pro4never - nobody gonna talk about it?

[Deathmist]

Rofl it's so funny reading these comments you guys actually have 0 ******* clue what you're talking about, and what his plans were.

[jokerboy123]

Originally Posted by Deathmist

Rofl it's so funny reading these comments you guys actually have 0 ******* clue what you're talking about, and what his plans were.

Actually none knows his plans, neither do you.
“You guys have zero clue”. It’s true I don’t know much about the situation but I’m quite sure others have knowledge.

[Valotap]

Originally Posted by Deathmist

Rofl it's so funny reading these comments you guys actually have 0 ******* clue what you're talking about, and what his plans were.

I think nobody exept his boyfriend knew his plans.
If you did knew his hidden agenda upfront you are a piece of ****.

[Korvacs]

What a rollercoaster this thread has been.

[Isruli]

Rofl, i am not surprised at all for myself.

That guy always has been a ******.

At first he act like a cool guy then become evil when it comes to money.

I've been Moderator on his Apex server, first US one then EU.

I used to play also in his EU server and dominated the game with my team, but, i was playing for free.

Another guy was a big bulker and paying again and again to gain things, stuff and all, he would trade his VIP token to money in game and else.

But my team were farming way too much for him and so, we were ahead.

At one time, the guy bulking cryed at Pro4Never and just one week after this i've got banned. Not on my mod Account no, just on my player char .

Kinda happy to see he showed his true face to all the conquer community.

[TheFadedOne]

i heard about this a while ago, it was shocking and really sad.

[EliteMagus]

It's been a few years. I'll treat this first message as an introduction to those that weren't hip on who "Argaman" is/was. I rode with chris/p4n during the time of Apex. As often I was playing the role of advisor and development management. Chris and I talked DAILY for hours - even was rather hip with the boyfriend though he came later in the game so to speak so I was still a little weird with the guy.
After getting burnt out on Apex - for payment I had him set up Raw Co. After the boyfriend caused drama with that (claiming his members were leaving apex for Raw) they shut me down via willful lack of service. It's okay - my boy chris wouldnt do this it's just his "lady" I told myself.
Chris and I stopped talking entirely after this point - this is when he began work on the heroes project. (I don't have the insider information i wish i could bring to the table)
Being that I rolled with him for so long - (and tried many times to patch bridges between members here and himself) I feel honest by saying "chris was hacked". It was the RUMOR I started then - and the rumor I stand by today.
WHY? - I promise you apex was doing VERY WELL. We had a healthy income that helped chris and his lady buy a new home, it was steady and reliable.
Chris was a lot of things but not directly stupid - we knew what we had on our hands and all of my development plans that i wrote up for him relied upon the income of Apex.
I felt then as I do now - he got sucked into an idea he didnt know enough about - his security was no where near as 360 as he thought and the whole project/page/wallet got straight taken - leaving him with the hate of the community to deal with.
Was he a perfect person? **** no. We had our issues. But you that know of me (like, truely) know I have always tried to get the most at-war developers here together to do big tings - for as long as you can look at my post history - since TQ fired me and banned me in like 2006?

[Eroniku]

**** crazy!

[marcbacor6666]

i did not know about this until now, by the way i thought spirited is pro4never

[EliteMagus]

Originally Posted by marcbacor6666

i did not know about this until now, by the way i thought spirited is pro4never

Oh wow good *** no. Sometimes I wish me and spirited were as tight as I had gotten with chris =(. (I kid bud if you end up lurking epvp)

[mohammedqq1]

Not only this person, I think there are many more like this but haven't had a chance yet. Save your money. This game wasted a lot of time and money.

[tehpwnerer69]

Originally Posted by EliteMagus

It's been a few years. I'll treat this first message as an introduction to those that weren't hip on who "Argaman" is/was. I rode with chris/p4n during the time of Apex. As often I was playing the role of advisor and development management. Chris and I talked DAILY for hours - even was rather hip with the boyfriend though he came later in the game so to speak so I was still a little weird with the guy.
After getting burnt out on Apex - for payment I had him set up Raw Co. After the boyfriend caused drama with that (claiming his members were leaving apex for Raw) they shut me down via willful lack of service. It's okay - my boy chris wouldnt do this it's just his "lady" I told myself.
Chris and I stopped talking entirely after this point - this is when he began work on the heroes project. (I don't have the insider information i wish i could bring to the table)
Being that I rolled with him for so long - (and tried many times to patch bridges between members here and himself) I feel honest by saying "chris was hacked". It was the RUMOR I started then - and the rumor I stand by today.
WHY? - I promise you apex was doing VERY WELL. We had a healthy income that helped chris and his lady buy a new home, it was steady and reliable.
Chris was a lot of things but not directly stupid - we knew what we had on our hands and all of my development plans that i wrote up for him relied upon the income of Apex.
I felt then as I do now - he got sucked into an idea he didnt know enough about - his security was no where near as 360 as he thought and the whole project/page/wallet got straight taken - leaving him with the hate of the community to deal with.
Was he a perfect person? Fuck no. We had our issues. But you that know of me (like, truely) know I have always tried to get the most at-war developers here together to do big tings - for as long as you can look at my post history - since TQ fired me and banned me in like 2006?

I don't buy this excuse.

Chris knew what he was doing and he can claim he was the one who got screwed over but lets face it, he brought this upon himself.

He wanted to integrate a custom crypto into his game and didn't take security that seriously into consideration?

I don't know who you are or why you are covering for him but me (and probably many others) do not accept this excuse.

[krito777]

Pro4Never just got so much money insteed that he just continue and finish that project.
He run away with the money?
I just can't believe that, is that not cringe? haha

His whole life will be persecuted between Maldives and Jail.
Freedom is more worth than everything, he will note that when he get caught.

And if not, than he just outsmarted the law brilliant, which will cause new securtiy laws in future for
that specific biz, just that no1 else can repeat this.

[Huseby]

I got bored, and decided to come and have a look how this game was doing.

Certainly did not expect to see this after this many years.

[turk55]

Originally Posted by Huseby

I got bored, and decided to come and have a look how this game was doing.

Certainly did not expect to see this after this many years.

You didn't really miss much, scene is basically even more dead than it was before. Most people are gone...

Been a while, how have you been holding up?