9net9 and tQ.

[billydelong]

i think this guy is on crack

[knitz]

This this thread dies, I want my post to be the last one..

Oh, it already is

[alukard105]

Nope my post is last. Mwuhaha.

Knitz, I don't get your general conclusion as well as the original poster and i suspect that you're less on crack than the other. I'm still trying to decipher if you're being sarcastic and where you think TQ is making profit the most, the botters or the bulkers. But i can agree on the point that bulkers are the main reason for TQ to continue making money.

However, TQ and 9net9 being both chinese and saying they're one and same is a fallacy.


Regarding fair play
1) TQ runs a legitimate company.
2) Most people want to play fair (except for the cheaters)

Buying DBs
1) TQ makes profit the more you play.
2) Botters dont care playing fair. Morals have no appeal
or makes no sense to a botter.
3) Botters' logic is why should i play fair and why should i bulk when i can just bot.
4) Non-botters are more likely to bulk and playing fair.
5) Non-botters wants to be "legit" and are moralists.
6) According to you, botters will be around the longest. They're also the same normal people that you said TQ dont care about because they just bot and not bulk. Tq dont care about the measly profit from botting by 9net9.

In summary. Botters will be around longest, dont bulk, and dont play legit and dont care. They can have several archers making tons of water reborns and turn them into a pack of Dbs a day putting TQ OUT OF BUSINESS. TQ doesnt make money if everyone bots and get their gears from botting instead of bulking. Therefore TQ is not 9net9 and anyone that thinks it is needs to lay off the mushrooms and the grass. Seriously.

Conclusion: Most people are legit. Companys make money from the ones that are legit. Botting ruins profits because it speeds up the destruction of the server. It speeds up the economy. It speeds up the aging process and maturity of everything. Everyone quits because no one wants to be around a dying server. No bulkers is b/c too many botters. No noobs means the server will die a slow death unless something changes...like stopping bots and that means preventing 9net9. TQ is therefore anything but 9net9.

Ragnorak private server gms that supports botting is a redherring. If that rumor is true then its because the private server is not legit. They could care less. And AnimaRO relys on donations for gears. It has nothing to do with bulking. So of course they'd support botting (if that is true that AnimaRO supports botting.)

[on22s]

here is my thoughts on it about the bad english find some azn writeing and use bablefish or something similar and bam you can talk just like em.

i wouldn't think TQ and 9net9 would be the same, but maybe side my side for pure profit. a simple IP check could find this out like compair 9net9 IP's with TQ's and TQ's hosting comptany. anyways just my thoughts.

[Lotherein]

tq and 9net9 are the same, each work together to gain profit one way or another. now im not saying they arent the same company, im just saying they both act the same as all businesses do. you can make many theories on it but can you prove them is the real problem.

[Matt.dk]

In China, it is against the law to specifically make an automation(bot) program for any online video game, unless you have been granted rights to do so by the video game publisher.

This means that if SV is not run by TQ, it is illegal.

BJX was illegal. Now the old programmer of it is in jail, in China.

So, why isin't SV gone? Why isint the SV team in china? Some say its because the website for SV is not hosted in china but that does not explain it as all the work is done in china.

The conclusion is that either TQ owns and operates SV, or TQ granted an offical license to 9net9 to produce SV.

SV wouldn't be running if it didn't have the permission of NetDragon. Chinese law is pretty tough.

[XtremeX-CO]

Funny how easy it is to get all the values for CO. CO never changes much, except some memory values, which can be easily fixed, VERY easy fixed, with the source code.
You still wonder why it keeps getting released?

[spallapiden]

The most likely scenario is that one of the programmers who works with the Conquer code has written this to supplement his income.

Most of these games that come out of china are mass produced, the programmers get payed peanuts and the game gets licensed to others to run and make a profit from, which is also why patches are sporadic and customer service is non existent.

Ever wonder why Co china has features not in Co english, or why Co spanish is missing things in both? The companies who run the latter 2 have not purchased all the upgrades from the company that develops the Co code.

[Horified]

There is totally no need to bump a 6 months old thread just to say your opinion

[tonycool100]

lmao u r just a fool... of coz they are not.... be quiet if u don't know. stop spamming like u r a pro.

+ there is no punishment for using bot in China... what r u talking about... stop using the ALL the resources from internet... they are fake... the government in China never enforce to punish or have a issue on "illegal" bot program..

[Horified]

Double post FTL,edit FTW =)

[spallapiden]

Originally Posted by Horified

There is totally no need to bump a 6 months old thread just to say your opinion

Ok then, just for you ********, do you need me to make it any more clear, i have had so many chats with Zhao about these very things and i can almost say for sure that this is the case.

As for it being a 6 month old thread, i was reading another thread and followed a link to here and posted something that MORE resembled the truth of the matter rather than the speculation that has been offered before hand.

The reason why i know about the gaming industry is because i WORK in it, i'm a coder at a fairly large game house. I don't come by here very often, mostly because of PISSANTS like you, who leach there ***** off and offer nothing back decides there incessant TROLLING.

So come see me when you get some skills, till then, as the br's would say, go **** your mather.

[sonybaci]

i loved the bjx bot.... he gave me a ton of mets and db's....one day my char got banned

*sniff* *sniff*

[spallapiden]

Originally Posted by sonybaci

i loved the bjx bot.... he gave me a ton of mets and db's....one day my char got banned

*sniff* *sniff*

I used Sv for about 3 months, but soon wrote my own bot, the most bots i could run with Sv was 11 and with my own bot i could run 30 clients before i suffered any performance downgrade.

[marhazk2]

Originally Posted by Matt.dk

In China, it is against the law to specifically make an automation(bot) program for any online video game, unless you have been granted rights to do so by the video game publisher.

This means that if SV is not run by TQ, it is illegal.

BJX was illegal. Now the old programmer of it is in jail, in China.

So, why isin't SV gone? Why isint the SV team in china? Some say its because the website for SV is not hosted in china but that does not explain it as all the work is done in china.

The conclusion is that either TQ owns and operates SV, or TQ granted an offical license to 9net9 to produce SV.

SV wouldn't be running if it didn't have the permission of NetDragon. Chinese law is pretty tough.

hey hey, if that story was a real, i would like to agreed.. Maybe after BJX programmer was jailed, TQ and that programmer make an agreement. Either,

1) Free from jail, then BJX programmer must corporate with TQ and name it SV. OR?
2) Based on BJX sources, TQ recoded the sources, and create SV.. who knows...

Since this thread existed, there's a lots are playing in my mind about SV, BJX and TQ. rofl. But if the stories is false, i would like to take my words back.. srry to says. Just giving my opinions about the "secrets".