 100k each and only 1 seller gets caught u will have 2 million gold, get 1 week of ban and they remove 100k gold since they are doing it automatically i think and there is no real human sitting behind it and tracking every transaction you did, since it takes too much ressources. But I personally think that will change at some point cause AGS is following threads like this to catch the strats, in the past they found out with mule accounts cause 1 dude had a thread with a clear explanation how u could "safely" rmt and so on.

Yeah the gold was funneled to one high-roster account from many different sources. That account sent it to my main. I used an unsafe method. Selling high level gems. Essentially the gold seller buy the gem, and later on trade it back to the main. Gem is sold for close to market rate. I'm quite certain this is what got me caught. Sticking to ancient only from now.

[palakolaxe]

@ , what level is your offense for RMT ?

[itachi_9]

Originally Posted by lightistrue

1.4mil 3 days before the ban. They caught gold from 1-2 months before the ban. They missed the about 50-70mil from before thaemine release to echidna release ish? (It's really hard to estimate this when you whale hard)

Take this with a grain of salt and know that I'm approximating.

I had 1x 1670 and 5x 1640+ at the time of ban without full adv honing done yet. Had a ton of materials (~10mil gold of orehas and 6 sets of full 10s) so I decided to sell the goods and restart. I'd rather RMT on a fresh account and not get upgraded to a 1month ban by taking 10 mil in the mail to get me back to 0 gold. 1 month ban in lost ark is missing out on too much.




Yeah the gold was funneled to one high-roster account from many different sources. That account sent it to my main. I used an unsafe method. Selling high level gems. Essentially the gold seller buy the gem, and later on trade it back to the main. Gem is sold for close to market rate. I'm quite certain this is what got me caught. Sticking to ancient only from now.

****. I was also banned recently for 7Days after buying 1.4M. The thing is the seller advertised it as handfarmed gold, so idk what went wrong.

I was gonna use this lvl 10 gem method you did but ask seller to mail gems instead of trade.

I bought 11pcs lvl 10 gems from someone quitting and he sent everything via mail and I had no issues.

[SYCN24]

Lightistrue you mind saying who you bought the gold from

[lightistrue]

Yeah just dont sell gems for gold and then have those gems traded back to you. They catch that. handmade or not. I buy from high roster players only 200+, they got perm banned.